RE:Jyoti Basu
by Prem Mohan on Sep 21, 2007 07:21 PM Permalink
He will be a hundred years old soon. He can appoint Harekrishna Singh Surjeet as his foreign minister.
This very Jyoti Basu had all along followed the hard core CPM policies all throughout his life and finished off Bangal and now he speaks of development as he does not have any thing to loose politically or rather he is taking revenge of his comrades for not letting him become the PM of the country.
The problem of todays politicians are that most of them lack formal qualifications. Mr. Basu has a tremendous educational background which helped him to remain a master in parliamentary democracy. Education which has mde all the difference
RE:Master politician
by Anindya ghosh on Sep 21, 2007 07:56 PM Permalink
yes, education made him realize , that by providing ration cards to illegal bangaldeshi muslims will help him win elections...doesnt matter if the country goes to dogs because of his immaturity...shame on SOB Jyoti basu
RE:Master politician
by Prem Mohan on Sep 21, 2007 08:11 PM Permalink
Is that question for me? Jyoti Basu deindustrialised West Bengal peacefully. Pol Pot has to resort to violence to deindustrialise Cambodoa (whatever little industry there was). Hence, I think of Jyoti Basu as Brother No. 1 in West Bengal and a Gandhian Pol Pot.
RE:Master politician
by Aby Koshy on Sep 21, 2007 08:23 PM Permalink
You say that Jyoti Basu deindustrialised West Bengal peacefully. That does say a lot about the people of West Bengal.
And now before furious Bengalis fly of the handle, let me clarify. It is not possible that the people of a nation could have waited with folded hands while the ruling class 'peacefully' dismantled the industries that were running. It is well known that though Basu would not have used 'Pol Pot'ian ruthlessness to crush industries, his services, wily nily to uphold the rights of the workers, did much to crush the industrial environment of the state. However, by no stretch of imagination can you call the fight for worker rights as 'Gandhian'. Especially as it wreaked havoc over a sustained period of twenty five years.
And therefore do I comment that 'Gandhian Pol Pot' is an oxymoron.
RE:Master politician
by Prem Mohan on Sep 21, 2007 08:29 PM Permalink
Compared to Pol Pot, Jyoti Basu was Gandhian. He used means such as gherao, strike, michhil, gono-andolan, etc. He did not resort to murder and mayhem, although there were a few cases of violence But he used his methods ruthlessly and achieved his objective of deindustrialising West Bengal. So in my thinking, his objectives were the same as those of Pol Pot i.e., exploitation of workers can be stopped if there is no industry. Jyoti Basu was successful!
RE:Master politician
by jay krishnan on Sep 22, 2007 02:27 AM Permalink
You guys need to learn a lot about the quality of life of people in WB and Kerala before you can shoot your mouth off most learnedly. Mere presence of huge industries with few people mainly foriegners making shit loads of money to take home to their families while using up the native state resources and increasing local pollution and thus effecting the health of local people and doling out a few coins to the native workers and keep them uninformed nor make them part of management or strategy or profit sharing, while the spoils are shared by a select few with industries mushrooming up all over with < 0.1% of population owning and profiting from these businesses and while the gap between haves and havenots is longer than the great wall of China and the impoverished keep getting poorer and the grass roots are neglected while it serves only a few backboneless software coolies, raising up real estate prices such that a decent house is beyond the reach of the common man or senselessly spend their western licked earned dollars thus raising the inflation on the price of essential goods through the roof for the common man, whose greedy and selfish nature is legendary, and ship abandoning skills that would make a possom proud, Or the rich few who have no religion or patriotism ( these so called 'global citizens') and who have forgotten how to speak their native language in their own homes) and who will sell their country off in a jiffy.. this is your idea of upliftment of people ?
I think today DMK supremo should learn from Jyoti Basu, how to remain cool. He is a communist but had never problems with any religious groups. I wonder being a communist if he can do that why DMK supremo goes ballistic over Ramsetu issue and made some inflamatory statements.
What jyoti basu is saying now is only to save face and retreat on the stand taken by his party regarding the nuclear deal .. every body in India wants development and even the bengalis have deserted CPIM on the nuclear issue .. so this is jyoti's face saving tactics .. Jyoti Basu has totally ruined West Bengal during his rule as the CM and he would have taken India back by another 30-40 years if he would have become the PM .. God save us all from the leftists who are not concerned about the growth and development of our country but just want to appease their Chinese masters ... shame on Karat/Yechuri and his other leftist friends .. what a pity that although India is a country of rich heritage, history and culture, these leftists don't have their own truly Indian Ideology and have to follow the communism and Marx & lenin and their chinese comrades for their day to day livelihood ...
Possibly the most sensible politicians of our age.He is a communist but have never made any derogatory comments against any religion. Always reamained above petty controversies. Really amazing
RE:Great guy!!
by Anindya ghosh on Sep 21, 2007 07:07 PM Permalink
he's a old hog...bloody guy who ruined W.Bengal...allowed millions of bangladeshi terrorists to sneak into india...
