I was just wondering why the article says Lord Rama is a caring husband. Is there not an instance in Ramayana that Sita is asked/volunteers to walk through fire to prove her purity. If Lord Rama is an all knowing GOD, should he not stop such activity and his word should just suffice when he would say that his wife IS pure. If I am to follow Lord Rama's example, am I also expected to make/allow my wife go through tests in front of other people?
RE:Lord Rama a Caring husband?
by pervinder_s@yahoo.com on Sep 27, 2007 05:38 AM Permalink
OK Don't Follow RAM's Example ? Next time some Thugs kidnap her - Just tell them to keep her ? Don't bother to fight for her ?
RE:RE:Lord Rama a Caring husband?
by Perv Sharma on Sep 27, 2007 05:38 AM Permalink
i.e Next time some thugs kidnap your wife - just tell them to keep her ? OK
RE:RE:Lord Rama a Caring husband?
by Ashwin Asani on Sep 27, 2007 07:42 AM Permalink
Thanks for your response. Is one good enough to overlook another bad? I can be a macho husband and fight twenty thugs but in another place do something contrary to that character. Is that justified. Its a genuine clarification I need and am not trying to mock anyone. You need to try and understand that.
RE:Lord Rama a Caring husband?
by shubhankar sharma on Sep 27, 2007 11:21 AM Permalink
dear ashwin, even if u try you cannot mock the lord. dont have such grave misgivings. secondly to understand the concept behind agnipariksha, brains are required. it was NOT to denigrate sita,it was to redeem her honour. If your wife is kidnapped and kept by bandits for 2 years and then she comes back..YOU WILL CLIMB THE ROOF OF YOUR HOUSE AND SHOUT ON LOUDSPEAKER THAT SHE IS STILL UNTOUCHED. Otherwise YOU wont touch her brother. pretend as much as you want, but we all know the truth, dont we?
RE:Lord Rama a Caring husband?
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 27, 2007 09:32 AM Permalink
@ Ashwin
If you are a true seeker, then go back a few pages and some of the answers are in a long post that i copied and pasted, from Swami Chinmayananda on the Vedantic significance of the Ramayana.
If not, then only you can help yourself come out of ignorance and derision.
RE:Lord Rama a Caring husband?
by maino gandi on Sep 27, 2007 02:54 PM Permalink
perbinder will ask for remuneration for her,instead....the bas*RD IS NOT A HINDU..........HE IS A CONVERT IMPOSTER.........CUD BE XITIAN OR MUZZIE.
RE:Lord Rama a Caring husband?
by ramesh R on Sep 27, 2007 12:05 PM Permalink
First of all, before making comments on any thing, one should have thorough knowledge about the same. Before making such childish comments, better read Ramayana and understand the real values of life. I feel even if you read also, you will not understand a single Character in the Epic because you must be a child or Polititian.Only polititians thinks about their vote Bank and nothing else, even they are ready to sell/donate their Spouse/Children
RE:Lord Rama a Caring husband?
by Krishna on Sep 28, 2007 08:15 PM Permalink
Ur ignorance speaks loud. If you don't know complete Ramayana than don't raise Questions.. Rama has give Sita to Angidev when they entered forest as he was knowing whats going to happen.. Once everything was settled, he take her back. It was even shown in Ramayana on DD-I.. dude you should learn something before commenting on Ram.. Hey Ram, u are destined for Hell for sure. I can't even imagine how can one think like this against his own god..
It has become a fashion in India to criticise our own culture & historical idols. Why we are not proud of our oldest civilisation & idol like Rama. He is above all other religions existing today. Lord Rama belongs to all indians despite their existing religions. Lord Rama was existing many many years before the religions like Isalm, Christian, etc. were formed. Let us not make Lord Rama a subject of dispute. Lord Rama represents the symbol of our pride irrespective of our religion. Persons like Karunanidhi are the real infidels & have lost control over their conscious because of age. People will punish him in the next assembly elections. There is no need to give undue importance to Mr. Karunanidhi. He is a creature in garbage & don't make him hero by giving more importance to his foolish statements.
RE:Well written article!
by dinesh kumar on Sep 26, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
it has become a fashion to criticise karunanidhi. the members of the hindu religion should remember that karunanidhi belongs to a movement that rescued hinduism from decline by uplifting the oppressed classes and castes within hinduism. the oppressed classes are regaining their lost glory. without the rationalist movement,the oppressed classes would have en masse embraced other religions.
RE:Well written article!
by g sekhar on Sep 27, 2007 01:09 AM Permalink
don't narrow down your thinking to just one thing - he saved lower caste people from converting. the conversion rates in tamil nadu are not in any way lower than that of rest of India. what do u say ?? his actions relating to hinduism are akin to what constantine did to christianity long long back. :-)
RE:Well written article!
by ramesh R on Sep 27, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
If Karunanidhi doesn't believe Rama, why Allah and Jesus. Did Karuna witnessed the birth of Allah / Jesus. I am really sorry to drag Allah /Jesus. I have respect on other relegions.
RE:RE:Well written article!
by Umashankar Rukmangada on Sep 28, 2007 04:29 PM Permalink
You seem to be a staunch DMK follower.I wanted to use the first word in the abbreviation of DMK.But euphemism doesn't permit me to say so.... Why are you trying to blow things out of proportion.Every religion has its own problems and loopholes - be it judaism,islam or christianity.Sectarian violence prevails in every accepted religion on earth- be it Iraq or north Africa or anywhere. Go tell your NIDHI that people of India are not crazy, neither they have adopted oblivion because of growing age :-))
no religion is bigger then nation you are identified by your nationality anywhere in the world. national behavour is the recognation of the identy. religion issues are created by our politicains for their benefit and vote bank. we should respect each other dharma.it is personal choice of a individual. other part of the world call you indian not hindu/muslim etc.these bloody politicain are knowningly issue the statement to hurt sentiment of a particular commuity to create unrest in the country. we should keep our cool in the intrest od the country.
