Patience people !!! 1st it was reservation to backward sections , 2nd is the reservations to Minorities based on religion. Let us come up with a new reservation think innovative. NEW RESERVATION : TO THE FORWARD CLASS, SINCE NONE OF THE EARLIER RESERVATIONS CATERS TO THEM THEY ARE THE SUPPRESSED AND OPPRESSED CLASS SINCE PAST MANY YEARS NOW AND ARE GETTING MORE SUPPRESSED AT ALMOST EVERY NEW ELECTION TIME . SO NEW SUPPRESSED CLASS reservations !! anybody care to suggest the percentage ??
RE:Think Innovative , Suggest More New Resrvations
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 06, 2007 04:34 PM Permalink
There already is reservation for poor Brahmins (Group E) I think
RE:RE:Think Innovative , Suggest More New Resrvations
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 06, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
sorry, I should have closed the bracket at the end of the sentence and not as above
RE:RE:RE:Think Innovative , Suggest More New Resrvations
by Yogesh on Mar 06, 2007 04:47 PM Permalink
I am suggesting the new reservations for all the suppressed class , not just for POOR BRAHMINS. with all the suppressed class ( presently suppressed forward castes )getting reservations we will include the CREAMY layer and non creamy layer also. My suggestions to people who want to be politicians . PLEASE fight for these new reservations . Creamy or non creamy layer , give reservations to all , keep your SEAT in the government and milk the population of the country to get YOUR CREAM . Shamless creatures these politicians. Inkey bachhon ko kabhi reservations ki chinta nahi hoti islye yeh log public ki mar rahey hai.
Youths will split in two groups becoz of this. Just read the messages here and find how they are fighting to show they are right.what is output.....can we face global competition like this deviding us.Now person sitting in Berlin(Germany) is fighting for his job with person sitting in Pune. world is become too closer and we are separating us on caste basis.
Last year in Pune two rallies were orgnized by youths one was supporting reservation and other was antireservation. they had thrown stones on each other...what is direction for young INDIA..... Only way is provide the reservation or scholerships on economic background irrespective of caste...Otherwise we will fight and argu each other other will countries will beat us.
RE:It will split the youth in two groups which is very dangerous....
by Hebbar R on Mar 06, 2007 06:21 PM Permalink
Good suggestion. Only point is that the man who started this divide is confortably sitting in his AC House and enjoying political clout and probably laughing at his own ingenuity of political one-upmanship.
I read in the Newspapers that the Central Government has allocated 15% of its fund for muslim welfare. The Union Rural Development Ministry (headed by Dr.Raghuvansh Prasad Singh) has identified 3 programmes which will benefit the community i.e. Indira Awas Yojana (IAY), Sampoorna Grameen Rozgar Yojana (SGRY) and Swarnajayanti Gram Swarozgar Yojana (SGSY). In fact the Central Government has made a 15 point programme for them. The Minority Affairs Minister, AR Antulay, has announced that the Sachar Committee report will be implemented %u201Cin toto in 2007%u201D and since the Minority Affairs Ministry is the nodal agency for implementation of the 15 point programme, it has advised the Rural Development Ministry to earmark funds for muslims. In turn the Rural Development Ministry has already earmarked Rs.581 crore against which 2.3 lakh houses will be constructed for poor muslims, under Indira Awas Yojana (IAY). Banks are also under pressure to give loans that obviously will not be recovered. I am also appalled at the way some Members of Parliament want to reserve Government jobs & seats for Higher Education for Muslims, just because they want their votes, stating they have been found to be 'backward' by the Sachar Committee report. The reason for the majority of Muslims in India becoming 'backward' is the number of children they produce. In France, the French Government decided to provide housing for everyone in the 1960s' & they did fulfil that promise, but while the people from other Religious backgrounds have found that to be enough, the Muslims (predomenantly from North Africa) now feel that it is not enough, simply because they have been producing too many children. The same is going to happen in India, if Muslims are given reservation or houses are constructed for them as proposed. One can only imagine how efficient the people in Government jobs or people who get educated with a 'reserved' seat will be. In fact, one can already see how a Doctor/Lawyer who got educated with a 'reserved' seat who tries one's hand at private practice fails miserably, because of their lack of knowledge. Rolling back reservation for muslims will also be dangerous, because of the riots that ensue - riots happen even in places like today's partisan Gujarat, when Muslim shrines are razed. Religion based reservation/house construction will also bring about large scale conversion to that religion. Please file a Public Interest Litigation in the Delhi High Court against this 15 point programme or else Manmohan Singh (despite being a follower of Guru Gobind Singh) will become Aurangzeb II (& India will soon become an Islamic Republic). Thanking you, Yours faithfully, Dr.Ramanand
RE:India soon to become an Islamic Republic, if no one acts
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 06, 2007 04:17 PM Permalink
People the world over are accepting things like Meditation and the things it can do like stress control, Memory & Concentration improvement, finding a most satisfying job without much effort, speed reading, remote viewing/seeing places far away (sitting wherever one is - with eyes closed), Telepathy (mind reading/sending messages), smoking control, losing/gaining weight, improving confidence, regressing to a past life (especially to solve problems that one has in this life related to a past life), finding lost objects, getting answers for the unsolvable, getting whatever through guided visualization (a car, a house, money etc.), E.S.P. (Clairvoyance, Sixth sense, Intuition etc.) and so on, but all this will be wiped out by Islam. If any one wants, they can contact me on dr_ramanand@rediffmail.com for more info about how to develop these skills
RE:India soon to become an Islamic Republic, if no one acts
by cheruvil george on Mar 06, 2007 03:48 PM Permalink
That's predicted in the coming 50 years whether one accepts or not. As an Egyptian friend said while I was in Saudi, everyone will convert to Islam by will or force nearer the doomsday !!
