If Hinduism as a religion is intended to crown the sovereignty of our country, it clearly fails when our priests preoccupy themselves with imagined pollution because another person may have polluted the precincts of the temple or the person. The Samoothiripad (Zamorin) of Kozhikode is right in his claim that priests had traditionally decided these matters. If they are unwilling to end such practices, they can hardly be considered fit to run national institutions. This raises the question of their management which the state has been totally unfit to regulate as it repuditiates what should have been the adoption of the Hindus as the principal's of the state. So, I see no merit in the Government proposal to regulate entry but I presume the legislation would exclude mosques which bar entry to all except Muslims. There is no equity in such a proposal.
Conditions of admission to places of worship temples properly lie with the temples. Hindu temples should have long ago realised the inequities in the practice of the religion, and they have a long way to go to put their house in order. Caste is no way to regulate admission and to label visitors as pollutors is to ascribe to rituals greater importance than they deserve. Hindu religious leaders need to demonstrate worldly wisdom which is quite evident with the examples of the Christians and Jews and their love of learning. This has been a source of hnour and profit to their countries.
Inadvertently Human ratioanlises birth-based caste system by just pointing out "Chaturvarnya mayashrushta" part(and saying God created birth-based caste and is therefore justified).
The full shloka is "Chaturvarnya mayashrushta guna karma vibhagaso" The last part "guna karma vibhagaso" is very vital. It says that God has created chaturvanya based on qualities and actions (and not by birth). Thus, read in context-the "chaturvarnya" referred to in Gita is four classes based on qualities and actions and not four castes based on birth.
Any society will consist of Intellectual /priestly class, ruling class, business / trader/agriculturist class and labour class. There will be free movement of people between these classes based on qualities and deeds.
In verse no.29 of Chapter no.9, it is clearly maentioned by Lord that " I am alike to all beings.None is dear to me or hated by me".
This birth-based caste is Manuistic in Origin and not Gitaistic.
RE:Selective misquoting of Gita by IH
by Anand Iyer on Jun 16, 2007 05:27 PM Permalink
"Neither skin nor blood nor flesh nor bone has caste; To self is caste ascribed through mere usage."[Niralamba Upanishad-www.Vedarahasya.com]
I dont know from where this Manu popped up and brought in birth-based caste and sanction for ill-treatment of shudras.
RE:Selective misquoting of Gita by IH
by Anand Iyer on Jun 16, 2007 05:10 PM Permalink
Bith-based caste cannot be justified on the basis of modern constitutional values. Nor can it be justified scripturally(i.e. scripture of Highest authority-i.e.Gita).
Both the heaven and hell of Abrahamic religions (Christians,Jews and Muslims)are materialistic.
How can soul which is neither body nor mind , but which is the "I" or self, the omnipresent Brahman go to heaven and hell and enjoy or toil there when that is materialistic???
Surely a body and a mind is needed . But this is rebirth then!!!!
Then why these people are against rebirth????
For Hindus, the ultimate aim is mukti when the soul is liberated from Maya and cycle of births and rebirths.
It is self realisation when self understand its' true nature
SO if Islamic heaven promise 72 virgins Christian heaven promise 72 roses or something else???
Also u r confused where new born babes who dies go???
RE:Muhammed
by recent on Jun 19, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
Can anyone explain why is your God (Krishna) the biggest womanizer the world ? He loved to watch naked young girls. Once when he was peeping when some lower caste young girls bathing and he took away their clothes and refused to give back to them because they were lower caste girls!!!!!. Wow everyone should immulate their Gods?
By the way how Krishna managed 16000 wives? Can anyone explain that as well?
RE:RE:Muhammed
by Khandu Patel on Jun 20, 2007 12:30 AM Permalink
The Krishna you talk of was boy upto his pranks. It is natural that the girls loved him in their way. This was the making of the hero who protected Draupidi from being unclothed and defended the honour of other women. All I can of Krisha's life is that he was an exemplary gentleman.
