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10,000 fear eviction
by Minto on Jun 06, 2007 05:06 AM  Permalink 

http://www.thedailystar.net/2007/06/06/d70606011811.htm
http://www.thedailystar.net/2007/06/06/index.htm

From Daily Star, June 6, 2007 Edition

10,000 fear eviction
Special Correspondent

Over 10,000 Hindus in one of the largest Hindu enclaves in the city at Chakuli, in Mirpur-12 are living in gnawing fear of losing their ancestral homesteads and an age-old temple as the Cantonment Board authorities put a claim on the land.
Officials with bulldozers yesterday reached the place to demolish the village but called off the operation due to rain, locals said. Residents there said they could produce all documents to prove that they have inherited the land from their ancestors.
"We have lived here for generations, if there is a proper land acquisition by the government we shall definitely respect that decision, but what is happening here today [Tuesday] does not have any legal basis whatsoever," said Narayan Sarkar, a carpenter by profession, living on a small piece of land he said he inherited from his forefathers.
The crowd of worried men and women grew to over 150 as this correspondent talked to them. "When our parents learnt about the first acquisition back in the sixties, they went to the court and won the case against the government," said a visibly shaken Sudhir Chandra Sarkar, president of the Durga temple committee and a community leader, showing copies of relevant documents.
The entire process of acquiring the area for extending Dhaka Cantonment was started again in 1

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Security most important
by Mukesh Garg on Jun 06, 2007 01:39 AM  Permalink 

Indian people are still as soft as they always were, and neighbours are still as cruel as they always used to be. Security most important, and can be best achieved by not compromising on Nuke tech.
America is not concerned about Indian security, why would hey be? Its Indians only who has to think about their own security, and Indian Govt must not give up right to Test and reprocessing the fuel.

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RE:all kommunists who dont like amerika
by Mao TsePong on Jun 05, 2007 11:57 AM  Permalink
and dont forget to kollect ur free daily meal from mother terasa charity.

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RE:RE:all kommunists who dont like amerika
by Sandipan chakraborty on Jun 06, 2007 04:17 AM  Permalink
and don't forget to collect your fees for the household work and toilet cleaning you did for me...slave!

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RE:RE:RE:all kommunists who dont like amerika
by Sandipan chakraborty on Jun 06, 2007 04:18 AM  Permalink
tha above msg was for Mao..in case he doesn't understand birdbrain..hehehe....

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Nuclear deal
by umesh pandey on Jun 05, 2007 09:36 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

India should sign the nuclear deal.
We need to develop nuclear energy.
We need to remove extreme poverty from our country and should not live in false nationalistic pride.
What the hell atomic bomb or hydrogen bomb do for a poor malnurished and illitrate society!
Try to see things from bird's eye view- there is hardly any pride when we see chaotic,illitrate and malnurished people in every street.



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RE:Nuclear deal
by Sachin Raorane on Jun 05, 2007 10:20 AM  Permalink
And also do keep in mind, US is where it is after 200 of its independance, where as we are trying to reach there in just 50-55 years, so what ravi prakash say is right, still wehave long way to go. How can you achive something so easily what other has got in 200 yrs.

Also, it is no point in getting your peace as gift from someone, you have to earn your peace and you need to maintain it. Like Japan.

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RE:Nuclear deal
by raja on Jun 05, 2007 10:52 AM  Permalink
dont talk abt japan ,,,japan is afraid of north korea
if chinese can achieve within 50 years icbm,economy stronger why not india can achieve

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RE:Nuclear deal
by Naalayak Chhokra on Jun 05, 2007 10:21 AM  Permalink
Umesh ..dimag mat laga tu..

Nuclear tests for India are necessary if a threat arises from both the neighbours China and Pakistan.

If US says India cannot test or if it will suspend the deal on any nuclear test, then India cannot go into agreement on this basis

That is correct from Indias point.

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RE:Nuclear deal
by ware vm on Jun 05, 2007 10:26 AM  Permalink
See here the point is not only test, because for war, even 1 KG of our present bomb is enough and world has seen that with JAPAN, the point is will you allow someone else to control your backbone or your economy.

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RE:Nuclear deal
by ware vm on Jun 05, 2007 10:31 AM  Permalink
And people don%u2019t think about Nuclear War, its scary, JAPAN has spend its more than 4 generations to recover from that incidence, they had so many years where no normal child was born in Hiroshima and Nagasaki



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RE:Nuclear deal
by Mukesh Garg on Jun 06, 2007 01:48 AM  Permalink
Hey Man, who told you that poverty can be removed by singing this kind of Nuke deal. Don't you understand, there are many more reasons for poverty of India, then electricity. People of India will still remain poor even if you sign 10 such deals. Also, how much energy are we going to get out of this deal? Also, don't forget, our neighbours are very hostile, will not let us breathe if we blink eye, this is a fact based on historical incidences. So, do other things required to remove poverty, don't do things which will make India a virtual slave to USA and an easy target for neighbours.

