Why are we Indians fighting over things that can be amicably settled like religion , statehood language etc, stop listening to these idiotic illiterate politians and get together and buid India a Land of plenty , Question the political leaders what they are doing , get things done, India is a great Nation so start building not destroying
Its happy to see an artificial union called India is created in the coming years will the cinema how the central government handles the situation soon another USSR or Yugoslavia is emerging better India dissolve peacefully if not than the whorst will come.
RE:India Shaking Wow.
by daimavane on Apr 03, 2008 11:02 PM Permalink
Are you not worried? If you truly know how brave he is it should chill your stomach man.
RE:India Shaking Wow.
by Eagle on Apr 03, 2008 11:22 PM Permalink
You are one of the snake in this blog poking against North, bollybood & now karnataka. You can face me and prove yourself. already working with several braves & know him very well. LTTE one of the crual face of tamilians and I hate LTTE. They used several minor and women for dirty cause.
RE:India Shaking Wow.
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on Apr 04, 2008 08:26 PM Permalink
so do you hate the Sinhalese who currently with the Indian help are comitting genocide and ethnic clansing on the Eelam Tamils . SO what is your solution to this. The Ltte only become cruel becouse of 60 years of Sinhlas cruelty to Tamils. Even now they hardly targer civilians. Unlike the SriLanka government who under the guise of fighting with the LTTe have targetted Tamil cilvilans. Deliverately bombed schools orphanages. Hospitals Homes Kovils and churches. Chesed Tamils away form theor lands and have colonised thses lands with Sinhalese. Currently Sri Lanka's biggest supporter in this genocidal dance is India. This can be seen by the red carpet treatment given to the Sri Lankan armed forcs chief and the comments made by the Indian politicians amd Armed forces. Many of these politicians who are behind these pro Sri Lankan move are the same people, who advised Rajiv Ghandhi in 1987 during the IPKF debacle. Dont mix up issues, Teh Native Sri Lankan Tamils have nothing to do with India or Indian politics. IF you have any issues deal with it locally and have any issues withte Tamils in Indai fight it with them and not take it out on another people. thinking that the Tamils in India are powerful sp what ever you wish for them can be taken out against the Eelam Tamils as they are powerless and are only fighting for thoer survival and their just rights in their native lands. You hav enever experinced the vast scale discrimination ethnic cleansing and displacement that we have.
RE:RE:India Shaking Wow.
by duraiswamy srinivasan on Apr 03, 2008 11:04 PM Permalink
Not an tamil so there is no need to be an member of any tamil organisation truth is truth after Indira gnadhi no PM in india takes stubborn decision as well rightfull decision thats the reason for all these things if not change happens its reality so indian dreamers dream for india then it will too late.
RE:India Shaking Wow.
by Adam Marshall on Apr 03, 2008 11:13 PM Permalink
Why should India dissolve for the sake of a few political rascals? Never. India needs to transform politically and strengthen itself internally like China and eliminate these garbage items from India. Anybody trying to threaten the integrity of India should be killed openly in public.
tamils try to get their way by uncivilized means and still are boastful Nincompoops, who think everything originated in tamil nadu. These people have a long way to go before they can call themselves Indians.
RE:tamils
by Adam Marshall on Apr 03, 2008 11:02 PM Permalink
Violence begets violence. It was Karnataks's BJP unit that instigated the crisis. Why blame the Tamils for what a shameless politician called Yediyurappa did? Moreover it's you who need to change your attitude with a broad view and change your bias against the Tamils. The current situation is similar to the aftermath of Raj Thakeray's anti non marathi campaign.
RE:RE:tamils
by tamil on Apr 03, 2008 11:07 PM Permalink
yes u r right Adam if the Govt wud hav arrested b4 tis BJP yedirupa started the voilence then everything wud hav calmed ... He started the violence with no base... dumb head yedi fellow
RE:tamils
by Tamil natan on Apr 03, 2008 10:57 PM Permalink
yes- John. Who is an Indian? All of us, when we go abroad..... But in India, we all come from different part of India- and we are proud of the state we come from. Do you agree with that?
