People who have committed crimes against unarmed civilians in eastern Europe have been tried in the International Court of Justice and sentenced. Modi's crime is also of the same nature and scale. The Gujrath carnage is a clear indication of the failure of state machinery to protect unarmed civilians. Nobody need expose BJP; the very comments apperaring in its favour on rediff is a clear indication of an emerging fascist force that will do anything to further its agenda of religious fundamentalism. India is adrift ideologically. Only a strong leader like Nehru/Sardar Patel can stem this tide of increasing communalisation of polity and politics. At the ground level the saffron activists are lumpen elements; at the top are pseudo intellectuals -- a lethal combination as far as minorities are concerned. One only hopes that the Supreme Court steps in to uphold the rule of law by punishing the guilty, be they ever so highly placed. We are living in a globalised world and the consequences of that are inescapable. Eventually Modi will stand trial when international pressure builds up. The US denial of visa was a small step in the right direction. One admires the courage of Tehelka and Teesta Setelvad in times like this to risk their life and reputation in defence of the truth..
While your points are sound and your principles are clear, I would like you to ponder on why people from Western Europe have never been tried for the innumerable crimes that they have committed. Why hasn't someone from Western Europe been tried for crimes against humanity, prrof being the millions of children that have died so far in Iraq? Closer home, wonder why a Tehelka or Teesta Setalvad does not show "courage" in exposing Congress hands in '84 Anti-Sikh pogrom? Or why Tehelka or Teesta Setalvad does not go to Bengal and expose CPIM atrocities in Nandigram massacre(that too where Muslims have greatly suffered)? Is it because they are afraid of getting royally thulped or is it because they are basically Nehruvian in their attitude and believe only BJP can be monsters? As for your view on Congress party being responsible for Gujarat's current progress, what prevented Congress from creating this progress before Modi? Were they devoid of ideas or brains all along? What prevented them from taking India forward through more than 50 years that they were ruling? Modi does not promote acute sycophancy, Modi does not promote dynastic politics and then have the stupid immaturity to preach "meritocracy". If India is still a developing country, the Congress party and it's narrow-minded, artificially secular and opportunistic politics are to blame. Among the Congress' decaying cobwebs, a rare & decent exception called Manmohan Singh is stuck and floundering.
RE:Well Done!!
by . on Nov 27, 2007 10:26 PM Permalink
rightly said. these r all the ppl with vested interests getting funding from not merely congress but also from abroad. they r doing the same thing. highlighting the wrong things of guj, and suppressing the same thing happening in other states ruled by cong/cpm. this kind of biased reporting erases their bonafideness of the news.
The development you are seeing in Gujarat is not the handwork of BJP. India is developing very fast. This is because of the good reforms brought by Mr. Man mohan singh 10 years back. The speed of the development is same, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Punjab was the best developing states in India due to their better resources. Still they are most developed states... and other states follows.. But now Karnataka and Tamil Nadu is growing fast.
So dont think that the development is occuring in gujarat is due to Modi.. It is due to Mr. Man Mohan Singh and congress govt. in centre and for Gujarat the Reliance played a great role.
Yes, why should MODI win?? There is no valid reason for Modi - or BJP to win.
Because Gujarat:
* Does not want to get the dubious distinction of being branded as a state of Religious Fanatics
* Does not need a 'dictator' to achieve peace, progress and prosperity
* Does not want a leader who is not welcomed by dozens of developed countries of the world; Gujarat very much needs and wants to be a part of the global society, the global economy. In these times of rapidly increasing globalisation, Gujarat needs a leader with a truly international standing, and not someone who is internationally notorious.
While Modi repeatedly boasts of '5 crore Gujaratis' in front of the media every time he gets an opportunity to do so, everybody knows that in reality, he is only a bedfellow to 5 rich business houses. His sole concern is to make them richer, and nothing else.
Modi will win and should win, because he has taken Gujarat towards progress in 5 years. This is much more than what Congress did all the while they were in power. Forget Godhra, forget the riots that followed, forget Modi's attitude towards Muslims. If one were to look only at those riots, we need to compare with all the riots that happened since independence, 99% of which happened when Congress was in power and did nothing. What has Congress given towards Muslims except fake sympathy and pseudo support? Most Muslims in India live in UP, Bihar, Gujarat, W.Bengal, Kerala & Maharashtra, which have been ruled by so called "secular" parties most of the time. Yet, most Muslims remain in deep shit and abandoned by these false parties. At least, Modi does not hide behind "secular" screens. His single minded pursuit of development has surely taken Gujarat forward and one must give credit where it is due. Credit him for his development mantra, his no-nonsense approach to terrorism, his firm approach towards Gujarat's problems. If he is judged only by Godhra riots, then Congress and Marxists are surely the worst among the bad. Modi did not have thousands of Sikhs raped, looted, set on fire and murdered. Modi was not responsible for Nandigram. Modi was not responsible for the problems in Punjab & Kashmir. Among today's politicians, he seems the most straight forward and dynamic, irrespective of who likes him or not. Good for Gujarat that they have a guy like him.
RE:Gujarat & Modi...
by Tataghata Mukherjee on Nov 27, 2007 03:16 PM Permalink
The development you are seeing in Gujarat is not the handwork of BJP. India is developing very fast. This is because of the good reforms brought by Mr. Man mohan singh 10 years back. The speed of the development is same, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Punjab was the best developing states in India due to their better resources. Still they are most developed states... and other states follows.. But now Karnataka and Tamil Nadu is growing fast.