Isn't it logical that the person who created the caste system would put himself at the top of the system. So guess what, who created the system? The tantris! Now it's his added responsibility to dismentle this evil system that's destroying India. Wait... he wants to make it stronger instead of weakning it, just because he is at the top! What about the country, what about ethics, morality, justice and tolerance. Oh, these are secondary to maintaining the top position!
RE:Who created the caste system!
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 05:05 AM Permalink
Casteism is inherent in any soceity. You cannot remove it. It is impossible. In so called developed nations casteism still prevails. You have the administrative class, working blue-collar class, intelligent class and business class. Therefore it is not the Brahmins who created it. I am quoting this from BG: Chapter 4: "Chatur Varnam Maya Sristam..."
RE:RE:Who created the caste system!
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 05:18 AM Permalink
Casteism is inherent in any THIRD world soceity. In developed nations the diffences are as a result of skill, talent and circumstances, In caste system, the differences are based on birth without any considerations to skills, talents or hard work.
RE:Who created the caste system!
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 05:11 AM Permalink
There are million temples in India. Why target this alone? So, this is not about the Temple. This is about the "Brahmin" Priest. This is clear racism, discrimination and casteim by Ravi, congress, libreal media and yourself.
RE:RE:Who created the caste system!
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 05:20 AM Permalink
Any institution or person practicing discriminaion should be targeted including this temple and this tantri.
RE:Who created the caste system!
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
Thank you Anand Iyer! I have been reading your posts too and you are a rational, honest and logical person. India needs more people like you. Just like the white Amricans rose against slavery and brought a change in racist American laws, more and more people like you can change India by getting rid of the divisive and evil caste system.
RE:Who created the caste system!
by Anand Iyer on Jun 15, 2007 05:54 PM Permalink
Great posts buddy. That fellow really is "Inadvertently Human". India needs more thinkers like u.
Unfortunately folks like Kumar are the ones to occupy positions in government agencies and policy making teams with their reservations. They inturn supplicate their recism and casteism by promoting anti-Hindu propaganda.
This simply proves that reservation is just a tool to promote casteism and unfair treatment to Hindus and Indians.
Reservation should be stopped or made on economic condition basis. Functioning Temples should be open only to clean Hindus.
RE:People Like Kumar
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 04:17 AM Permalink
Inadvertently Human: for your information, I am against the current reservation policy since it doesn't exclude the creamy layer. Also, lot of people reap it for generations without giving a chance to the really poor, which is not fair. The reservation should help the people who are genenuenly poor and who did not get a chance at better life being born in a poor family. The current reservation policy is skewed.
RE:RE:People Like Kumar
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 04:23 AM Permalink
Finally, something we agree on. So why are you complaining against the Tantri? What made you think that he is casteist/racist? This is NOT a caste based issue and you KNOW that. Besides, when was the last time you heard a "lower-caste" person discriminated against Brahmins? When was the last time you heard violence by Brahmins? Why do you state without facts that Brahmins are from Persia? From your panache of writing I believe you are well educated and forward-thinking. Isnt is dangerous to support such baseless theories for India and Indians living world-wide? How can you tell 7% of India's 1 Billion population that they are not Indias?
You and I may not agree on everything. But I think you should be careful with the hate you are spreading. So why dont u write against the Tantri as an individual? Why target Tantris background and history as if you were present there?
RE:RE:RE:People Like Kumar
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 04:38 AM Permalink
Inadvertently Human: 1) The tantris consistently defend, support and bring the caste issues to limelight thereby weakning India. Isn't it logical that the person who created the caste system put himself at the top of the system. So guess what, who created the system? The tantris! 2) The Tantris repeated discrimination creates pain and suffering for good and honest Indian citizens. 3) The caste system forces people to bond based on caste rather than justice, ethics and morality. This causes these noble values to become orphan child that no one owns up, creating a third world unjust country. 4) The caste system prevents Indians from achieving their true potential which could have made the nation stronger. 5) The caste system spreads hate in people's mind and makes them insensitive to other Indians feeling, similiar to the Tantri and you seeing no wrong in descrimination. 6) The caste system makes India a slave country.
