RE:40 uncomfortable questions for Congress / UPA
by antonio on Apr 28, 2008 02:04 PM Permalink
23. Would the Congress take responsibility for any further deaths in IC-814 if Jaswant Singh hadnt got the terrorists released?
24. Why is the Congress not putting 10 Questions to Sharad Pawar when Farmers are dying everyday?
25. Why did the Congress take back SukhRam back in the party when he was found guitly in a huge Telecom Scam?
26. Why couldn't the Home Ministry prevent the Bomb Blasts at UP,Hyderabad, Mumbai..?
27. Why is the Congress sleeping over the naxal issue?
28. Why is the Congress so Quiet on Narandra Modi after admonishing publicly before the elections?
29. Why doesn%u2019t it allow its Prime Minister to work independently keeping him at the mercy of 10 Janpath?
30. Why was Rahul Gandhi promoted to the post of General Seceratry of the party when the party lost 3 elections of which he was the STAR campaigner?
31. Why is it silent on Nandigram?
32. Why did price rise not figure in its agenda till the election year?
33. Why have prices risen by 80% in last 4 years?
34. Why was Operation Rhino in Assam suspended (against ULFA)?
35. Who dismissed the most number of governments in states which were in opposition to the congress?
36. Who has called Lord Rama a myth?
37.Why has dawood not been terminated?
38. Why are super cops who terminate gundas, being sidelined?
39. In whose reign have most scams occurred?
40. Who betrayed Indians long time friend, Iran bowing to US and voted against it in UN?
The Congress Party has failed miserably in defending our borders, Hindus, Hindu culture, or to do anything more than protecting their own narrow political interests. As a party, the Congress has reduced its mind and heart to the level of intellectual and moral bankruptcy, outright dishonesty, corruption, ineptitude, nepotism, and inefficiency. These immoral practices have become the fallback mode of the Congress leaders. In the name of pseudo secularism, Congress moral relativists, atheists, and agnostics want to appease Muslims and want to overturn traditional Hindu culture and moral values.
Now the Congress Party headed by the Italian Catholic Sonia is devising new cunning schemes to restrict our liberties. For several years, Hindu organizations around the world had exposed Congress leaders despicable behaviour and corrupt practices.
For the last few years, Indian American Intellectual Forum in New York is in forefront in exposing corrupt and immoral practices of the Congress Party and its Italian catholic leader Sonia. Narain Kataria, Arish Sahani and Indian American Intellectual Forum members have expressed concerns about Jihadi terrorism, Sonia%u2019s deceptive statements about her background including her education and corrupt practices of the Congress Party. Indian American Intellectual Forum and its leaders have been trying to inform Hindus on the corrosive, violent, and immoral effect of the Congress Party. The public is aware that Indian American Intellectual
RE:Intellectual and Moral Bankruptcy of the Congress Party
by antonio on Apr 28, 2008 01:53 PM Permalink
This lawsuit is an attempt atintimidation of anyone inclined to raise questions or express concerns about the Italian Catholic Sonia who head the Congress Party. It is meant to silence her critics. Faced with the cost and time of defending themselves, plus the emotional drain the threat of lawsuit poses, the intent is to make the defendant give up, shut up and go away.
With this lawsuit, Congress bullies actually think they can fool, frighten and intimidate Hindus around the world. What is more. This legal intimidation has galvanized Hindus around the world and they have determined with all its strength to stop Sonia%u2019s plan to export the Congress culture sewage to the rest of the world. The lawsuit also exposes the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of the Congress Party headed by the Italian Catholic Sonia.
Muslims invaded india 1000 years ago, Looted the country, killed lakhs of native people, converted poor and weak people, ruled the land, After 1000 years instead of being loyal to the land where they lived, partitioned it based on their religion , they never became indians and always stayed as muslims, they took our land as pakistan and bangladesh, destroyed our culture and heritage from those lands , killed and converted the minorities in those countries.Now they are fighting in kashmir, If india looses kashmir, then next war will be in UP, Hyderabad and Kerala. As the pakistani leaders said Kashmir is the gateway into india, they want their flag in red fort.So fellow indians dont be stupid.. Dont be stupid like Nehru who instead of gaving 5 more days to the army went to UN to become a peace messenger. India is suffering since 50 years because of his stupidity. Dont think that if india gives away kashmir, evry thing will be alright. Read about SIMI and some other muslim organizations who want to bring islamic rule in india.Today kashmir tomorrow some more untill india is ruled by muslims again.