So dont think that the development is occuring in gujarat is due to Modi.. It is due to Mr. Man Mohan Singh and congress govt. in centre and for Gujarat the Reliance played a great role.
RE:Gujarat & Modi...
by . on Nov 27, 2007 10:29 PM Permalink
ppl in maharashtra r the ones facing load shedding of power n even cities like mumbai (so-called shanghai makeover by the PM 'mannu') is not spared not to talk of remote rural areas. this is the development of congress ruled states. its the blind propaganda of ppl who r anti-modi n anti-gujarat who sees everything wrong in gujarat.
RE:Gujarat & Modi...
by Venkat N on Nov 28, 2007 07:38 PM Permalink
A large part of the credit for development in India goes to the strong and focussed government we had between 1998 and 2004. This was the period when the Indian industry regained its confidence and we started moving forward towards a revival, even when the US sanctions were on.
Mamta Banerjee of Trinamool Congress could not get a space for her footsteps in West Bengal for last 30 years. People must try to bring secular India and let the communal leaders sit outside.
RE:Mamta Banerjee of Trinamool Congress could not get a space for her footsteps in West Bengal for last 30 years. People must try to bring secular India and let the communal leaders sit outside.
by Venkat N on Nov 28, 2007 07:39 PM Permalink
Why post about Mamta and Bengal here in a debate on Gujarat comrade ? Why are you bringing east to west ? Or is it the regular Communist habit that you always talk about something totally unrelated to the current topic ??
Modi's hindutva is fake!!Everybody knows,he is a arrogant & selfminded politician!! We are all hindu who lives in India,Hindu not a single word!!Hindu is a vast & great word!! Hindu not a community or nor a religion!!I think Modi & RSS & co does not know hindu meaning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:Hindutva Means What????
by . on Nov 27, 2007 10:27 PM Permalink
yes dear. since last one month same kind of copy n paste messages on all the pages daily n repeatedly. his contract ends on formation of new guj govt led by modi.
If the election is held free from money power and muscle power, the Left will come in power even in Gujarat also, though no more presence of left parties is in Gujarat.
RE:Modi headed BJP and Opposition Congress.
by Venkat N on Nov 28, 2007 07:40 PM Permalink
What ? The Left can not win even in Bengal if the elections are held without their cadre power.
BJP is an out and out terrorist party in the guise of a political Party. That is the truth and every body knows this truth. BJP is a party of very old, rotten, alcoholic snakes. They can create havoc in the country for getting into power. Their card is Ram, and not development. India is the only country in the world which has such a naive innocent public who fall for the ugly and sinful guiles of the BJP. God save India from this militant communal party BJP. So no BJP in India. Kick them OUT!
RE:Say No!!
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Nov 27, 2007 01:09 PM Permalink
Irony for you minorities is: ITS MODI WHO IS TALKING ABT DEVELOPMENT, AND PSUEDOS ARE TALKING ABT RIOTS!
Muslims and Christians are openly rallying religiously and appealed by psueod. That is secular.
Why Hindus will NOT do the same? Why will they allow minorities to derive MORE RIGHTS, DISPROPORTIONATE POLITICAL POWER? Huh?
RE:Say No!!
by zhatu on Nov 27, 2007 01:27 PM Permalink
You cannot stop fundamentalism with peace. If one side is fundamentalist it has to be countered by fundamentalism and it will naturally get support from common man. Mind you BJP will never win on RAM and Ayodhya any more.. unless muslim appeasement reaches a high point again. You start overappeasing Muslims on basis of religion Hindu religion will start getting support.
I m from Gujarat and can inform you that PPL have left behnd Godhara. The voting will be on the issues of development. Modi is going to win, following are the reasons, 1. Gujarat's GDP is 11.5 against national GDP somewhere around 10. 2. Gujarat is the favourite direct foreign investment destination, the investors are not fooled by the false propaganda against Modi. 3. Gujarat is the only Electricity surplus state in all India. 4. Least unemploymet. 5. development all around. 6. Modi does not have close relatives like congress and gandhi family. 7. Modi is non corrupt. 8 Previous Govt was stable for five years 9. Oposite to popular belief there is not a single communal riot after 2002. PPL feel safe under Modi's regime. 10. Modi is BEST CM, certified by agency affliated by Sonia Gandhi What ever pseudo secularists say or do, Mpodi will win this election, not becuse of his communal stand but because of development achieved under him.
The need of the hour is to keep BJP away at any cost. The real fears for India are division of India based on religion, which the BJP, RSS, VHP, Bajrangi's are aspiring to do. You can see that wherever BJP has ruled they have killed the minorities, incited the people to kill each other in the name of GOD. Whereas the people who died were all from the lower castes, the Brahmins who decide the policies for these organisations are always free pouring the poison in the society.
The thought of BJP in power is really scary. What will they do ? In the name of RAM and Hindutva, they will start civil war in India. All works for peace & prosperity will be stalled and the only work they will start is pouring poison in the Indian society and inciting people to kill each other. This helps them as Brahmins remain at top and the lower castes keep on fighting in the name of RAM.