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RE:Nuclear deal
by ravi prakash on Jun 05, 2007 10:12 AM  Permalink
Sir,
Every one in this country would desire your wish, unfortunately, things are not so simple. Although we desire to pursue peace to attain prosperity for our people; other nations will not let us be. It has never happened in history and will never happen in future also.
The only other country to pursue a similar ideal is the US, they have the isolation provided by the Oceans, but today they too are under siege.9/11 is a standing example.
If we as a nation do not follow the compulsions of a nation state then it would be our fault if we do not secure peace simply believing in the goodness of others.
If we want peace then we have to be prepared for war. This is a fact, harsh and bitter.
The peace of a vassal state is illusory. It has not prevented the depredations of the ruling powers to weaken and exploit.
We have a long way to go to build a self reliant and confident India, so we have to engage other nations keeping our national self interest paramount at all times.

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RE:Nuclear deal
by Suneet Bhutta on Jun 06, 2007 03:53 AM  Permalink
What are you going to do with electricity when Pakistan or China nuclear bombs the hell out of our country ? Pakistan has not missed one chance to attack our country. They will go on developing nuclear weapons getting technology from China. China already has a 50 KT nuclear bomb and within the next 10-20 years they will be able to develop technology for two 100 KT bombs which launched simultaneously is more destructive than a 1 Megaton nuclear bomb. The reason why no country in the world has the guts to attack the US on its own soil is because they have hundreds of thousands of nuclear warheads - much more than any country - go to www.fas.org for more information. When you see the number of nukes they have, it will shake the ground below you.

My brother, even we want electricity and our country to be self-sufficient. We want to remove poverty and leave no child begging on the streets but history has shown that our hostile neighbours are looking at the slightest opportunity to attack and destroy our country - the only way to avoid this is by having a credible and tested nuclear deterrent. Our 10 -12 KT nuclear bomb has not even been tested !

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RE:Nuclear deal
by ware vm on Jun 05, 2007 10:03 AM  Permalink
Man it is not the question of bomb, what US is saying is, they will be monitoring your activity and for that India should grant the permission, so they can anytime visit any of the plant and inspect it, presently Indai dont have seperate plant for producing the enrgy and do the research on wepon, presently everything is together and india can not offord to give such permission to US official to inspect it plant. This is waht i feel the real issue is, i dont know if anybody have any more information on this, who are discussing on this board

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RE:Nuclear deal
by obama on Jun 05, 2007 03:26 PM  Permalink
Umesh Pandey .. dont forget the basics. India was not always poor... it is poor because people came and dominated us .... so dont be fooled by the ulterior motives ...safeguard ur interests ... hard work done by one self is any day better than the goodies shown by others ... there are usually caveats to that ...

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by Mukesh Garg on Jun 06, 2007 01:45 AM  Permalink
Who makes you think that poverty can be removed by signing the Nuke deal.
Brother, there are a lot more issues, within India, which are responsible for these poor conditions. Sign 10 such deals, still poor will remain poor if the current system prevails, Although, we will be less self sufficient in saving ourselves from hostile neighbours.

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Play the Game Right; If Necessary Test H Bombs
by Shivkumar Singh on Jun 05, 2007 07:14 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The problem for India is, due to the abysmal leadership of Nehrus, India missed the bus in 1950s and 60s on weaponising. We still need to test H Bombs and fine tune our delivery systems.

The outsourcing jobs will not go away as feared. Our linkages with US entities are deep. The US will face tremendous pain if their Banks close/customer support get compromised.

If necessary let us test B Bombs. Let us not be constrained too much by Pakistan factor. The civil society there does not hate us. We have to remain engaged with Pakistan.

If our testing considerations is getting compromised, let us not sign the agreement now. To handle Chinese Hagemony and Islamism, US will need India; if not now, surely 10 years later. Chinese Hagemony and Islamism will remain ever present dangers for the free world. For all our weaknesses, we are the only nation in the entire Asia between Japan and Europe that has a commitment to a free society.

Singha

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RE:Play the Game Right; If Necessary Test H Bombs
by Sumit Bhandari on Jun 05, 2007 08:24 AM  Permalink
Shivkumar,
That is a nice point of view and i believe that besides what you cited there is one more aspect where our "freaking politicians" should concentrate and that is the lobbying powers in USA, even after spending that much money we are nearly zero in lobbying and hence still begging to increase the H1 cap from 65k to 110k.
All that matters in this world is power, economic, political, demographical and of course diplomatic powers.

Sumit

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