RE:People Like Kumar
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 04:58 AM Permalink
1. Casteism is inherent in any soceity. You cannot remove it. It is impossible. In so called developed nations casteism still prevails. You have the administrative class, working blue-collar class, intelligent class and business class. Therefore it is not the Brahmins who created it. I am quoting this from BG: Chapter 4: "Chatur Varnam Maya Sristam..."
2. Tantri is not making up rules. He is following them. And he says he will obey any rules and he will enforce them.
3. Yes, it is sadly true that casteism defeats the purpose of what it was actually for. Veda Vyasar, the author of Baghavad Gita among other works is actually the son of a fisherwoman who attained Brahman hood. Legend has it that he is Shri Baghavan Krishna himself. 4. Not true. 5. Blame people not the system. The system is picture perfect. 6. Yes. What are you and me and anyone else gonna do about it?
RE:People Like Kumar
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 05:22 AM Permalink
"Some families cannot digest the fact that a person who consumes meat can stand in their door step."
You know what we are all made of meat. When we die, we also become dead meat.
RE:RE:People Like Kumar
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 05:23 AM Permalink
And if you only hate meat eaters then there are lots of Brahmins who eat meat. For example, ALL brahmins from Bengal! This is definately bigger than someone eating meat.
RE:People Like Kumar
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 05:14 AM Permalink
It is hard for Brahmins to accept a person physically into our households. I state this from personal experiences.
Just like Islam and Xianity are difference from Hinduism, different communities and families have different traditional practises that they are built into. Some families cannot digest the fact that a person who consumes meat can stand in their door step. They consider that bad-luck and sin.
Is it bad, yes! It is logical and rational, perhaps not!
So the solution is, let us all keep our castes, keep our practices and remain distant friends with mutual respect. What is wrong with that?
RE:People Like Kumar
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 05:05 AM Permalink
1. Casteism is inherent in any THIRD world soceity. In developed nations the diffences are as a result of skill, talent and circumstances, In caste system the differences are based on birth without any considerations to skills and talents. 2. Tantri's heard is filled with hate. He is using the so called rules as a tool to practice his hate like a sadist. 3. This is an example of why we shouldn't have caste system 4. Absolutely true, unless you consider society only as your caste-men. Similiar to the Tantri and Lalu Yadav. 5. All forms of discrimination are wrong. 6. To start with stop people practicing hate and castiesm like the Tantri.
RE:People Like Kumar
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 04:25 AM Permalink
"Functioning Temples should be open only to clean Hindus" - Thank you for proving my point that this case is all about discrimination and caste and religion based hate. Thanks but no thanks for weaking India for your narrow castiest intrests.
RE:People Like Kumar
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 04:31 AM Permalink
What is with you and cleanliness? Instead of repeating hate and discrimination why dont u be specific about what about it that bothers u?
Even Lord Krishna says in Baghavad Gita that one must use discrimination to separate good from evil, clean from unclean etc. So in that context, can you say all discriminations are wrong? When you buy gorceries why dont u pick all the bad tomatoes? Why take a shower before going to work/school? Why bother keeping your apartment/house clean?
Where is discrimination here? This is cleanliness and hygiene dude. There is no hate here.
Christians eat Pigs and Cows. They are impure, so as a head priest, Tantri did the obvious by following the Vedic scriptures.
So, are you saying the Vedas are wrong? Are you saying Hinduism is wrong? Are you saying Hinduism should be dismantled?
Dont u now sound like a commie/leftie? I know of so many freids from so called "low-caste" but excellent devotees. I have fallen in their feet for getting their blessings.
This isnt about hate or caste. This is about what is Dharma and what is aDharma.
RE:RE:RE:People Like Kumar
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 04:32 AM Permalink
What is with you and cleanliness? Instead of repeating discrimination why dont u be specific about what about it that bothers u?
Even Lord Krishna says in Baghavad Gita that one must use discrimination to separate good from evil, clean from unclean etc. So in that context, can you say all discriminations are wrong? When you buy gorceries why dont u pick all the bad tomatoes? Why take a shower before going to work/school? Why bother keeping your apartment/house clean?
Where is discrimination here? This is cleanliness and hygiene dude. There is no hate here.