RE:RE:tamils
by John Tirupati on Apr 03, 2008 11:00 PM Permalink
Similarly, would you tolerate if all telugus, malayalis in tamil nadu are proud of andhra and kerala?
RE:RE:RE:tamils
by tamil on Apr 03, 2008 11:04 PM Permalink
come to Chennai & see the difference.. u know Chennai is popluated by 35% Telegus( pan parag ppl i mean ppl who spit pan every corner) & 25% Mallus.. still no issue y.. its over tolerant nature... if Tamils spit like the telegus in bgl wil u accept.. never but v do in Chennai
RE:tamils
by John Tirupati on Apr 03, 2008 11:03 PM Permalink
it doesn't make sense anyway. when you go to other state, you got to mix with the culture there. tamils are poor at that.
RE:tamils
by Nidhi Nirmal on Apr 03, 2008 11:05 PM Permalink
no , we shall not define ourselves being part of a state , rather be PROUD TO BE CALLED AND INDIAN, b'cos even US,China,Pakistan,Europe , know what we are capable of . We donot exhibit , but shall pull our socks when needed ,like KARGIL
RE:tamils
by prashanth kumar on Apr 03, 2008 11:25 PM Permalink
Accept Hindi as national language first then feel proud.you people lean English and what is t he problem in Hindi
RE:tamils
by ArunPrasad Venkatasubramanian on Apr 03, 2008 11:05 PM Permalink
Now you are the one who is talking like a nincompoos, you piece of crap. Do you know that the bloody issue was created by Kannadigas, who after 60 odd years claim hoganakal to be part of their state. BTW, Tamil is in fact the oldest language and culture in India and one of the oldest in the world also Tamil Nadu is one of the better managed states in India . If you are too jealous to cope up with that then go stuff your head into your behind.
RE:RE:tamils
by jalak Dikhlaja on Apr 03, 2008 11:21 PM Permalink
Rei Arun... Vaayi mudu be saale ga.. Entra fact ne abba..... Tamil is probably 2000 years old..where did oldest come from..Oh right...you are a Tamil Lunatic..keep barking about your old shit
RE:tamils
by Edwin Navaratnam on Apr 04, 2008 08:06 PM Permalink
Sanskrit is not the oldest its is Old Tamil or proto Dravidian , Even classical Sanskrit has a lot of words of Dravidian origin. It was not a one way traffic.
RE:tamils
by bala chandran on Apr 04, 2008 12:47 AM Permalink
Only problem is that Sanskrit is a DEAD language. Census says India has about 50,000 speakers of Sanskrit.
You know what Tulu is spoken by millions of people.
RE:tamils
by daimavane on Apr 03, 2008 11:21 PM Permalink
There are mnay kannada idiots like you living in TN.. but we do not harass them like you do to Tamilsin KN becos we're human being as opposed to youi chimpanzees.
RE:????
by veeru raghavan on Apr 03, 2008 10:58 PM Permalink
What are u blabbering..M.s.Swaminathan is the father of food revolution in India..india ecame self-suffcient bcoz of him. Nijalingappa, Kamaraj, Rajaji are freedom fighters..
RE:????
by Eagle on Apr 03, 2008 11:12 PM Permalink
The Green Revolution created wide regional and interstate disparities. major contribution by Punjab, UP west and Haryana. rest of states opposed and started interstae disparities. Mr swami was minister and his job to initiate this. but he failed to make unity between all states. That's why as on today, we have food insecurity & agriculture is one of the low income area.
Has anybody visited to Mauritius? And visited one of the Tamil temple, and chat with the local there.
I was surprised to hear that some people with obvious Kanadagese, malayalee and even Telugu name says they are Tamils.
