India is growing but not at the speed of china. China atracts foreign investment of $ 30 billion every year while we get only 3 billn $. Truth is indians are much more intelligent than chinees. Only problem is, infrastructure. Indian society is not working unitedly on this isuue. And of course job skills. Not torturous education which we give to our children, that is useless. China is working on both these points. No body will be surprised if china become super power like america in next 5-10 years. And then we can be deep problem since china is ruled by military.
RE:India should grow like china
by on Oct 26, 2007 09:01 AM Permalink
man have you ever met 10, 2 or even 1 chinese (and not chinees) in your life to make a broad statement about their intelligence.
RE:India should grow like china
by Thiruppathi Ramanathan on Oct 26, 2007 09:28 AM Permalink
I agree with you. Chinese are really good at what they are doing. They are behind Indians in IT, but they are catching up... Even Indians are setting up companies in China. Anyways, Nuclear Power is all about safety. We need good technology for that. Support of well established countries should be welcome. Why re-invent wheel?
RE:India should grow like china
by alex on Oct 27, 2007 06:56 PM Permalink
China is able to grow fast if you speak out bad about anything decided by communist party leadership , you will be dead meat
Rajiv Gandhi is not ready yet and so they can not go for elections yet. Who cares about India. Certainly not Dr MMS at this point. He has become a poodle.
mr. anil kumar is wrong to assume that singh deserves credit for the economic reforms. it was narsimha rao who showed the pluck. mm singh was a political nobody to show any pluck then, and he is a political nobody now to be able to show any pluck. the guy survives on favors bestowed on him by a checkmated sonia who is still fiddling with india to find an opening to make her way thr'. congress would have resigned if it had an ounce of feeling for indian interest. congress has only one goal: loot the treasuries for the next 7 generations of gandhis.
RE:wrong asuumptions
by hanek singh on Oct 26, 2007 06:24 AM Permalink
manmohan singh was always a typical indian babu and will remain so .narasimha rao showed guts ordered babu followed them .he does not have the genes to be great leader . do not blame singh he has no followers in congress.
Followig from The Economist magazine (in the past this magazine has criticised the deal as being too generous to India): Mr Singh told an audience of visitors... ...competitive politics and fractured mandates have made it %u201Cdifficult sometimes for us to do what is manifestly obvious%u201D.. So the agreement Mr Singh negotiated with America seems likely to be sacrificed by a government mainly interested in staying in power. Mr Singh recently seemed poised to resign. But he now seems to shrink from this %u201Cmanifestly obvious%u201D response to his predicament.
Resign Manmohan resign!! It is the "manifestly obvious" step after your shameful capitulation to the Left blackmail. Manmohan would continue enjoying his perks of PM position while India will get the sc**wed for the pusillanimity of India's cowardly PM and his self-serving master.
RE:The price of pusillanimity
by Pradip Parekh on Oct 26, 2007 01:00 AM Permalink
you nailed it. most indians would love to see this govt make an exit so bjp can come to power and sew up the deal while it is still a viable opportunity. congressis have proved one more time - we have lost the count long ago - that it is the party of self-centered, tickskinned corrupt sobs.
RE:The price of pusillanimity
by ravikanth on Oct 26, 2007 02:20 AM Permalink
BJP was against the deal. Congress is the only party interested in deal. Even if elections are held today Congress may win 180 seats and UPA may touch 240. Then also they need left support.
RE:The price of pusillanimity
by kartavya on Oct 26, 2007 03:02 AM Permalink
F**K BJP.....do u think they ll do ny good, didnt even retaliate against terrorism when they attacked our parliament under US pressure....had most violent riots n kargil war during their time.....the party which divided our nation, how culd u even think o bringing that party in power, M not a congress supporter, but byfar they r better than atleast BJP
RE:The price of pusillanimity
by Jit Dutta on Oct 26, 2007 05:34 AM Permalink
No I don't think this article "nailed" it for BJP. BJP would have been most happy with the same deal had they been in power instead of UPA. Now BJP is acting in the most opportunistic manner and come up with some convoluted lame excuse to oppose the deal for the sake of opposition. If BJP was patriotic it would have made an open offer to work with the govt in mitigating the aspects which it finds objectionable as opposed to current stance of helping the Left nuke the entire deal.
Know this much, this treachery would go down in history as an act of rank opportunism when BJP didn't hesitate to team up with downright anti-India CPIM to snuff out resurgent India's a dreams just so that Congress can look bad and BJP can come back to power riding on the anti-Congress sentiments from the fallout of the deal's failure.