Dear Prakash Karat, Bardhan, Gurudas Dasgupta and the like opposing the N-deal,
Take a lesson from Jyoti babu and Budhadeb. They have joined hands with US and you are still singing Chinese song. Shaking hands with US is anyday better deal than hanpacked Chinese agents. Its still not too late. Take a back seat, do not comment of the N-deal and let the controversary die its own death. Benefit for you? American party will be more enjoyable than the Chinese one. Wanna bet?
RE:N-deal
by Sudipta Ghosh on Sep 21, 2007 07:09 PM Permalink
actually karats are getting money from china.
in our country there are plenty of problems and more serious than N-deal. go to any vilage and see how people are living....in WB left is ruling....there is no role of police...so understand the situation....karats is just anti indian just like mirzafar
Make no mistake - I am no fan of the CPIM nor of their rutty state level pseudo-politics. But this unique nonagenarian has proved again that he is a master class. You can not but admire the brilliance and firmness of his political brain. Probably we never had the best prime minister of our country that we could have had!
RE:nuclear deal and jyoti basu's comments
by pp R on Sep 21, 2007 07:01 PM Permalink
U are wrong , nabanita .. what jyoti basu is saying now is only to save face and retreat on the stand taken by his party regarding the nuclear deal .. every body in India wants development and even the bengalis have deserted CPIM on the nuclear issue .. so this is jyoti's face saving tactics .. regarding your comment that we never had best PM, I take it that U wanted Jyoti to be the PM of India .. we would have been doomed if Jyoti would have become the PM .. he has totally ruined West Bengal during his rule as the CM and he would have taken India back by another 30-40 years if he would have become the PM .. God save us all from the leftists who are not concerned about the growth and development of our country but just want to appease their Chinese masters ... shame on Karat/Yechuri and his other leftist friends .. what a pity that although India is a country of rich heritage, history and culture, these leftists don't have their own truly Indian Ideology and have to follow the communism and Marx & lenin and their chinese comrades for their day to day livelihood ...
RE:nuclear deal and jyoti basu's comments
by jay krishnan on Sep 22, 2007 02:35 AM Permalink
You guys need to learn a lot about the quality of life of people in WB and Kerala before you can shoot your mouth off most learnedly. Mere presence of huge industries with few people mainly foriegners making shit loads of money to take home to their families while using up the native state resources and increasing local pollution and thus effecting the health of local people and doling out a few coins to the native workers and keep them uninformed nor make them part of management or strategy or profit sharing, while the spoils are shared by a select few with industries mushrooming up all over with < 0.1% of population owning and profiting from these businesses and while the gap between haves and havenots is longer than the great wall of China and the impoverished keep getting poorer and the grass roots are neglected while it serves only a few backboneless software coolies, raising up real estate prices such that a decent house is beyond the reach of the common man or senselessly spend their western licked earned dollars thus raising the inflation on the price of essential goods through the roof for the common man, whose greedy and selfish nature is legendary, and ship abandoning skills that would make a possom proud, Or the rich few who have no religion or patriotism ( these so called 'global citizens') and who have forgotten how to speak their native language in their own homes) and who will sell their country off in a jiffy.. this is your idea of upliftment of people ?
RE:nuclear deal and jyoti basu's comments
by Vishnu Sharma on Sep 22, 2007 12:04 AM Permalink
Tell me something frankly. Are you blind and deaf at the same time ?
RE:nuclear deal and jyoti basu's comments
by halloindia on Sep 21, 2007 06:54 PM Permalink
Well said!! I too think he would have been the best prime minister.
RE:nuclear deal and jyoti basu's comments
by Chaitanya on Sep 21, 2007 07:00 PM Permalink
When he was CM of Bengal, once he was quoted to Say "Whom I would ask to work? Table, Chairs ? Yes this gentle man was better choice than anybody else.
RE:nuclear deal and jyoti basu's comments
by Prem Mohan on Sep 21, 2007 07:14 PM Permalink
Yes. Jyoti Basu deindustrialised West Bengal and would have done the same to India.
RE:nuclear deal and jyoti basu's comments
by Jayendra Bandyopadhyay on Sep 21, 2007 06:58 PM Permalink
Exactly!! Bengal's development was pathetic in his regime.
RE:nuclear deal and jyoti basu's comments
by halloindia on Sep 21, 2007 07:05 PM Permalink
Don't forget that 820 millions Indians all over India earns less than Rs 20 a day. So poverty is everywhere and this is not the topic off discussion
RE:Good living
by pp R on Sep 21, 2007 07:04 PM Permalink
Madhavan, if u do nothing in your life and eat simple daal roti, I assure U will also live upto 100 years of yr age .. there is nothing surprising in jyoti's age ...