I think, it must be due to fact that the South Indian there migrated before the linguistic states were created here, and all came from the Madras presidency of that time.
Or maybe, also south Indian there are a minority, and the biharis are the majority- so these South Indian migrant have group together under the label of Tamils.
Do we tell have them of the lingusitic divison here ?
RE:Has anybody been to Mauritius?
by prashanth kumar on Apr 04, 2008 01:28 AM Permalink
Soon rediff will publish an article Tamils in Maritus attacked.Karunanidhi flays attack on Tamilinas in Mauritius--wait for the day
RE:Political Parties Need to Explain their Actions.
by rajana on Apr 03, 2008 10:53 PM Permalink
It hurrts Lingayats - BJP in Karnataka is a Lingayat party.
RE:RE:Political Parties Need to Explain their Actions.
by KR Prasanna on Apr 03, 2008 10:57 PM Permalink
BJP anywhere is not a particular caste based party.
RE:Political Parties Need to Explain their Actions.
by rajana on Apr 03, 2008 11:01 PM Permalink
Karnataka, BJP only Lingayats - all others can't stand Lingayats
RE:Political Parties Need to Explain their Actions.
by Umakanth Reddy on Apr 03, 2008 10:56 PM Permalink
Vankata Cha first get out of our telengana. Then talk about regional integrity. You people have totally utilised our natural resources. And brought us to roads. Go back to Andhra and leave our Telengana alone.
RE:Political Parties Need to Explain their Actions.
by tamil on Apr 03, 2008 10:57 PM Permalink
as this message is for ppl from karnataka.. it needs repeat .. so that u can understand 50% ofthe msg .. ok iah understood ( i mean atleast 50 %)
RE:RE:Political Parties Need to Explain their Actions.
by KR Prasanna on Apr 03, 2008 11:01 PM Permalink
the message is for the tamils living in Karnataka, hope they give up drinking water for their brethern in tamil nadu
RE:Political Parties Need to Explain their Actions.
by Nidhi Nirmal on Apr 03, 2008 11:14 PM Permalink
we Indians should ban parties like BJP as it always plans itself to spread communal haste ,and rivals among we Indians , only for the sole purpose of being in power .
RE:Political Parties Need to Explain their Actions.
by venkata laiah on Apr 03, 2008 11:01 PM Permalink
Use some brain, type some meaningfull message, dont copy past like kid.
RE:Political Parties Need to Explain their Actions.
by daimavane on Apr 03, 2008 11:10 PM Permalink
Idiot it's you who is cpoying and pasting everywhere.. You must be a meanspritied , uncomminucative software programmer sitting in some shitty company in bangalore. Just see the stupid list you're posting everywhere.
Really appreaciate our CM Mr.Karunanidi's boldness and courage to retaliate back to Karnataka ,as we tamilians have always remained patience towards securing our rights for the people of Tamilnadu . We being a democratic should understand that should unite together to make this country a healthy and powerful nation rather than fight for water and power . The message is for karnataka is that the Water is natural resource and no one has the Right to demand over a Natural resource created by the Almighty .
RE:HAIL OUR CM-TN
by Naveen on Apr 03, 2008 10:57 PM Permalink
SHUT IT. WHAT DO HIS WIVES HAVE TO DO WITH HOGENAKKAL? YOU IDIOT. LET HIM HAVE EVEN 1000 WIVES. SHOWS THAT HE IS THE MAN UNLIKE YOUR IMPOTENT YEDI"OTHA"APPA.
RE:HAIL OUR CM-TN
by Nidhi Nirmal on Apr 03, 2008 11:23 PM Permalink
Don't be jealous of that , if you are not able to do that . If our CM can do that at age og 80 , then shame on you . Don't ever show yr disgust w/o knowing the facts .