RE:The price of pusillanimity
by Pradip Parekh on Oct 26, 2007 06:09 AM Permalink
it amazing to me that indian people see things in black and white. is it so hard for you figure that congress has closed all doors of co-operation with the bjp? congressi have been badmouthing and cussing bjp every opportunity it gets. mm singh's tirade on gujarat was only the latest. can you get yourself to understand that the ruling party is congress, the party at the helm for this nuke deal badly negotiated. thus, it is the duty of congress to marshal support for the deal, and approach the members of parliament. how do you think bill clinton gotos his programs thr' u.s. house of reps and the senate? he called every member of the house. he did not call republicans racist, did he, unlike the congressis who call bjp communalists? know this: bjp is far less communal than the republicans are racists, and yet democrat hardly ever bring up race card - hell, even the balck democrat don't do that except when obvious.
the other thing is bjp's oppostion is very well articulated. it started the process and it knows where congressis failed to negotiate right. face it, the congressi can't negotiate even when the bjp handed it to them on a platter. my comment stands.
RE:The price of pusillanimity
by on Oct 26, 2007 07:45 AM Permalink
Its laughable to compare US house of reps to Indian parliament where every political party is busy looking after their electoral interest national interest be damned. In the US there is a age old tradition of parties rising above narrow partisan interest because national interest does matter come election time in the US. Left doesn't care a hoot about national interest, BJP knows that most people doesn't quite understand the implications of this deal and Indians are used to having opposition parties who oppose for the sake of opposition; so BJP has little to lose and much to gain from Congress bungling. Based on your assertions it seems you are opposed to Congress which is perfectly fine, but it seems your opposition to Congress is blinding you to the merits of the deal. You need to separate the deal from Congress party and view the deal in larger national interest.
Finally, BJP by publicly offering to work with the govt on the deal stands to gain a lot of goodwill and if Congress refused to be reasonable in working with BJP on the issue then it stands to look petty and selfish. Think about it.
Hi Rediff, It seems like you have lost sense. Yesterday u wrote that Dr. Kalam, who was mentioned as "the father of India's nuclear program" said that India should concentrate on using Thorium as a fuel in the long run and concentrate on the breeder reactor that converts Thorium into fissile material. I consider that as an opinion that we DO NOT REALLY NEED THE NUCLEAR DEAL.
And going by what US has done to its 3rd World 'allies' like Pakistan in the past. I would really not go for it. Like Microsoft, the US will make India dependant on its products and India will lose the importance of its scientific community. The urgency of the US in pushing the deal also concerns me. The government should pay heed to the former President that it notoriously prevented from taking a 2nd term, and not go for the deal.
RE:Thorium
by RP on Oct 26, 2007 01:01 AM Permalink
Agreed! Instead, invest the munny on our R&D to develop thorium based nuclear reactors. Atleast we don't have to depend on USA (and thus get blackmailed) for nuclear fuel, as we have 25% of world's thorium reserves.
RE:Thorium
by Makarand Narawane on Oct 26, 2007 01:53 AM Permalink
Thorium based is dream that is away by 7-8 years by Dr Kalam's estimate. In reality it is probably 10-15 years away. How many of you who oppose this deal are willing to leave without electricity for next 10 years so that government can divert all the electricity to the industry. Or we do not want any more growth? We need lots more electricity and that too very quickly. Coal fired, gas fired is not an option in long term. Hydro is very limited going forward. Nuclear is the way forward. And people who refuse to understand this are just burying their heads in the sand
RE:Thorium
by on Oct 26, 2007 07:58 AM Permalink
To get an idea of a realistic time frame for Thorium based commercial scale Fast Breeder Reactor, one has to just look at the history of indigenous Main Battle Tanks or fighter aircraft, each of them are about 20 to 30 years behind schedule. Thorium based FBR is more complicated than either of those items. And then get an idea of the availability of that holy grail called Tu based FBR.
They are Richest Party in India(5000 crore)- own channels, Newspaper, Resots , Amusment Parks etc They are not against development.eg:
Smart city is build by Dubai media city in Kochi Kochi Port build by Dubai Ports Vizhingam port (chinese company got contract, but rejected by Center - may select one Russian company) Titanium Factory (Russian company will Get contract)
But they are only against being a Junior Partner of US - Supported By Left - so he should Follow the polices of Left - Otherwise resign American Puppet!
RE:Communist party - not against Development
by Cool Customer on Oct 26, 2007 12:54 AM Permalink
WOw- I am impressed. That is development? Yeah lets have the left in and drain whatever we have earned to second rated nations for second rated products.
These desh drohi, Chinese-Paki supporter Lefties are playing politics on those brave Indian army , laid their body in 1962 War. Now onward they are claiming Indian land. These mother f**ker lefties are their agent.
RE:Left are playing politics on the chest of brave Indian Army
by Suresh Potdar on Oct 26, 2007 12:10 AM Permalink
I wish all Indians are belonging to your tribe to remember, understand, use and pay back for the supreme sacrifices of our defence forces for lat 60 years. Unfortunately none the political non-Congrss Governments had any time, peace or inclination to do that and the 45 plus years of Conress rule is for protecting dynesty, filling up stomachs, wooing and appeasing the Muslims to remaining power and such other acts of low mentality. What do you expect the end result ? All those who sent their dear ones to defend the country think that this country is not worth defending- hand it over to the Communist bafoons.