I agree with you that Hyderabad, Junagadh and parts of Kashmir (not Jammu) should have gone to Pakistan. However in reciprocity all muslims in India should have gone to Pakistan. Then it would be a fair deal since the basis of division of land was religion!
Think about it, if all muslims in India were in Pakistan: 1. Indian congress would not be wooing Muslims for minority votes. BJP would not even exist. 2. Pakistani politicians couldnt use Kashmir as an election issue. Instead they would have been exposed of their inability to govern and remove poverty in Pakistan. 3. All political parties both in India and Pakistan would be fighting elections on real issues.
I think it will be win-sin situation. Can we do it now ? Probably not since Pakistan will not accept India Muslims and India will not give up Kashmir. So why fight on a problem that we cannot solve ? Let us try to solve problems of poverty and education. Maybe after 500 years everyone will form a part of a Union like European Union and the problem will be solved automatically. Remember that France and Britain were fierce enemies. I guess the difference is that both are Christian countries.
RE:Hyderabad, Junagadh and parts of Kashmir
by Virgo on Apr 28, 2008 09:50 AM Permalink
No. Hyderabad, Junagad, Kashmir, Sindh, Paki Punjab, Baluchistan, NWFP/FATA, Bangladesh all belongs to India. Don't forget that the Muslims said that they are different people, different nation and different culture and that they are Arabs, Afghans, Mongols, Turks and Persians. If so, they are occupying Indian land. They should all go back to Arabia, Persia, Turkey, Afghanistan and CARs, the places from where they invaded Indian land and occupied and subjugated the population.
RE:Hyderabad, Junagadh and parts of Kashmir
by Milind on Apr 28, 2008 09:59 AM Permalink
Virgo,
I was giving JonBonJovi from Pakistan a chance to make a reasonable argument while making a demand for Kashmir. It was my mistake. We can wakeup someone who is sleeping. How can we awaken someone who is pretending to sleep ?
Read my last para to him: What have you done with the land that you already have ? Who has pushed Pakistan in to military rule, lawlessness, suicide bombing & poverty ? Hindus in India ?
Instead of answering my logical questions, now he will duck and write something unrelated or end up saying 'We want Kashmir. It doesnt matter that we will make it in to another Afghanistan'.
RE:Hyderabad, Junagadh and parts of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 08:50 AM Permalink
choice is for people! who wanted to stay stayed who wanted to move was to move! partition was demography! in interior Sind of pakistan many hindus stayed and never migrated like may muslims in india! so we arent discussing that we are discussing the simple rule to decide about princely states! everyone in india knows that a plebescite means an end to indian claim on kashmir,if not then there wouldnt been 7 lakh army deployed there. Punajb had 60-40 muslim domination but was divided and majority of the deaths happened there,ferozpur people knew that they will be in pakistan until 8aug but on 17th the story was different. 99 percent was the population and now its less than 2 percent many got killed in the same manner sikhs and hindus of lahore and lyallpur. It was politics but what aches me is when india claims kashmir as its crown while fully knowing the reality of accession. Pak is no angel we have faults as well that resulted in loss of E Pak now bangladesh but if pak employs the same notion on kashmir today then it becomes "terrorism" but in 1971 india supported bengalis then it was freedom struggle. one mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorist holds true! If we are so confident tht is pak and india then let plebescite to go forward and as they say in urdu "doodh ka doodh pani ka pani hojay ga" everything will be crystal clear! I must appreciate u tht atleast u agreed that they shud have gone to pakistan. I solmenly say junagadh and hyderabad after police action re
RE:Hyderabad, Junagadh and parts of Kashmir
by Milind on Apr 28, 2008 09:34 AM Permalink
JonBonJovi,
You say that choice is for people. If that was the case, was India given land in proportion to Hindus and Muslims that decided to stay in India ? NO! So when we divide the land, we use religion. While deciding who stays where, it is peoples' choice ? Kya arguement hai ? Wah!