RE:HAIL OUR CM-TN
by venkata laiah on Apr 03, 2008 10:57 PM Permalink
Shall we award Noble prize for peace. Entire india knows what this blind karunanidhi does for india, 1) Ramsethu 2) provoking kannnadigas 3) Hating Hindi 4) Targeting Malayalis ion chennai before MGR 5) Supporting LTTE
Nidhi Nirmal, shall we award Nobel prize for peace for the antisocial element of india. Think over again!!!!!
RE:RE:HAIL OUR CM-TN
by Nidhi Nirmal on Apr 03, 2008 11:35 PM Permalink
Dear Venkata , Again would prefer to provide you some facts as per my knowledge. a) Ramsethu - As I hv served 20 yrs in the shipping indusrty , I know a bit how this could serve the Industry ,as it saves lot of money , transit time ,fuel and frequency . Min 30% saving of transit and time and freight costs. 2)Proviking kannadigas - The whole world knows , that the problem has arised only fm Kn and not fm Tn >>> damaging buses,shops , injuring tamils ( wonder how they can solve the prob) 3)Hating Hindi - Never in our CM's tenure had He hated Hindi , rather He had made Tamil as our Official language . You come to chennai ,and see for your self that you will never feel uncomfortable in your transportation nor communicating with people , but I have been to Bangalore , even one cannot read the buses numbers nor destn ,as it will be written in Kannad .When you have adopted this system years ago ,we think now it is our time to promote TAMIL 4) Malayalis - Frankly and honestly speaking ,swear , I am a Malayali ,and never realised your illfeelings untiln now. 5) LTTE : Know your facts thoroughly b4 accusing.
what is going on? everybody is smashing each other in the name of regional/religious basis without thinking that this Hogenakkal issue is only a election stund by the karnataka/tamilnadu political parties! they will win the election and will enjoy the power and poor followers will loose their lifes and houses! come on yaar...
RE:what is this?
by on Apr 03, 2008 10:46 PM Permalink
True.. for Yediyurappa and SMK election is nearing, so some sensitive issue is required.. and on other side, no progress on ram sethu and fund misuse!
Hogenakkal has one shore in Karnataka's side whereas the other shore is in Tamilnadu(officially Dharmapuri district). The infrastructure relating to this project will be built on the TN's side of Hogenakkal. It is where Cauvery enters Tamilnadu. This project will never come in the way of Karnataka. Morover, this project was approved by both Karnataka and Central Government in 1998. TN agreed to Bangalore Water supply project and KN agreed to Hoge drinking water project mutually provided both states use from their allocated share. Hoge project was stopped due to various sanctions imposed on India due to Pokhran nuclear tests. I wonder why KN is opposing now.
Kindly analyse the geography of this area of dispute. It will be practically impossible or too expensive to take the water from Mettur dam than Hogenakkal as Mettur is surrounded in the north by Shervaroyan Hills, a meeting point of eastern and a part of western ghats. It is practically too difficult to lay huge pipes thro' these mountains to reach Dharmapuri and Krishnagiri districts. Morover, the Mettur dam is in lower aprarian region that Hogennakal, Dharmapuri and Krishnagiri and everyone knows that water flows from higher level to lower level. Can you people deny this?. The right for which TN is fighting is valid. Dharmapuri and Krishnagiri districts are highly water starved districts and Hogenakkal can be the only place where water can be pumped in large quantities due to its enormous depth (that too from the alloca
RE:Humanistic approach
by saigeetha jagannathan on Apr 03, 2008 10:46 PM Permalink
I request all kannidiga friends to take a humanistic approach to this issue than as a border dispute. After all,the people of these districts are as human as those in Bangalore and other parts of Karnataka.