Christians eat Cows. They are impure, so as a head priest, Tantri did the obvious by following the Vedic scriptures.
So, are you saying the Vedas are wrong? Are you saying Hinduism is wrong? Are you saying Hinduism should be dismantled? I know of so many friends from so called "low-caste" but excellent devotees. I have fallen in their feet for getting their blessings.
This isnt about caste. This is about what is Dharma and what is aDharma.
RE:People Like Kumar
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 04:47 AM Permalink
1) The tantris consistently defend, support and bring the caste issues to limelight thereby weakning India. Isn't it logical that the person who created the caste system put himself at the top of the system. So guess what, who created the system? The tantris! 2) The Tantris repeated discrimination creates pain and suffering for good and honest Indian citizens. 3) The caste system forces people to bond based on caste rather than justice, ethics and morality. This causes these noble values to become orphan child that no one owns up, creating a third world unjust country. 4) The caste system prevents Indians from achieving their true potential which could have made the nation stronger. 5) The caste system spreads hate in people's mind and makes them insensitive to other Indians feeling, similiar to the Tantri and you seeing no wrong in descrimination. 6) The caste system makes India a slave country. 7) All kind of discrimination are wrong, no excuses and no exceptions.
RE:RE:RE:People Like Kumar
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 05:03 AM Permalink
Discrumination is RECEMMENDED in Vedas and Vedanta (Baghavad Gita). One must use his discrimination in making his choices. One must give up sense-gratification and take up spiritual work. Our purpose on this earth is to serve the Lord not to masters of our own domain. It is for this reason, we are born in this prison. When one gives into sense gratification such as meat-eating and sex, then he simply cannot acquire a higher taste for spirituality. This is plain science, let alone sprituality.
Caste system doesnt make India a slave country. It is the people that make India a poor country.
Why dont u do ur part and help India acheieve its true potential. Learned gentlemen such as u and I want material benmefits so we are sitting our a&&es pretty in the US. If u really serious, why not practise what u preach. Forget being a devotee, atleast u can start being a gentleman right?
RE:RE:RE:RE:People Like Kumar
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 05:14 AM Permalink
"When one gives into sense gratification such as meat-eating and sex, then he simply cannot acquire a higher taste for spirituality." -- Come one all our Gods are married including Lord Krisha and Lord Rama, they also had children. You are sounding like a Catholic priest now! "Discrumination is RECEMMENDED in Vedas and Vedanta (Baghavad Gita)." -- Anything that supports discrimination is evil, period.
One more reason I hate the caste system is that it has made India a third world country lacking justice and harmony and have forced droves of educated people abroad leaving their sad parents, siblings and relatives back home.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:People Like Kumar
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 05:14 AM Permalink
Rama, Krishna, Vishu, Shiva -- they are all married with children. Sex is a necessity without which humans will go extinct. If the God's didn't want it they would have made humans self reproducing or atleast made sex very very painful.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:People Like Kumar
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 05:19 AM Permalink
You cannot get this knowledge directly. Please go to a spiritual master and ask these questions. Even injecting urself with poison is easy. So why dont try it?
Sex is not bad. Sex outside marriage is bad. Its animal charater to mate, eat, sleep and defend. We are higher than animals (some of us are). So we should learn to discriminate the habits.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:People Like Kumar
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 05:26 AM Permalink
Go to a 'master' who discrimates based on birth rather than talent, skill and hard work. Thanks but no thanks. I have talked to many 'masters' before but sadly they don't seem to win a logical debate against me :(
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:People Like Kumar
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 05:19 AM Permalink
Great, we are at the crux of the issue now. Dont question what Lord Ram and Lord Krishna does. They are Gods. They can do whatever they wish. Lord Krishna says those who are jealous of his pasttimes are demons. So dont quesiton what Lord Krishna did...we are all God's property. He can very well do whatever he wished to do.
Caste System is made in the MOST civilized country in the entire World, Hindustan. It is a third world country just now. About 500 years ago we were tjhe most advanced and intelligent soceity in the entire world. Why did u think Muslims and Xians came to Hindustan? Do fry bajji?