When India parted with a part of its land to Pakistan on the basis of religion, why was this basis not strictly followed ? I would compare this with the previous owner of the house you bought still occupying the bathroom saying he likes the bathroom since he has emotions attached to it. So we make special rules in this new house (Muslim law in India) we bought where the original owner can occupy the bathroom when he needs it. Funny thing is this house belonged to our ancestors to begin with.
If Muslims can get a minority status in other states, shouldnt Hindus get a minority status in Kashmir ? Instead we make a special article where non-Kashmiris cannot settle or own property in Kashmir. Hindu pandits have been driven away by ethnic cleansing.
Muslim % in India has increased from 5% to 20% of population. Hindu population in Pakistan has decreased to probably less than 1%. What happened to the Hindus ? Our Presidents, Film stars, Sportsmen are Musllims. Can you name any Hindu who has made it big in Pakistan ?
What have you done with the land that you already have ? Who has pushed Pakistan in to military rule, lawlessness, suicide bombing & poverty ? Hindus in India ?
in India the voter ID card , used as a identity card, hope you get it ...the terrorist use it a identification document , not as voting document!!
you guys need to worry abt 20 million illegal bangladeshis groomed congress and communisat voters in India..not abt 3 or 4 thousand terrorists from pak afghan,loongistan, arabs...
RE:it is not abt voting rights!! retards
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 03:51 AM Permalink
wats the gaurentee prakash that the man who died was a kashmiri? u can easily label any kashmiri fighting as a pakistani intruder?
A online exhibition on the history of Kashmir and its current reality. This exhibition was shown at the Captiol Hill in Washington DC to educate US lawmakers about Kashmir.
RE:reality of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 03:35 AM Permalink
it doesnt show the acts of genocide of indian army 60000 deaths were all terrorists? y 370 in kashmir? the law of partition of 1947 was "princely states will decide on teir own to either join india or pakistan according to the wishes of its people" now analyse this rule for hyderabad deccan, junagadh and kashmir 1 Hyderabad muslin ruler predominantly hindu population, favored pakistan with no territorial border,police action state annexed rightly done since people shud be with india. 2 Junagadh 99 percent hindu state with muslim ruler, favored pak, police action done, plebscite, state went to india with 99 percent favor for india 3 kashmir muslim dominated ruler hindu, people demanded pakistan and thout he will go for pakistan. signed a treaty with pakistan that he needs time. time for what? sh abdullah was in jail for many years under this raja's rule for freedom activities. no action pakistan put pressure just liek india did on nizam of hyderabad army action,raja asked for indian help nehru asked for sheikh abdllahs release,agreed amry action, war, nehru goes to UN, cease fire,1/3 with pak.2/3 with india with borders with pakistan viable than india,UN asked for plebscite,agreed by indo pak, sh abdullah made kashmiri representative coz of his allegienace to nehru a thankful note for his release and never ending fight bw indo and pak. Now my frnds analyse even if pak did army action and all the bad things the state should be goin to pakistan since if people had been give
RE:reality of Kashmir
by Milind on Apr 28, 2008 05:58 AM Permalink
JonBonJovi,
I agree with you that Hyderabad, Junagadh and parts of Kashmir (not Jammu) should have gone to Pakistan. However in reciprocity all muslims in India should have gone to Pakistan. Then it would be a fair deal since the basis of division of land was religion! Also, there was no reason for India to pay 50 crores to Pakistan ?
RE:reality of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 08:55 AM Permalink
Milind not religion it was peoples choice this is the fact! who so ever want to leave can leave but lands with dominant population of one sect will be together that is hindu vs muslim. hyderabad should and junagadh rightly went to india as the demography and population with ppls choice all favor india but in kashmir its a total opposite! Remember the Jamiat Ulema e Hind were against partition they were the hard core muslims!
