There are no set guidelines to illegal practices in India. With widespread illegal practitioners (qualified and unqualified), ethical doctors are forced to do funny things to survive. What has the government done to uplift the quality of life of doctors? nothing. After working hard for atleast 5-10 years to become a doctor the government pays maximum of 20,000 INR, which has become peanuts in India due to soaring software market.
What about the legal frame work? no strict laws or punishments enforced to curb such activities. Is the legal system fair for the rich and the poor? unfortunately not. A politician murdering thousands for political gain is still the leader- in that light what will not the common man do.
Unless and until the legal system is equally distributed and enforced nothing in India is going to change.
I ideal punishment for such crimes committed within such noble profession should be awarded the highest possible punishment- ie. decapitation; so that no one ever repeats.
There is no justification for such indecent, inhuman acts.
There is a very high demand for organs. If Dr Amit does not supply, someone else will.
This demand will only increase. If a poor person is willing to give one kidney for rs 1 lakh, whats the harm? Poor man gets the money he needs and the dying rich person gets the kidney. Everyone is home happy, noone is harmed.
RE:Its not his fault, demand/supply
by arbitary on Feb 10, 2008 01:15 AM Permalink
Yeah, right. Poor laborers were misled into believing that they were being hired for some work, drugged, had their kidney removed, were thrown out on the street with threats for keeping quiet and you say its OK?
The whole thing was NOT voluntary. There might be many poor people who are selling their kidneys for money. But the people that Amit tricked had their kidney stolen by him.
RE:Its not his fault, demand/supply
by Sam on Feb 10, 2008 01:22 AM Permalink
Dr Amit has been doing this for years, atleast for the last 10 years. If he was misleading people, he would have been caught long time back.
Also, do not beleive the Indian media, they write anything as long as they get their price.
I am not sure how far its true, but I heard that Dawood got the doctor arrested as Dr Amit refused to give him the 1 crore extirtion money. All what you read in the media is fabricated.
RE:RE:Its not his fault, demand/supply
by pranam on Feb 10, 2008 04:58 AM Permalink
Did Dr Amit mislead them Do you believe the story that they were mislead.Did any Press guy interview the recipients?
He will join the list of great and affluent people who got away from law through their money power. Pandhar, Sanjay, Salman, Nanda, Manu Sharma, etc etc and now Dr Kumar Jai Hind
he has just givn kidney to required person what govt do for those who neeed kidney nothing he helped then he should be awarded by govt govt is acting like joker
RE:no need to call dr horror
by Practicalman on Feb 10, 2008 01:13 AM Permalink
Mr Ankit, I feel pity on uyou. May be you are the beneficiar from the DR. Organ Donation is a noble thing, but not the Organ Stealing. And Mr. Dr. Horror was stealing to sell them off in black market, not to needy poor patients. So he is a blackmarketer, not a Robin hood kind. He has created a bad name to the Profession of Medicinal Practice, which is being considered more nobler than any other profession. He should hv been hanged to death, cause of many innocent murderings and sufferings ( the one Kidneyed patients ). Everyone should condemned this and should ask the justice to culminate such kind of culprits. Truly he is a Horror, rather call him Terror...as people now think twice b4 going to any doctor.
RE:no need to call dr horror
by pranam on Feb 10, 2008 05:02 AM Permalink
Removal of one kidney if the other one is normal does not cause any physical,medical suffering
RE:no need to call dr horror
by pepsi on Feb 10, 2008 08:12 AM Permalink
guys who think Dr Amit hasn't done anything wrong...
If so let him make it public. He is doing it as his profession. He has done to hundreds... Let him advertise. Let everyone in his locality know that he is a kidney supplier or kideney vendor if you people think this is absolutely legal...
Y the heck do u think CBI, Indian polica, Interpol, Nepalese officials were behind him as they don't have any other person in their serach list..
For every such activity there are some legal procedure... Someone needs kidney, needs blood someother donates for the one in need. This is done offcially and procedurally...
He is ntohing different from a manpower agency or a (kidney) consulting company... let the government and court decide if this way is legal so that others would come to know before carrying out such operations
RE:no need to call dr horror
by samudra blr on Feb 10, 2008 12:42 AM Permalink
I do agree with you Ankit. There is logic in your thought. We should also see the other side of the story. Governement and Law did not understand the demand for kidneys in the country. If the kidney donations were legalized then today we could have not faced any illegal trading.
when they handover dr to India they didnt expected about the future case handling in court, He willg et bail soon and give money to politians, Instead Nepal police could take money and made him free. Anyw ay he will escape.
You should actually call him Dr.Robinhood instead of Dr.Horror!
He robbed only one kidnet from those rich with two kidneys, where as one is sufficient. And saved the lives of about 360 people who otherwise would have died!
He is a sort of Medical equivalent of Robinhood!
How can people be stinkingly rich with two kidneys? where as only one is sufficient?
There are millions dying because they dont have even one kidney. How can some have two kidneys?
Dr.Robinhood thought of bringing justice and he did.
In the court of a different perpective, he would be awarded Bharat Ratna!