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:People Like Kumar
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 05:29 AM Permalink
500 years back the Mughals rules India. Try some other year. They came because we were suckers, had the caste system and were fighting based on caste.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:People Like Kumar
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 05:30 AM Permalink
"Dont question what Lord Ram and Lord Krishna does. They are Gods" See this is the difference between a fanatic and a rational mind. Rational minds question everything. What you are saying regarding no questions asked is Arabian culture and not the Indian culture.
RE:People Like Kumar
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 09:01 AM Permalink
Through some funny twist of events 'Inadvertently Human's' thinking and mentality have pointed him right back to his intolerant, bigoted and closed minded Arab ancestry. You can take an Arab out of Arabia but you can not take the Arabia out of the Arab.
Because of their bigotry, the Tantris destroyed Sanskrit language. Now they want to do the same thing with Hinduism to be followed by India itself that will spilinter into 600 states again. Down with these hate mongreres who practice divide and rule and make India weak.
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 12:49 AM Permalink
Inadvertently Human, come on now. You are talking like the Tantri and proving my point about making India weak. Is that the Arab in you speaking?
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Jas Sand on Jun 15, 2007 02:00 AM Permalink
But I have a stupid question - Is the discussion only about Tantris or Brahmins or All the Hindus?
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Praveen PG on Jun 16, 2007 06:11 AM Permalink
Jas Sand, Tantris are Brahmins. They are called tantris in Kerala and Pujari/Pandits in other part of India
RE:RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 03:40 AM Permalink
Jas Sand, the discussion is about India our home country and all it's citizens irrespective of caste.
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Kumar on Jun 16, 2007 02:54 AM Permalink
"Krishna knew he was 'wrong' on a physical level" So being an OBC was being 'wrong' on physical level? Tsk! Tsk! Of course you are on Inadvertently human's 'side'. If desiring justice and equality makes me an adharmi then so be it.
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 03:14 AM Permalink
Inadvertently Human, for you the word community means only your own caste. For me the word community means the entire population of India. You have again proven my original point. Think about this. This is where BJP maar khaa gaya. Also, in the previous post you said the tantri is pure Brahmin and now you say as per Gita the Brahmin prays for the entire mankind, I don't see the tantri doing this. May be for him the entire mankind means only his caste! You castiest would have opposed Lord Krisha as well since he was born as an OBC (caste by birth), so don't try to act funny now since you have been exposed.
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 03:32 AM Permalink
Dont try to connect imaginary dots by comparing BJP and Brahmins. They are apples and oranges.
You dont see Tantri doing what? You want every Cow-slaughtering meat-eating non-believing Christian to let inside the Temple? Why blame the Brahmin Tantri when all he did was to follow the rules?
I forbid you to blaspheme Lord Krishna's name by caste. Since you are a Shudra dog (not my birth, just based on your guna) I no longer wish to carry out a conversation with you regarding Lord Krishna.
Lord Krishna palced you in the womb of evil, darkness and ignorance (Shudra) and that why you continue to punish yourself by blaspheming against Lord Krishna.
Please dont have any children as your children will be too Shudra idiots.
I feel sorry for your dark soul. All I can say is read Gita and surrender unto Lord Krishna's Lotus Feet.
So my middle finger up ur's and bye-bye anti-Brahmin Shudra dog!
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 03:46 AM Permalink
Jas Sand, when I mean Shudra - I meant Shudra by Guna and Karma as stated in Gita. Not by birth or caste.
I dont believe in casteism. If a person born in brahmin family is wrong, then he is wrong. If he has shudra qualities, then he is a Shudra. Vedic literatures state the same.
RE:RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 03:43 AM Permalink
You have again proven my point! You heart is full of hate and bigotry. Krisha cannot definitely reside in such a heart! Here is a count of Shudras in India: 35 OBC, 20% SC 15% ST so now you hate 65% of Indians? That's why I called the tantri and his supporters bad for India. Bye bye Arab guy.
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Jas Sand on Jun 15, 2007 03:41 AM Permalink
"So my middle finger up ur's and bye-bye anti-Brahmin Shudra dog!" _______________________________________________
IH,
Frankly I dont appreciate it. Such kind of abuses are unwarrented boss.
