RE:if ram is a myth then what about siva or shiv. is he a myth too.
by suresh on Sep 25, 2007 07:18 PM Permalink
no point in throwing a stone on shit(karuna)
RE:RE:if ram is a myth then what about siva or shiv. is he a myth too.
by Ramesh Agarwal on Sep 25, 2007 07:43 PM Permalink
dinesh kumar is mentally sick and should get his treatment.How any body is allowed to hurt the feelings of millions.If you are non beliver of Bhagwan in any form then you do whatever you like but dont try to create friction.You are anti national and think about a state and not nation.You were harbouring LTTE for traing and other helps to be used against SriLanka which is against International Laws.Your God is Karunnidhi you go and worship him you will get something from him,but you forget who has created you and the world around you perhaps Perriyer.It seems you say soething in public and pray to God when you are in trouble.
God has create everything in this world. Going by a logic that Lord Rama made Ram Sethu, so it should not be broken, nothing in this world can be broken. Grow up ignorant losers. World is growing fast and God will help only those who are willing to change and grow.
RE:So much for God
by Virendra Singh on Sep 25, 2007 07:08 PM Permalink
If you haven't got anything useful to say (apart from making fun of Hindi speakers/Sikh) please keep your mouth shut. People like you are so coward, they shout either in net forums or when with mob.
RE:So much for God
by hinduhitler on Sep 25, 2007 07:22 PM Permalink
U r a sikh, so u think ur brave is it, u call everyone here ignorant losers, ur a big loser, go read granth sahib, and learn how to talk and respect people, what mob are u talking abt, i will take u on where ever u want alone. final word-ur community started terrorism in india not hindus. U shouldnt be even commenting about Ram setu, what have u got to do abt it.
RE:So much for God
by Virendra Singh on Sep 25, 2007 07:28 PM Permalink
Just tells about your level of IQ. You think any Singh is a Sikh. Great.... Try telling that to any Hindu Kshatriya or Meitei. And as for your taking me on in a duel, I agree you can easily beat me. Even your logic are killing me.
RE:So much for God
by hinduhitler on Sep 25, 2007 07:37 PM Permalink
HohohoHahahahaha, finally i met a smart Singh. listen moron, u seem to be decent guy, nt a paki. y dont u go home and drink sweet lassi, with punjabi samosa.
RE:So much for God
by arvind rb on Sep 25, 2007 07:48 PM Permalink
Hitlerji ...... Dont call like that to sikhs ... sikhs are the people becuase of whome we are hindu today ....I am a hindu and I know this fact ... pl. read Guru govind Singh history ... he sarificed everything for hinduism ...
Virendra Singh is saying right ... everything is made by RAM so there is no problem is destroying RAM setu.... But the same principal should apply eveywhere .. is there is a masjid on the road and it need to be broken to widen the raod that should be done ... In ahmedabad huge riots took place on this fact ... and congrees called BJP facist ... that is wrong ...
Ram NAAM is enough for all Indians ... RAM is India each brick in India is RAM
RE:So much for God
by hinduhitler on Sep 25, 2007 08:05 PM Permalink
Boss i know who is Guru govindji is, what nonsense ur talking abt -'sikhs are the people becuase of whome we are hindu today'. hahahaah if this was true, then most of the hindus would have joined sikhism. and completing the previous post, hindus never bombed the plane. ok boss. now u can have a chaass with a sikh, mind u i dont have anything against them, this moron started it.
RE:So much for God
by Gururaj S on Sep 25, 2007 08:39 PM Permalink
There are many reasons why it should not be broken.
1. Its a matter of faith. I am sure people will protest if the faith is questioned in the case of Prophet's hair at Hazratbal, in the case of Buddha's tooth, in the case of virgin Mary giving birth to Jesus Christ, his resurrection after crucification, etc, etc.
2. If other religions have a right to their belief and protection of their institutions and relics, so also the Hindus.
3. You know the unsavoury incidents at Golden temple that resulted in those violent action and subsequent violent reactions that lead to so much unwanted bloodshed. Congressmen went berserk following the assasination of Indira Gandhi by two of her body guards.
4. You have observed the reckless reaction to the Danish cartoonist's caricature of the Prophet. A Minister in of Mulayam Singh government announces a bounty for the head of the cartoonist and yet the police does not take any action. However, in case of Vedanti one sees a FIR being filed.
The more important reasons:
1. Ecological: The region is house to many rare species which might become extinct if this project goes on. Huge danger of Tsunami, & severe storms to TN & Kerala.
2. Economical: Many have expressed opinion that this channel will not really save much and large ships cannot use it.
3. Loss of livelihood: It is a conglomerate group of Hindus, Muslims, Christians that is protesting because of threat to their livelihood.
I can imagine the reactions of people 75 years back when the so called lower castes were fighting for their rights to enter temples. I can imagine that the reactions would have been extreme. How could one man and his followers have fought against an entire system. The courage of periyar and his intellectual strength won that fight. It is sad but true that the people who are loud and proclaim that they are fighting hinduism are actually doing the most damage to hinduism.
RE:REACTIONS
by suresh on Sep 25, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
u know periyar is a born kannadiga he wanted the support of dravidins thats why he established this type of things dont get bogged down dinesh
RE:REACTIONS
by dinesh kumar on Sep 25, 2007 07:05 PM Permalink
the only revolution in the world which overturned an unjust system by the power of the pen was the movement of periyar. the chief minister of tamilnad has first hand experience of that struggle and when he speaks it is from that experience. whenever the subject of reservation comes in,there are predictable reactions from the youth that caste should be abolished. the youth on rediff that periyar and karunanidhi have laid the foundations for a casteless society. some vested interests will point out to some episodes of recent times. the foundations have been laid.