RE:Humanistic approach
by prashanth kumar on Apr 03, 2008 10:56 PM Permalink
The dispute issue of Few Hogenalakl islands are stil not settled and it is pending.Now TN wants to swallow this islands by starting water dam. why they want to build the dam exactly on the border. It was Karunanidhis statement that Kanndigs are lingustic caused all the eruption of voilance.whole world knows who is linguistic.if tamilians so good people and nationalits why cant they accept Hindi as National language
RE:Humanistic approach
by saigeetha jagannathan on Apr 03, 2008 11:01 PM Permalink
Dear Prashanth, There is no dispute officially regarding Hogenakkal issue but it only regarding the share of cauvery water. This dispute was started by Hooligans like Vatal Nagaraj only after the death of Veerappan. Until then, this issue was not all raised by KN. There is no official dispute on claims over Hoge in records for your information buddy.
RE:Humanistic approach
by Raj Raj on Apr 03, 2008 11:05 PM Permalink
Hindi is a creole language that originated some 600 years after various sanskrit dialects mingled with Turkish/Persian of the ruling muslim kings.
Tamil (and Kannada) are ancient languages. If Hindi is to be made the National language because 38% of the Indians speak it...them let us make street dog as our 'national animal' instead of Tiger....and crow as national bird....instead of peocock.
RE:Humanistic approach
by Nidhi Nirmal on Apr 03, 2008 10:55 PM Permalink
Appreaciate yr good knowledge over the subject and fully agree with you , but it is u/stood that always KN provoke the TN's for some issue , be it Cauvery or HG issue even knowing very well that all Hogenikkal belongs to TN .
RE:RE:RE:Humanistic approach
by prashanth kumar on Apr 03, 2008 10:58 PM Permalink
Wrong.It was Karunanidhis statement that Kanndigas are lingustic caused all the eruption of voilance.whole world knows who is linguistic.if tamilians so good people and nationalits why cant they accept Hindi as National language
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Humanistic approach
by prashanth kumar on Apr 03, 2008 10:59 PM Permalink
same Tamil nadu stopped the cleaning of Ponds and lakes in three districts of Karnataka which were near to Cauvey(not belonged to River) fearing that Karnataka may store river water there and create shortage.you know each and every village has pond or Lake and if it is not cleaned what will happen to villagers. Finally it was Karunanidhi who called Kannada people as Lingustic in public meeting and te whole world knows who are linguistic people.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Humanistic approach
by saigeetha jagannathan on Apr 03, 2008 11:02 PM Permalink
Kindly analyse the geography of this area of dispute. It will be practically impossible or too expensive to take the water from Mettur dam than Hogenakkal as Mettur is surrounded in the north by Shervaroyan Hills, a meeting point of eastern and a part of western ghats. It is practically too difficult to lay huge pipes thro' these mountains to reach Dharmapuri and Krishnagiri districts. Morover, the Mettur dam is in lower aprarian region that Hogennakal, Dharmapuri and Krishnagiri and everyone knows that water flows from higher level to lower level. Can you people deny this?. The right for which TN is fighting is valid. Dharmapuri and Krishnagiri districts are highly water starved districts and Hogenakkal can be the only place where water can be pumped in large quantities due to its enormous depth (that too from the allocated share) than in other areas. I request all my kannadiga friends to approach this issue more in HUMANIZED manner than declaring as a border issue. After all, those living in these two districts are as human as those living in Bangalore or other parts of Karnataka.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Humanistic approach
by saigeetha jagannathan on Apr 04, 2008 09:28 AM Permalink
Oh! you mean only those who accept Hindi as a national language are good people. Then try to declare as the global language to make everyone good. Funny. Good God. Its useless to let you understand in more genuine way by giving you facts scientifically. Its the height of hipocracy.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Humanistic approach
by saigeetha jagannathan on Apr 03, 2008 11:03 PM Permalink
Dear Prashanth, There is no dispute officially regarding Hogenakkal issue but it only regarding the share of cauvery water. This dispute was started by Hooligans like Vatal Nagaraj only after the death of Veerappan. Until then, this issue was not all raised by KN. There is no official dispute on claims over Hoge in records for your information buddy.