RE:RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 12:54 AM Permalink
Inadvertently Human: Besides the Arab genes in the Tantris hardly qualify as good genes!
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Indo Maratha on Jun 15, 2007 01:12 AM Permalink
I am sure when aurangazeb's army was targeting brahmin families for his armies use, this guy was born out of that fun time of his army
RE:RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 01:16 AM Permalink
Your comments are as stupid and retarted as you and your ancestry. :)
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 01:14 AM Permalink
Where did u find that I am from Arabia? Lord Krishna says in Baghavad Gita "AnArya Jushtam ashwayrgyam akiritkaram Arjuna" meaning "Dont act unAryan Arjuna". So is Lord Krishna dn Arjuna from Arabia too? Mahabharat took place 5000 years ago. We now have evidences in the form of lost city of Mathura etc.
So your father Max Muellers "Aryan-invasion theory" has gone bye-bye. It has been removed from international academics following overwhelming evidences against it.
Perhaps your un/underdeveloped brain still cant contemplate on the fact that the fellow who smoked you in high shcool and college has actually had a significant history.
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 01:32 AM Permalink
Lord Krishna was a Yadav (an OBC caste). So you call his genes inferior too? How about Lord Rama who as a Kshatriya is inferior to this Tantri? Inadvertently Human and the Tantri need to get their heads examined. Also following point to the tantri's (and yours) Arab background: 1) Indian Brahmins put a holy thread around them, well, so did the ancient Persians (and that too much before the Indian Brahmins). 2) Indian Brahmins worshipped the 5 elements of nature including 'holy fire' so did the ancient Persians (and that too much before the Indian Brahmins). 3) The language of the Indian Brahmins is very close to that of the ancient Persians. 4) Indian Brahmins distinctly look like Arabs compared to other castes. 5) Like Persians they deny their true ancestry and imagine themselves to be Aryans. 6) Like so many middle eastern people the Brahmins claim that they are God's chosen people.
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Inadvertently Human on Jun 15, 2007 01:44 AM Permalink
You are an idiot for digression from current topic under discussion.
Let us even consider the remote possibility of you accepting the supremacy of Lord Krishna and Baghavad Gita (by the way, Lord Krishna is beyond all your castes, communities and religion - He is the para-Brahman. I doubt if your intellect can comprehend that.) then it has been declared even by Lord Krishna himself in Baghavad Gita that one must worship the Vedic Brahmanas for their purity, dedication, knowledge and their universal purpose of praying for the welfare of entire mankind (Sarvo Bhavanthu Shukinah).
Just because you and a white man have two pairs of legs, two pairs of hands, a nose, a throat and a neck doesnt mean you two are from the same race. You must be an idiot to come up with such degenerate comparisions.
Impact of Hinduism was spread all over Asian continent. It stretched as far as Iran in the west and Laos/Cambodia in the east. If anything then the Persians would have mimicked Vedic worshipping.
All your points carry no introspected factual information. Rather, it carried vague ambiguities that can be instantly rejected due to its base less claims.
I am sticking to my original point. You are a rabid anti-Brahmin mornon simply jealous and aggravated because of your community's failure to launch.
Why dont you leave these BS behing and stop spreading hate around?
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Kumar on Jun 15, 2007 04:18 AM Permalink
Inadvertently Human, for you the word community means only your own caste. For me the word community means the entire population of India. You have again proven my original point. Think about this. This is where BJP maar khaa gaya. Also, in the previous post you said the tantri is pure Brahmin and now you say as per Gita the Brahmin prays for the entire mankind, I don't see the tantri doing this. May be for him the entire mankind means only his caste! You castiest would have opposed Lord Krisha as well since he was born as an OBC (caste by birth), so don't try to act funny now since you have been exposed.
RE:Tantris made Sanskrit dead now they are trying the same with Hinduism to be followed by India going extinct!
by Jas Sand on Jun 15, 2007 01:37 AM Permalink
Kumar,
The Aryan invasion theory has died a sound death .. The Genes of any Indian race have been proven to be distinct from the other races!
