RE:No to Nuclear Power by ASHOK on Sep 02, 2007 03:23 PM  Permalink You got to learn how to handle Nuclear waste. It is part of the game. Any way Radioactive stuff is lying scatterred on Earth and we have concentrated it in Reactor, got the Heat out, converted to electricity. If you are so much scared of Hazards than one day an Earth quake can come and you may die in your house. SO Go back to Jungle and live with Jungle elements.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:No to Nuclear Power by Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 03:37 PM  Permalink rightly said ashok.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:No to Nuclear Power by sharpshooter on Sep 03, 2007 02:52 AM  Permalink Foolishness has a limit. Radioactive stuff when in it's ore form is hardly radioactive enough to harm man. It's ony when it is refined and concentrated that it becomes radioactive enough to harm humankind. If only we spend one hundredth of the money we will spend on nuclear power plants, we can increase the distribution efficiency of our existing power lines and this would almost increase power delivered to consumers by one third. Also, countries like France which were predominantly Nuclear powered, are pulling out of it and looking for other forms of generating power. Yes, we Indians have this habit of going for anything which the developed world has scrapped. And did any of you know that none of our Nuclear Power Plants are running profitably? I can say this with confidence, having spent a good part of my life woking on systems which included Nuclear power generation.    Forward   |   Report abuse

RE:What Happens? by sankar narayanan on Sep 02, 2007 11:02 AM  Permalink yes of course Mr.Ishwar is correct. But one thing to be remembered is that in any country's history, if at any time they have contracted for any thing with the USA, then think that the country is basically gone. Because USA is such a country that it lacks the heart and soul and it behaves too radically--that even if the whole people of a country are dead, they want only those things which they wanted initially. With India also who knows what they have in their mind. For eg. what happend to the Dhabol Power Plant contract with the Former Enron. What a hue and cry was carried out. So with USA, we should be doubly cautious and not at all seen anchoring at or with them at any one point. Of course they are neither like the BRITISH or the RUSSIANS. They are just AMERICANS--THE COW BOYS with only madness as their asset. Nuclear energy we need, but with USA at what price? This is the question to be answered. If we are not careful, then we will become a country like ANGOLA, IRAQ, AFGHANISATAN etc. SO THESE WORDS OF CAUTION. y.f sankar.r.s. saudi arabia    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:What Happens? by shiva on Sep 02, 2007 11:44 AM  Permalink Hi,Sankar Your points are valid and make sense. The problem we face is that we overly dependent on the Middle East for our energy requirements. It can make us vulnerable anytime. Nuclear energy is diversifying our risks. How we protect our interests are to be left to our capable negotiating team. We are not party to all the details. China overcame all opposition to put up 18000mw three gorges dam. They had opposition to that, but they have a way to meet them effectively. As Deng used to say, it does not matter whether a cat is white or black, it has to catch mice. Now these huge hydro dams are keeping their economy buzzing. We are battling opposition to hydro projects for years, without any progress. Any initiative is just opposed. Why can't we look at in a positive way, if we do not have a better option? I feel inaction is worse than being worried about all consequences of any action. We have limited options. The leftists opposed all computerisation and see their stupidity. It is time we trust our skilled negotiaters who have done yeoman constructive work. We cannot also expect USA to give technology, fuel on a silver plate. If we have a better alternative, let the leftists put it up. Time to create than always destroy.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:What Happens? by ASHOK on Sep 02, 2007 03:33 PM  Permalink I agree with Shiva, we need Forward path. Time and again I say, we are not a baby , whose milk bottle will be taken back by USA. We know how to carry on if US / CANADA / AUSTRALIA back out. ( Whatever reasons) Right now we are already operating 8 reactors under IAEA safegaurds and we are getting Nuclear fuel. After 123 agreement our base will be widened and we can scale up our pace of construction of 1000 MW reactore with latest design as well as control instrumentation.    Forward   |   Report abuse

RE:Some Advices for Mr Bardan and Karat for you to maintain your anti US Stance by Transformers Transformers on Sep 02, 2007 12:02 PM  Permalink Absolutely correct. Lets dare the commies to give up everytn even remotely western, and thn we ll talk    Forward   |   Report abuse