RE:RE:India soon to become an Islamic Republic, if no one acts
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 06, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
If someone files a PIL/writ petition, I'm sure we can avoid such a scenario in India
RE:RE:RE:India soon to become an Islamic Republic, if no one acts
by Yogesh on Mar 06, 2007 04:26 PM Permalink
Patience people !!! 1st it was reservation to backward sections , 2nd is the reservations to Minorities based on religion. Let us come up with a new reservation think innovative. NEW RESERVATION : to the forward class , bcos none of the earlier reservations caters to them and they are suppressed class now. so SUPPRESSED CLASS reservations !! anybody care to suggest the percentage ??
RE:RE:India soon to become an Islamic Republic, if no one acts
by ANIL SAMAL on Mar 06, 2007 04:19 PM Permalink
While I read what Bush did at Iraq I feel sorry. But when I read articles or comments like this I feel its needed.
RE:India soon to become an Islamic Republic, if no one acts
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 06, 2007 03:44 PM Permalink
I am not anti-muslim, but I am certainly against the divide and rule policy of Manmohan Singh
RE:India soon to become an Islamic Republic, if no one acts
by Hebbar R on Mar 06, 2007 06:25 PM Permalink
Sir you are sop right. If we see all that the pro-reservation politicians are saying, you will note than not one has assured that they will get themselves and their family treated bya Doctor who has was a beneficiary of reservation. They have the political power to be sent to the west for availing the best of treatments.
It is incorrect to say that discrimination and resultant denial of equal opportunities based on caste is the cause for the present day social disparities. Those who are smart have got what they wanted despite difficulites and denial of equal opportunities. The solution to this problem is not in denying opportunites to the deserving but to improve the standards of primary and secondary education all over the country so that all get equal training at the lower level to compete on a level field . If that occurs and if 100% of the seats in the higher institutions are grabbed by lower castes, no one would and should cry.
What reservation? Let the guys compete and come out on merit.
Let there be a level playing field. Mabe we could have a differential fee structure depending upon the economical status of a person, but why make reservations etc?
Common Guys, We cannot anymore take the caste system. This is 21st century.Grow up!! British Raj would not have done so harm as the caste system has done. Could someone explain me how the current political system is any better than British Raj. British raj also used to Divide and Rule and so are the political parties today.Infact the current political parties have groomed up and nurtured under the banner of castes. Appease the hindus, appease the muslims, Appease the Sc's and the ST's, get more and more sub castes into reservation policy to secure votes. I can say that none of the political parties have any character or Morals. Why cant we young people shun this caste system. And we all as one come out with a new political party. We just keep cursing the system. Why can't we change it. Action is needed. Take small action plans like educating a few people in your proximity. Having a discussion with children at senior secondary level, at colleges. Revolutionise the anti caste philosophy. We can do it!!
No body is against uplifting the poor to which ever cast they belong. It is also a fact that an overwhelming majority of poor belong to certain SC, ST, and BC's . They need special previlages like reservations, scholarships and so on. But what is shameful is those who availed of reservations and have become IAS, IPS and other higher positions also claim reservations for their children. It is these who show/parade their brothern , argue for reservations and then corner all the benifts for them selves. If this is the status even if you provide reservations for next two centuries real poor will remain poor and will resutlt is a system of reversed aparthed. The following guidelines should be followed if the aim of reseervations is to help the really disadvantaged 1. Reservations should be given only for one genration 2. Children of officers belonging to SC, ST and BC should not be given this benifit. 3 Empasis should be more on capacity building of these castes than on reservations in the long run 4. Disadvantaged among higher castes if they happen to be economically backward should be given this benifit. 5. Judiciary should have the final say in deciding the appropriateness of a policy concerning reservations- This is to prevent vote bank politics
RE:RE:This is all vote bank politics
by ashok setty on Mar 06, 2007 04:14 PM Permalink
Absolutely right, I am with Anand. Reservation should be on economic status, not on caste.
RE:This is all vote bank politics
by Uday Shankar on Mar 06, 2007 03:42 PM Permalink
Correct. Then reservation should not be taken out. But it should be reached the appropriate people.
RE:RE:This is all vote bank politics
by Yogesh on Mar 06, 2007 04:24 PM Permalink
Patience people !!! 1st it was reservation to backward sections , 2nd is the reservations to Minorities based on religion. Let us come up with a new reservation think innovative. NEW RESERVATION : to the forward class , bcos none of the earlier reservations caters to them and they are suppressed class now. so SUPPRESSED CLASS reservations !! anybody care to suggest the percentage ??
RE:This is all vote bank politics
by alok chaudhari on Mar 06, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
Why talk of reservations. Keep it out. Why cant the government give the best education and care to the economically backward children. Why can't the Govt. help the economically illitrates in securing some good jobs. You know why ?? Because the Govt. is not true to the cause Of people, for the people . Govt is true to the ruling party that holds the office.. and that's the fate. In the first place why are we guys talking about reservation.We can never build a great nation if we are based on spoon feeding the people based on whatever damn criterions....Jai hind