RE:nationality first
by Bhaumik on Sep 26, 2007 10:19 PM Permalink
OK Shubha Sharma,
Anyone who does not agree with your genocidal fundementalist views must be a Commie?
Grow up man. All liberal humanist persons are not Commies. In fact some of the forms of Communism (e.g. Stalinism) was as bad as your own religious extremism!
So get out of the notion that all liberal, good persons opposing your sectarian intolerance are Commies. There may be some concerned Communists who oppose your genocidal views. But the majority of us Indians who oppose your extremism are not all communists. Get the idea? good.
RE:nationality first
by shubhankar sharma on Sep 27, 2007 11:35 AM Permalink
no bhaumik i didnt get any idea. you were hopelessly confused and vague in your diatribe. I am also sure that you are also a commie. Secondly, how did you come to know that I am sectarian? just because I abused communism? It is because of spineless cowardly hindus like you, that our country remained enslaved for so long. people like you are traitors of the nation in garb of 'seculars' and 'liberals'. I strongly belive that the greates threat to India is not from AL QAIDA or ISI, it is from cowardly hindus like you. But dont worry, some jehadi bomb is waiting for you and your kids also in some bus, train or temple. Islamic bomb will not ask whether u were a commie or a coward. it will no distinguish between u andme. it will kill us both. AND ONE DAY YOUR KIDS WILL ASK YOU 'WHAT YOU WERE DOING DAD WHEN THE COUNTRY HAD JUST STARTED BURNING' Then you can tell them that yo were a coward, a pseudo secular liberal, a curse on this nation.
except for spewing venom against one another in these blogs , what else has happenned ? That idiot has spoken nonsense and would probably get away with that. he is speaking nonsense.. because Sri Rama does not require to prove his existence to atheists like Karunanidhi. Moreover Karunanidhi is just a leader of hooligans and mobsters that believe in arson, looting and violence to implement their agenda. In tamil nadu there are more temples than any other state, and a lot of people worship hindu deities. And what have these DMK cadres given this country or even tamilnadu? Not even one national leader, entrepreneur, sportsman of merit. Periyar and karunanidhi himself are compulsive womanisers. they are just trying to distract attention. He can be punished under Indian Penal code for hurting religious sentiments. What is his own authority/locus standi to question anything leave alone the existence of Rama ? And I guess people seem to have forgotten that this same chap was stripped and whipped by tamil nadu police some 4 years back ( under aiadmk rule) .. some similar wait awaits him even now
RE:But what has anyone done about karunanidhi?
by dinesh kumar on Sep 26, 2007 08:46 PM Permalink
if it were not for leaders like periyar and karunanidhi,the lower castes would still not be allowed into temples. the entire population of lower castes would have become frustrated with hinduism and ould have converted to other religions. periyar and karunanidhi gave shock treatment to hinduism and saved it.
RE:But what has anyone done about karunanidhi?
by g sekhar on Sep 27, 2007 01:08 AM Permalink
don't narrow down your thinking to just one thing - he saved lower caste people from converting. the conversion rates in tamil nadu are not in any way lower than that of rest of India. what do u say ?? his actions relating to hinduism are akin to what constantine did to christianity long long back. :-)
Balu must understand that route to Setusamundaram project is via Delhi and if Sonia will dare to give an O.K. for the project then party itself will lose elections in Hindi heartland.
Baalu says that if go ahead to break Ram-setu (for him it is Adam's bridge, he has custom clearance certificate of Adam)not given then people will break that. Go ahead and try. Then whatever properties you have in north can also be grabbed and your face can also be coloured black, you visit Delhi.
RE:Denying Ram is denying India
by Albert on Sep 26, 2007 04:06 PM Permalink
I appriciate this good brahmin He is learned and have lot of wisdom. True follower of sanathana dharma
RE:Muslims are shit
by Sachin Nair on Sep 26, 2007 04:23 PM Permalink
Who are Muslims? All Indian Muslims are essentially Converts. The Tughlaks, the Gengis Khans and their descendants from the Mughal era converted poor backward castes by force into Islam. Isnt it strange that our own people who are exactly like us in genetic make up, looks, lifestyles are against those who did not convert. A normal muslim guy in India will suddnely change his behaviour when he goes to middle east. He will grow a beard, offer namaz 5 times and abide strictly by rozas. I have seen this in Indian Muslims who come to Dubai/Muscat/Saudi/Qatar. The Arabs there not necessarily offer prayer 5 times a day or grows beard to show his muslim identity. I think Muslims in South Asia have an identity crisis. India accepted the division based on religious basis. The divided part established Islamic Republic, but India never established Hindu Republic, this inspite of the fact that it is the only hindu state after nepal. India gives full freedom to muslims here as much as hindus. The Problem is not with educated muslims, the muslim society has a big education and poverty problem and the other factor is the VOTE Bank problem. The Mullas have half knowledge of Quran and many young guys fall into their brainwashing ideas. Muslims will always be a part of India, there will always be tensions. The Muslim thinkers in India need to address root cause i.e. education for their people which will provide them economic opportunities thus bring down crimes conducted.