RE:Dr. Robinhood!
by samudra blr on Feb 10, 2008 12:21 AM Permalink
Might be he has done kidney trading. What right has the media to call him Dr Horror. Look at the positive part of the story. There were many lives saved by this kidney transplants. Organ trade should be legalized and streamlined. People should come forward to donate organs for the people in need. Even though many people want to donate kidneys for exchange of money our government has no proper law for it. If a donor and receiver are willing for whatever monetory or health benefits each one of them gets why should the government and legal system interfere?
RE:RE:Dr. Robinhood!
by r s on Feb 10, 2008 12:29 AM Permalink
dude...you cant save one life at the cost of another :) and not to mention...that certain pains are best to be felt to understand it :)
How much you want for your kidney? Will you be willing to donate one today? How about a reciprocation of Rs. 50,000? Forget a kidney, will you even donate your little pinky finger? Simply, tell us how would you feel if someone removes your pinky finger without telling you?
Robinhood stole money, not body organs. And even Robinhood-ness is not legal my friend. No one has a right to dictate who gets what and who shoulld not have what - except for the legal system and the law.
RE:Dr. Robinhood!
by samudra blr on Feb 10, 2008 12:38 AM Permalink
I HAVE NO FAITH IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM MR SAMEER BHAGAWAT. SO MANY HUSBANDS ARE FACING FALSE CASES FILED BY THEIR WIVES IN OUR COUNTRY. AND YOU STILL TRUST IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM?
RE:Dr. Robinhood!
by Sameer Bhagwat on Feb 10, 2008 12:45 AM Permalink
To be honest, India's legal system is not very promising, nor very symmetrical. It does have strange laws, many times favoring one class or caste or religion over another. And I can feel your dislike and frustration regarding the legal system.
But, by breaking the system, or not obiding the laws what are we doing? Is that a form of protest? No, I think it simply screws up whatever little that we have as a "system", and only creates more chaos and anarchy. See, the divorce laws that you are taking about might be a painful thing in your opinion, but how can we compare black-market organ trading (which can cause fatal impacts), and unjust divorce laws? Yeah, I agree, sometimes the wives have taken advantages of their husbands because of our female-centric laws, but how does that make it "okay" to remove someone's kidneys?
Might be he has done kidney trading. What right has the media to call him Dr Horror. Look at the positive part of the story. There were many lives saved by this kidney transplants. Organ trade should be legalized and streamlined. People should come forward to donate organs for the people in need.
RE:Stop calling such names as Dr Horror
by ajith v on Feb 10, 2008 12:28 AM Permalink
I feel what sameer telling is correct, also these gangrecruited as laboueresa nd giving foods to create severe stomach pain and then taken them to hospitals and after diagonosis results announced that need surgery and taking out the kidneys, but as per indian law he will get bail very sool, if he was in Nepal he will be in jail atleast for 5yrs. Now politicains will tkae money and hep him, think Afsal didnt get much punishment how cna w eexpect for this case??
RE:Stop calling such names as Dr Horror
by Sameer Bhagwat on Feb 10, 2008 12:22 AM Permalink
Samudra blr,
Do you know the whole story, or read the head lines and thought of putting a message? This is not simply a transplant, or a trade. This is a trade where the patient did NOT know that his/her kidney was removed (under a false diagnosis, of course) and sold to someone in a black-market. Think of it this way - you go to a doc with a complaint of stomach pain. The doctor (falsely) tells you that you have a kidney failure and needs to be removed, when all you had was a mild gastronomic problem. Then he opens you up, removes your kidney, lets you live on one kidney, and sells your kidney to someone (illegaly) at a very high price - as much as Rs. 5 to 7 lacs. How would you feel if you found out? Even worse, how would you feel if your health deteriorates? And finally, how would your wife and kids would feel if you die?
The profession of a doctor is highly respected - and a doc is the closest thing to God that humans have. If a doctor betrays his profession and his oath to make money what do you call him, but Dr. Horror??
RE:Stop calling such names as Dr Horror
by Test on Feb 10, 2008 12:27 AM Permalink
Well said sameer. And other issue is how much %age the people are getting.. The sell for 10 to 20 lakhs and they give 30,000 or 40,000 Rs to the people who donated it. It is shame. If it made legal the donor should receive up to 90% amount.
RE:Stop calling such names as Dr Horror
by samudra blr on Feb 10, 2008 12:34 AM Permalink
SO STREAMLINE AND LEGALIZE THE DONATION. LET THE ORGAN DONATION BECOME LEGAL. LET THE ORGAN DONAR GET MAXIMUM MONEY. LET THE ORGAN DONORS GET THE KNOWLEDGE OF THEN VALUE OF THEIR ORGANS. WHY DONT WE HAVE SUCH LAWS?
GOVERNMENT HAS CREATED SO MANY LAWS FOR THE BENEFIT OF WOMEN , WHO INTURN ARE MISUSING THE LAWS AND DIVORCING THEIR HUSBANDS. WHY DONT WE HAVE A LAW FAVORING THE ORGAN DONORS?