RE:when will these idiots stop by p arjun on Sep 02, 2007 10:44 AM  Permalink stav, u know 90% scientists in your trusty institution are junk fellows, not doing any serious research. like that 99% of indian politicians are junk. also 99.99% of people including me in this messeage board are junk.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:when will these idiots stop by Tim on Sep 02, 2007 10:05 AM  Permalink These idiots are having a complex right now as their ideology is dying a nasty death. They have to keep cribbing and they are digging their own grave. Today Big bluff Karat has opened his lousy mouth one more time. Here is what he said today. Defence Framework Agreement with America would make India a %u201Csubordinate military ally of the United States.%u201D All these days when we went with defense framework agreement with Russia and kept buying their inferior MIGs he did not have any problem. Now the Russia themselves are kissing US's Butt he now has nothing to do. Also what does he want India to do? Have a defense framework with the Chineese. Nehru forgot about India while having a ball with Lady Mountbatten and now give way to China again so that they can take over more land? He is scared as the US-India partnership will make China small and he cannot see that happening. Watch our Karat, the chineese will soon shove it up your a55.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:when will these idiots stop by p arjun on Sep 02, 2007 10:43 AM  Permalink stav, u know 90% scientists in your trusty institution are junk fellows, not doing any serious research. like that 99% of indian politicians are junk. also 99.99% of people including me in this messeage board are junk.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:when will these idiots stop by shiva on Sep 02, 2007 11:01 AM  Permalink I wait for solutions from these no hoppers. Deng saw the failure of communist theories, as everybody wanted free lunches and the country sank into deep poverty. He realised wealth has to be created first to think of sharing. In communist systems, no incentive to work. The Chinese soon thrived overseas like the Indians. Yesterday, Bush gave an interview listing out his priorities. India did not figure in that. China was top in the list followed by Iraq, North Korea, Climate change etc. We are important only if we want to be. Otherwise, we will go like Africa, a dark continent despite its vast natural resources. Death due to starvation is given and nobody bats an eye. I want the supporters of leftists to list out their achievements in West Bengal & Kerala. For most, it is Mother Theresa and the millions who left Kerala to eke out a living to support families back home. While these leftists free loaders were protecting the "rights" of unionised workers, their pay masters the poor, were working in horrble conditions and many became strangers in their own homes, when they finally returned. The poor became poorer and these free loaders had no clue about productive ventures and thriving in chaos. The progress that we see now are due to the returning natives, who try to start ventures despite opposition from these defeatists. What future can they promise? Take a walk down Shangahi & Beijing and stay there. You can be satisfied at the success of your system!    Forward   |   Report abuse

RE:open debate on this issue - 123 agreement by stav on Sep 02, 2007 09:52 AM  Permalink Thorium ha ha ha... do you know the main research project for BARC is thorium, in the last 40 years of its existence we have not got one step ahead. So forget it. I dont know how they come up with figures like 2015 ?    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:open debate on this issue - 123 agreement by Indian JaiHind on Sep 02, 2007 09:47 AM  Permalink Man, what you should understand here is 'It is not as easy as Extracting Energy from your COW's Dung'. It requires substantial technology to extract energy from this materials like Thorium etc. That is what US agreed to help with us , transfter of whatever technology to make Nuclear power affordable. You should understand that US was the country who exploded an atom bomb in Japan when we were thinking about making GUND(A deewali Fataka). They are at least 30 Years of Technology than any country in the earth.    Forward   |   Report abuse

RE:Indian left parties will never change until people dump them! by Ganapati Hegde on Sep 02, 2007 09:37 AM  Permalink You have hit the nail on the head. These commies, only know hold our country backward. For the initial 40 years, Nehru and his perpetual dynasty held the country back, then the leftists tried to stifle growth. I think the leftists dont cater to Indian interests, but the chinese interests. China is already nervous about the nuclear deal , and are using the commies to scuttle India's growth. As Mr.ManMohan Singh rightly pointed out, this nuclear deal is possible because of the friendlist US President, George Bush, because of which the nuclear deal is going forward. India has shown, what it can achieve in the economic field, because of liberalizing its economic policies. We are No.1 in the IT field. Down with the Communists, the dying ideology, which is gasping its last breath.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Indian left parties will never change until people dump them! by Peter Parker on Sep 02, 2007 09:54 AM  Permalink Hegde economic liberalization has nothing to do with the nuclear deal. Its basically the kangress party and especially MMS that has failed to deliver on the second tranche of reforms. So much for being the champion of reforms, it was PVNR's steel that allowed the first tranche to happen and the economy we see is a result of that.    Forward   |   Report abuse
RE:Indian left parties will never change until people dump them! by shiva on Sep 02, 2007 11:19 AM  Permalink Hi Parker, It is easy to criticise MMS, but have you given any thought to the balancing act he has to go through? His supporters are not only the leftists but also Karunanidhi, who extracts a very heavy pound of flesh and was also hitting MMS below the belt. The only alternative for MMS is to hell with it, but he tries his best to complete the term, despite the blackmail of all and sundry. The alternative is BJP with again leftists and how are they going to solve the energy problem. The problem that we face cannot be resolved by a change in govt, as nobody will support India without the backing of USA. While USA can be a convenient whipping boy, our terror situation would have been worse without USA standing up to that. PVNR was in a different situation as our earlier policies bankrupted us. The only way was up and the leftists were lying low. Now their stomachs are full again and the little fellow up (may be down also), their brain, is overactive. They think they can get more seats, forget about "national interests", as party is more important than nation. The nation can wait.    Forward   |   Report abuse