RE:Hindus
by Loan Shark on Aug 04, 2008 06:33 PM Permalink
abbe moorakh, this is not about killing female foetus. the couple want abortion because of a pre natal heart condition.
I think that the woman should have the right to choose, in this case.
RE:Hindus
by Secular India on Aug 04, 2008 06:37 PM Permalink
it is likely it is a female child. also even parents have no right to take the lives of children - born or unborn.
RE:Hindus
by Loan Shark on Aug 04, 2008 06:49 PM Permalink
likely? so, there is speculation on yr part. right? you don't know for sure that this is a female child. LOL
agree that parents have no right to terminate life of an unborn child, but here is a medical condition that could put the child in a lifetime of misery.
RE:Hindus
by eskinol on Aug 04, 2008 06:37 PM Permalink
Fine. Stop using condoms, contraceptive pills and copper-T's. Why should the poor future babies that could come from your sperm be deprived? Also, please ensure that your wife has at least 20 babies, otherwise all the potential babies will have their human rights violated
RE:RE:Hindus
by Secular India on Aug 04, 2008 06:38 PM Permalink
conception prevents creation of life - which is OK. but once a life is formed - do you think anyone has the right to reverse the process ? banning abortion will make people careful.
RE:Hindus
by eskinol on Aug 04, 2008 06:48 PM Permalink
Oh come on. The argument sa sa made was about the rights of a potential baby. Sperms and eggs potentially combine to form babies too.
RE:Hindus
by Secular India on Aug 04, 2008 06:55 PM Permalink
Sperms and eggs form every day. It is a human decision to combine them and make a life. Once life gets formed - their rights on it goes away. Unless you are in some barbaric society which sanctions honour killings of even grown ups.
RE:Hindus
by Loan Shark on Aug 04, 2008 07:03 PM Permalink
an egg is formed once every month, not every day - just thought that you needed a dose of reality.
RE:Hindus
by eskinol on Aug 04, 2008 06:59 PM Permalink
Yes, because killing a cell - a cockroach has a hundred thousand *brain* cells by the way - is exactly the same as honour killings of women. Your love and respect for half of the human race really shines through here /sarcasm
May god bless all. I dont know that Hon judge has given the right decision or not. We have supreme court above hoght court. We will pray to god for healthy child. One single man (Hon judge) who is bounded by the laws & legalities may have taken a right decision. One should not get the abortion if it is not good for mother. I paray to god that every thing will be alright.
the only way left is that one should think positively & remember Doctor is not GOD we must welcome the child on this beautiful earth. then rest is in the hands of GOD
RE:Bombay HC refuses abortion of 26-week foetus
by Rotofly Engineers on Aug 04, 2008 06:35 PM Permalink
dont write irresponsibly, what can god do if parents have to take care of a child who may never be normal... i have a living example of my best friend who's kid is 5 but has so many multiple problems & has had 6 major operations.... tell me what is their life now?
RE:Bombay HC refuses abortion of 26-week foetus
by eskinol on Aug 04, 2008 06:38 PM Permalink
You're right. God gave this foetus a heart condition. If it has birth defects, a doctor's pacemaker might save it. God is definitely not a doctor here :)
RE:Something fishy
by B Basu on Aug 04, 2008 06:36 PM Permalink
What if they went 2 any of the innumerable clinics for MTP? How would the court have known it?
By doing this, they are ensuring that the child and parents suffer for the rest of their lives. This will force people to go in for illegal abortions thereby increasing the death rate in pregnant woman.
RE:Sad Day
by Ramanath Babu on Aug 04, 2008 06:42 PM Permalink
Once again read the Judge's statement. Judges are not frameers of rules and laws. they can only interpret and protect rules and laws that are already in force. they cannot make any laws nor they can amend it. Only the legislatures have that authority.
Many of the letters here prove beyond doubt that people write whatever they want even if they are absolutely ignorant on that particular subject.
Agreed, humans are animals too! To Procreate and Preserve are the foremost of the self interests. But that we have the brains, use it - self preservation has to work first in self interest before it becomes a common good for the society. Laws that do not recognise that fundamental principle are archaic and hypocritical. And the judiciary that shirk to exercise its powers over such administrative conveniences have lost their right to judge. We live in real world and the have to be responsible in our right to procreate - while I denounce feoticide for any and all other reasons, the right to terminate pregnancy at any stage is as absolute as the right to parenting. The society does not underwrite any costs - physical, emotional or pure mercenary. In India there is no security for a lot of aspects of social existence. There is a lot of interference by the society for unnecessary rituals without taking any responsibility for it. I admit this applies first to the individual and then to the collective body. Yet unless the collective society first takes the right call (like here genuinely that the parents can terminate) the individual can never respect the society or its rules. If you believe that here they could not have terminated discretely and have yet opted to come to the collective social forum, then you are the biggest irresponsible person in the society and that goes for all of us collectively as impotent nincompoops.
there are thousand of illegal abortions doing by dr. they can also use their services. I am not able to understand why the couple approached to court, although they are lucky they got hearing else they have to wait for another 20 yrs.
RE:why approcahed to HC
by adn on Aug 04, 2008 06:18 PM Permalink
They would have been law abiding citizens of this country. After this judgement, they would no more adhere to the stupid back dated laws of this country.
RE:why approcahed to HC
by B Basu on Aug 04, 2008 06:37 PM Permalink
Any length of time as per their choice. It is their baby; they shud have their own choice to have it or not.
RE:why approcahed to HC
by eskinol on Aug 04, 2008 06:40 PM Permalink
Of course it is always difficult to draw bright lines in the sand between fetus and baby or between child and adolescent or between a young man and a middle aged man. Do you therefore think these concepts are meaningless? Will you also say with a straight face that you're still a child because there was no one day when you suddenly grew up?
RE:child birth
by sanjay kumar on Aug 04, 2008 06:24 PM Permalink
there intention in not to murder their child, it just to save him from pain and trouble in future who has not yet come in this world.
I am with the parents, if they have a doubt and if it is medically proven than they have the right, but the point, they are in India, why the hell did they go to courts, come on guys, arent there better places to get it sorted out ? come now dont tell me that illegal obortions dont take place any more !!
RE:Stupid Couple !!!
by Mahesh on Aug 04, 2008 06:29 PM Permalink
You can argue if the judgement is right or wrong but to say why didn't they go for illegal abortion is tragic. You are not alone in thinking like that. We as a country will never be a great country of law.
RE:RE:Stupid Couple !!!
by Mahesh on Aug 04, 2008 06:31 PM Permalink
Great thinkining. If you are living in another country abide by the law and if you are living in India going to court is uncalled for.
RE:grant abortion.
by Rotofly Engineers on Aug 04, 2008 06:32 PM Permalink
it wont even make the news though brother... get it.... tragedies are strictly for citizens only, not lawmakers & law enforcers...
RE:grant abortion.
by aoneall on Aug 04, 2008 06:19 PM Permalink
Please read 'A Division Bench of Justice R M S Khandeparkar and Amjad Sayed hearing the petition observed that they could not alter the provision of the MTP Act' Judges go by existing law. They just can not simply change law themselves, even if they have their personal reservations about that law.
