One can easily make out the Paki hand in this- they've had great relationship with the USA (winners) for past several decades, whereas India was seen hobnobbing with erstwhile USSR (losers) a classic example of lack of segacity by the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty. Its now that that the pakis are worried abt close Indo-US ties that they've managed to persuade their "friends" in US congress to throw the spanner in the works.
RE:PAKIS AT WORK
by sony kalloor on Aug 08, 2008 10:21 AM Permalink
No Indian Politicans of CPM and BJP also Joined Pakis ,By delaying the things by one year
RE:PAKIS AT WORK
by Rakesh Sharma on Aug 08, 2008 11:27 AM Permalink
congis are the biggest anti nationals... supporters of terrorists and jihadis.. they are more pakis than the pakis....
RE:Have you heard, praising PM led to Akal Takht top priest's removal? Paid writers, American Cow Dung! when you praise you will be removed from this message board. When sychophants praise, they will be removed from the party.
by sony kalloor on Aug 08, 2008 10:34 AM Permalink
Did you participate in the CPM driven anti Computarisation Drive !!! in the 80's
RE:Have you heard, praising PM led to Akal Takht top priest's removal? Paid writers, American Cow Dung! when you praise you will be removed from this message board. When sychophants praise, they will be removed from the party.
by Sahadevan KK on Aug 08, 2008 10:41 AM Permalink
I am interested to look why you just come out from this NUCLEAR DRIVE.
- Anil Kakodkar is not a politician. He does not understand the finer nuances of politics and International relations.
To ask for "clean and unconditional waiver" publicly, in such a sensitive geo-political setup is just being naive.
At this moment, we do not a need a nuclear scientist to lead and push our agenda through. He may be a good nuclear scientist / administrator, but does not have panache of diplomat.
It's time for diplomats and lobbyist to take charge.
Anil Kakodkar has been a back-room boy. And let him be.
To get "clean and unconditional waiver" should be our aim. USA and Indian diplomats are working over time for that.
But to demand "clean and unconditional waiver" publicly is like asking for a "virgin bride" through newspaper advertisements.
RE:This is a political deal. Should be dealt politically.
by murli nair on Aug 08, 2008 01:53 PM Permalink
yeah right, the honest scientist should be packed off and double dealing bureaucrats should step in. If if wasnt for Kakodkar, that deal would be just another name for NPT.
Kakodkar needs a lesson about how to talk diplomatically. How can a top diplomat on foreign affairs make such loose talk and jeopardize the sensitive matter?
RE:Kakodkar needs to learn talk sensible
by prabhat mohanty on Aug 08, 2008 10:17 AM Permalink
- He just got carried away after having got a nod from IAEA.
It's like a cricket player offers an easy catch after hitting the first six in his career.
RE:Nuclear Deal
by sony kalloor on Aug 08, 2008 10:23 AM Permalink
You can have clarity only after US congress and NSG review on this and the kind of votings thaey do on this subject. till then it wuld be guess work
Indians grown up in a concted culture of democracy tempered by dynasty and corruption cannot comprehend the US democracy where checks and balances work in true sense, so the their President does not become too powerful. Senate and the House are both equally powerful to control the Administration. In India the media also acts as chamcha (lackey) for the Govt. Hence all expected that once Bush wants a brownie point the Senators and the reps will fall in line. Senators and House reps are committed to their objectives. They do not have poiliticians like Laloo, Mulayam, Paswan etc.,who only have a single point agenda to make money.
RE:Indians fail to understand the democracy in the US
by Umesh Sharma on Aug 08, 2008 11:02 AM Permalink
v hv to now face what is hidden in 123 agreement, already india has been told to delete unconditional, now democrats want delay cause it is coming under the hyde act, so people all the blah blah of anand sharma/jayanti/pranab even the pm is now hogwash, we know for sure that in usa it is going to be very difficult to push it thru, it is not like bharat mahan where mps are never available in parliament when imp bills are passed not even 1/ 3rd of members are present. in usa they will make it very difficult for the green signal to this agreement. left and bjp not really wrong in asking for clarifications reg applicability of hyde act to 123 agreement. wait and watch this drama. there are more surprises in store, even though india may spend millions of dollars in pro /lobby for the agreement in capitol hill.