RE:RE:reality of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 03:44 AM Permalink
..if people had been given a choice like junagadh, where india conducted the plebscite coz it knew they will favor india,the people wud have voted for pakistan a fact recognised by Kirshna menon who said a plebscite is end of indian rule in kashmir! now itsego war people suffering in kashmir if u travel from srinagar it takes 24 hours to reach dehli and it takes 3-4 hours to reach rawalpindi in pakistan. The reason for not holding the plebscite was "pakistani terrorists" but elections were always done to make a kashmiri govt isnt this hipocrisy? Nehru's statements liek we dont wnat forced marriages and forced unifications is meaningless when 7 lakh troops are in kashmir with 3 wars in history. had ppl been with india then like khalistan movement the struggle wud have ended. but its not.ull kill one kashmiri freedom fighter banish him pakistani,case closed. both side of the border kashmir is autonomous ie they have their own govt,u cant buy land there only thing common on both sides is its army that is on borders. India has 370 rule to maintain kashmir in its territory pak has AJK to maintain its part,we will keep on fighting people will die but egos will never go down! Hari Singhs accession document never shown to international media and UN proves it a forged document. 2ndly even if he signed like junagadh nizam its meaningless and wishes of ppl were not cared for.many who fought the war were kashmiris.Keep on fighting. and im ready for some hate msgs try refuting them wit
RE:reality of Kashmir
by raaj on Apr 28, 2008 04:05 AM Permalink
i understand from your writing that you are indian , discontent with indian govt. you are wrong at the reason that, it is because of ego, it is bcos , the most important rivers flow from kashmir to both india & pak, if either of the one gets hold of kashmir, the looser will be dried up without water, that is the main reason it is so contentious, Even if india didnot intervene and if pak got kashmir, it would be like one more bangladesh. bcos there punjabis keeps dominating others. you are also wrong that on both sides people can buy land, it is true with pak, but not with india, no outsider can buy land in kashmir. the best solution for now would be to make the LOC as permenent border.
RE:reality of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 05:00 AM Permalink
LOC as almost permanent! in pak people cant buy land in AJK plus they ahve thir own govt president and different flag!
RE:reality of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 04:31 AM Permalink
i am a pakistani! but i am glad u recognised the real issue! ego is there too!water control is another big issues!like the new dam built by india in kashmir has implications for pakistan!i will refute the logic abt another bangladesh!the sole reason for its partition was no contagious border with pak. had kashmir been where bangladesh is and india where pak is then analyse the scanrio. punjabis dominating is a bit too much the reason punjab in pak shows too much is population,plus the votes u get are thru development,ppl are educated unlike sind where feudalism prevails and baluchistan where tribalism is dominant.nothing liek tht in punjab and nwfp reason of education.plus many in punjab join military due to cultural heritage and attitude. Now dear analyse if water is issue isnt it an issue for pakistan? that is y in pak we take kashmir as jugular vein of pakistan!plus the population and geographical demography favor kashmir with pakistan.this notion u have to agree upon! bangladesh never suited pakistan that is y Mountbatten famously told Nehru that in less than 25 years pak will loose it. rest is history aided by wrong policy and fuled by indian intelligence Shiekh Mujib did what pakistan is trying in kashmir! fate met Shiekh mujib still in indo pak matches they favor pak over india their savior. any way delighted to see a logical answer from u! peace!
RE:RE:reality of Kashmir
by JonBonJovi on Apr 28, 2008 03:48 AM Permalink
John if they wud know tht or read history via neutral sources many will know what is reality!i am not blaming india,its states reason to make its lands bigger capture and occupy,had pakistan been in the position it wud have done so! but wat pains is the people! in pak ull hear kashmiris dying in india ull hear pandits dying but look at stats 80-20 or 70-30 is the ratio its even higher than PUNJAB which was divided but not kashmir. ferozpur was given to pakistan until 8 august 1947 but on 17 aug itw as indian part. reason? it was 95 percet muslim plus had the largest cantonment.from here operation gulbarg was lanched lus it gave india a contagious border with kashmir. read and use logic!
this is nothing new. with congress in power for more than 60 years, goons and terrorists have more power in countries policies than anyone else. recently there is fatwa saying "eating beef is un-islamic if govt bans it". but it is already banned and they are saying just to keep congress in power so they can show to congress that they are the only on which congress can win and hence congress has to believe whatever they say... not everyone's intention is wrong here but by giving more power to minority and not sharing equally amongst other community is what problem of india and congress just wants to divide india and not to bring everyone together. regarding terrorists, it is congress who is always soft and hence terrorists are becoming more and more powerfull at the expense of innocent people...