RE:REACTIONS
by suresh on Sep 25, 2007 07:09 PM Permalink
i apriciate a caste less socity i hate discrimination by anybdy but not karunas way of destroying a beatiful religion, RSS has found VHP to reach it to the lower strata of the society u see the work done by them in tribal areas iam not holding any beidf to VHP
RE:REACTIONS
by suresh on Sep 25, 2007 07:01 PM Permalink
tamil nadu is full of cast politics karuna has less than 2% of his cast hw else can he consolidate his base dont get into brahmin non bhamin sqabble indina banke socho tamilian banke math socho my frnd
RE:REACTIONS
by arvind rb on Sep 25, 2007 07:56 PM Permalink
Dinesh .... Do you believe in Aryan theory .... It is used by british to divide indians ... who can say he is aryan today after so many conquests in India .... Periyar said RAVANA WAS DRAVIDIAN FROM TAMIL NADU ... DO YOU KNOW RAVANA WAS A BHRAMIN ...FROM SHRI LANKA ... SHINALA ... SAME LANKANS AGAINST WHOME TAMILS ARE FIGHTING STILL .... RAVANA WIFE MADODARI IS A REVERED FIGURE IN NORTH ALSO ... RAVANA WAS LEARNED BHRAMIN UPASAK OF SHIVA AND ALL HIS POWERS WERE FROM SHIVA .....ON LAST COUNT SHIVA WAS INDIAN NOT DRAVIDIAN ..... ALL THIS WAS BECAUSE BRITISH WANTED TO DIVIDE INDIANS AND PREIYAR HELPED THEM DO THIS ... I AM NOT SAYING CASTEISM IS RIGHT HE FOUGHT AGAINST THAT ... THAT WAS RIGHT BUT IN NORTH ... ARYA SAMAJ ... SIKHS ... AND LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE FOUGHT AGAISNT THAT ....EVEN IN MUSLIMS THEY HAVE SECTS LIKE SHIA ,,, DRUZE ISMALIA AND THEY KILL EACH OTHER ...ATLEAST BHRAMINS DIDNT DO THAT ... BHRAMINS USED RELIGION TO THERE ADVANTAGE ,,,WHAT POLITICIANS ARE DOING NOW...
RE:REACTIONS
by dinesh kumar on Sep 25, 2007 08:21 PM Permalink
there are commonalities between the north and the south,and there are differences. one of the differences is that rama is not worshipped in the south. shiva is the universal deity of india. the differences need notbe swept under the carpet. we are the greatest democracy because inspite of the differences,we are one nation.
RE:REACTIONS
by Parrupu Dasan on Sep 25, 2007 07:36 PM Permalink
if u see the movie periyar u will see that he was not interested in education and as per dravida standard did not go beyond 3rd standard. he was actively engaged in visiting brothels and bars and also suggested how to correctly "maintain" their business. this is his mental background. the only reason he took up the temple entry issue was to get support of these people for his justice party which was prmoted by the british against the congress (not todays congress) this was politics then and politics now. actually the people who benefitted from the reservation are the the rich obc like mudaliar, naidu, naicker (periyar caste) etc and NOT the sc & st
To every man his belief, to every belief its Religion and to every religion its GOD. Every religion has one basic objective and that is to keep its flock together, for that it may preach that it is supreme and it knows best. But when you probe further you find that the gods didn't even know that the world is a sphere, or for that that matter the world was bigger than the country where they were preaching (SIMPLE THINGS NOW ). The philosophies explained and facts written though verifiable are seldom disturbed. The unwritten code is to not doubt it but follow it in faith. As far as these religions help in coexistence and allow humankind to bloom and prosper it has served a purpose. else we always look for new job/home when not satisfied at the present one don't we? LETS RESPECT ALL RELIGIONS AND ITS GODS, LET THE BEST GOD WIN... JAI HIND
a) Hinduism has been derived from the word Hindu. Hinduism was a name given in English language in the Nineteenth Century by the English people to the multiplicity of the beliefs and faith of the people of the Indus land. According to New Encyclopedia Britannica 20:581. The British writers in 1830 gave the word Hinduism to be used as the common name for all the beliefs of the people of India excluding the Muslims and converted Christians.
b) The term Hinduism is misleading because though it suggests the unified system of beliefs and ideas, it is certainly not the case. Hinduism is too broad a phenomenon to be confined to a usual definitions of religions. It does not owe its origin, formation or finalization to any historical person or a prophet since there is no uniformly accepted belief sacraments, rituals and practices in Hinduism, there are no criteria for establishing rules in Hinduism. In short a person who calls himself a Hindu becomes a true practicing Hindu irrespective who he worships and what ever may be his beliefs and practice.
c) According to the Hindu scholars Hinduism is a misnomer and it should be referred a Sanatana Dharma, meaning eternal religion or Vedic Dharma meaning religion of the Veda. According to Swami Vivekananda the followers of this religion is referred as Vedantist.
RE:Who is Hindu
by srinivas on Sep 25, 2007 07:02 PM Permalink
Very funny... you gave references written by the british/english few in 18th century about a religion or dharma which has been being practised for thousands of years