RE:Indians fail to understand the democracy in the US
by menon viswanathan on Aug 08, 2008 10:23 AM Permalink
THE US HAVE SELFISH NATIONAL INTERESTS & FOR US ONLY SELFISH CORRUPTION. PKV
RE:Indians fail to understand the democracy in the US
by sony kalloor on Aug 08, 2008 10:26 AM Permalink
For functioning of a good democracy it also requires a good opposition. All the BJP could do was to make noise in the parliment and they did every thing from drama to sensation but to discuss any thing on the merit or demerit of the deal
RE:Indians fail to understand the democracy in the US
by S R Ganguli on Aug 08, 2008 11:18 AM Permalink
Unfortunately the BJP did not have speakers like Arun Shourie who wrote a long article in about 2 years back in the Indian Express as to the dark sides of the Deal. There was also not Arun Jaitley. Therefore we lost a good debate.
RE:Indians fail to understand the democracy in the US
by prabhat mohanty on Aug 08, 2008 11:28 AM Permalink
- For some reasons, good talents have no place in the political parties.
The old haggard leaders are trivialising each and every issue and bringing down to the street level.
These stupid leaders don't want to play on facts and reasonings. They want to emotionalise each and every issue.
RE:Indians fail to understand the democracy in the US
by All Right on Aug 08, 2008 09:52 AM Permalink
True. But in an election year, neither the Republicans or Democrats want to anatagonize the influential Indian US population, who also significantly emerged as fundraisers to both parties.
So timing of operationalizing the deal was superb.
RE:Indians fail to understand the democracy in the US
by Sahadevan KK on Aug 08, 2008 10:19 AM Permalink
Have you heard, praising PM led to Akal Takht top priest's removal? Paid writers, American Cow Dung! when you praise you will be removed from this message board. When sychophants praise, they will be removed from the party.
RE:Harkishan Singh Surjeet will sleep at Nigambodh Khat, where poor people sleeps; He will live in our minds for long long years. Traitor Singh will live in the US and eat Bush's waste material. CONGRESS, STUDY LESSON. LOOK BEYOND A MILE.
by Gautam Sinha on Aug 08, 2008 09:53 AM Permalink
Comrade HKS is revered by most Indians. But your sense is as awry as usual. How can you compare him with failed politican PM MMS? And what makes you think that MMS will live and die in US? He is also an Indian and will live here just as much. After all if the traitor Karat can stay here so can MMS
RE:Harkishan Singh Surjeet will sleep at Nigambodh Khat, where poor people sleeps; He will live in our minds for long long years. Traitor Singh will live in the US and eat Bush's waste material. CONGRESS, STUDY LESSON. LOOK BEYOND A MILE.
by Pankaj Ramani on Aug 08, 2008 09:55 AM Permalink
Why tall claim sadashivan KK , ur karat has declaired to support congress in next government formation ...what a hyppocratic leaders u have ...shame on u !
RE:Harkishan Singh Surjeet will sleep at Nigambodh Khat, where poor people sleeps; He will live in our minds for long long years. Traitor Singh will live in the US and eat Bush's waste material. CONGRESS, STUDY LESSON. LOOK BEYOND A MILE.
by Aviram Vijh on Aug 08, 2008 10:08 AM Permalink
Who said MMS is a failed politician...he has overcome every hurdle that has come his way...he may not be as charismatic as Indira Gandhi or Rajiv Gandhi...but has done reasonably we..
RE:RE:RE:Harkishan Singh Surjeet will sleep at Nigambodh Khat, where poor people sleeps; He will live in our minds for long long years. Traitor Singh will live in the US and eat Bush's waste material. CONGRESS, STUDY LESSON. LOOK BEYOND A MILE.
by Aviram Vijh on Aug 08, 2008 10:08 AM Permalink
reasonably well *
RE:Harkishan Singh Surjeet will sleep at Nigambodh Khat, where poor people sleeps; He will live in our minds for long long years. Traitor Singh will live in the US and eat Bush's waste material. CONGRESS, STUDY LESSON. LOOK BEYOND A MILE.
by Sam on Aug 08, 2008 03:06 PM Permalink
HKS Surjeet will never sleep because he has harmed India immensely. MMS, with all his flaws, has done good to our country by signing the nuke deal. Ofcourse, the enemies of our country e.g. CPM will not be happy with the deal as it hurts China's interests.
