who don't like amerika should stop using amerikan invented capitalistic stuff such as computers, automobiles, internet, satellites, pharmaceuticals, aeroplanes etc.....and go sit in their mud-huts in kalkutta.
RE:all kommunists
by dull roots on Jun 03, 2007 05:56 PM Permalink
No point running down Communists. We need to listen and seek to understand their perspectives. When highly intelligent individuals have given their life time on such an endevour there got to be some valid basis. Let us respect them, accept them, seek to address their concerns, get a complete perspective and converge to a solution.[samasya-samuchit-samanjasya-samadhan].
RE:all kommunists
by Warrior on Jun 03, 2007 09:52 AM Permalink
EXCEPT AEROPLANES,US HAS NO CREDITS IN ANY OF THE FEILDS PLEASE BE AWARE BEFORE YOU COMMENT.
RE:all kommunists
by Mao TsePong on Jun 03, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
correct....and amerika dominates innovation & technolgy because amerikan eduation is MERITOCRACY with 75% of top educational instituitions in usa.
RE:RE:all kommunists
by Loan Shark on Jun 03, 2007 10:42 AM Permalink
you gotta give credit to US for viagra ... lose that pretention, see your doctor today and tell your wife it was my idea. kapish!
RE:all kommunists
by Mao TsePong on Jun 03, 2007 10:01 AM Permalink
no bigg deal....anything else not from amerika is from europe which is also capitalizt.
btw, even kommunism is from west ....marx, lenin, stalin are europeans and moscow is in europe.
kerala & bengal kommunists have no originalty...either copy european marx or chineese mao...ha ha !
and dont forget to replace ur amerikan amd/pentium computer processor with made in kalkutta processor !
RE:Real sticking points of the deal
by USN Kashyap on Jun 03, 2007 07:26 AM Permalink
But then THE HINDU is a communist party pamphlet. Long ago it ceased to be "India's national newspaper". Pakistani sympathisers, chinese agents abound in its columns. Reading its "Letters to the Editor" or the editorial or its op-ed pages it would give an impression that India is already a communist/islamic state. Let us leave THE HINDU alone. It is in fact THE MUSLIM. If you have seen a different opinion published somewhere else please let us know (provided of course it also do not fall under THE HINDU category).
RE:Real sticking points of the deal
by pointyhaired on Jun 03, 2007 10:09 AM Permalink
Kashyap,
Have you really tried to follow "The Hindu" on a regular basis? Try to do that, say for 2 weeks, and you'll realise that it is The Only Real "Newspaper" in India! Objectivity hurts. It hurts when someone does not go by popular opinion alone and has the guts to call a spade a spade.
So whether its Congress or CPI or Terrorists or BJP or America Or India, who is under the scanner for a news report, The Hindu follows it up, AND GIVES **FACTS** to establish its claims.
And here's something to think about - pick up ANY newspaper for 2-3 days after a terrorist incident and compare it with The Hindu. You'll find much much better reporting in Hindu, with the paper going into detail in the terror networks, how they work, their infrastructure and their support networks in Bangladesh/ Pakistan etc!! So much for biased reporting.
RE:Real sticking points of the deal
by Praful Kava on Jun 03, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
Here's more sensible analysis of issues http://www.samachar.com/showurl.php?rurl=http://www.thehindu.com/2007/06/03/stories/2007060315281000.htm&news=India%2 0will%20stick%20to%20%60rights-based%60%20approach%20on%20reprocessing&pubDate=Sun%2C 03 Jun 2007&keyword=hindu_home
RE:Real sticking points of the deal
by Satya V on Jun 03, 2007 08:37 AM Permalink
I think Rediff has its own US office..so nothing surprising about what gets published here..Praful..
All of you have heard about proxy war. All of you have also been told that Pakistan is responsible for it. Dig a bit deeper, try to put pieces together and you would know it was American proxy war for thirty years against India to force her to sign NPT and become another vassal state. Yes, stupid Pakistani army generals are/were more than willing but they still are mere pawns. Indian nuclear tests were a warning that India would not take it lying down any more. US has started respecting India only after India has shown some guts. If India gives her strenth away and they would treat her like dirt.
It would not be out of place to repeat it once again. US needs India more than India needs US. India needs to have confidence in herself. India doesn't want any land or impose its culture on anyone. No one should fear india except those who want to cause us harm. India can be a great moderating influence in Asia. US needs India badly. US wants to disentangle themselves from Pakistan and India can help. Stick to parameters of the Bush-Singh deal signed in 2005. That deal was signed after several months of negotiations. That was end of the give and take not the point where US would start asking for more concessions.
RE:proxy war
by obama on Jun 03, 2007 03:52 AM Permalink
Arman
You have rightly summarized the situation. And it is no rocket science to see the US strategy so what hurts most is that there are so many people who can see it all clearly and why is this govt so dumb.
RE:proxy war
by Loan Shark on Jun 03, 2007 08:25 AM Permalink
your concerns are unfounded ... perhaps you suffer from US phobia which is due to your limited knowledge of this deal.
The deal with US is actually in India's interest ... somehow, Indians are being led to believe that it is not and some gullible people are falling for it. Guys, wake up. India is not being asked to sign NPT.
Yes, US needs India to sell its technology and India needs this technology to keep up with its growth. This will help India provide cheaper and reliable source of energy and also a resource to further its nuclear strength.
All this without having to sign any NPT. What can be better?
Don't pay attention to concerns shown by Brijesh Mishra or Jaswant Singh. BJP would have done the same thing had they been in office and congress leaders would have opposed them then. It's all politics guys. Don't fall for this.
RE:proxy war
by Prasanna Venkatesh on Jun 03, 2007 08:35 AM Permalink
"somehow, Indians are being led to believe that it is not " - well, I believe I read so many columns in national newspapers where not dumb politicians are saying negatives about this deal, but well informed, more patriotic scientists from our premier science institutions . we should not give up our quest for knowledge for the sake of energy security blah blah whatever. At last, ALWAYS REMEMBER - STRENGTH RESPECTS STRENGTH.
RE:RE:proxy war
by Loan Shark on Jun 03, 2007 09:01 AM Permalink
I respect your opinion but want to know that of all the intelligent articles from well informed, patriotic scientists from premier insitutions that you have read, what has made you believe that the deal is not in India's best interest.
Can you share those findings/conclusions here. Most of the opposition that I have heard is that this deal puts India's national security at risk, it makes us slaves of the US. I do not yet understand how the deal risks India's national security when absolutely no compromise is being made on that account. Not only is India not signing NPT, we are not going to put up our nuclear research facilities for US inspection.
RE:proxy war
by Satya V on Jun 03, 2007 08:46 AM Permalink
Mr. Loan.. I think elite scientists like Dr. A. Gopalakrishnan and Mr. Anil Kakodkar have best interests of India.. and you should stop trying to fool people around.. Remember.. "No one can fool everybody for long time" and world has realised this ( the double game US plays).. Can you people look in the mirror and say what Bush has done in Iraq and trying to do it with Iran is right? Bush said "Weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq, plundered, raged the country..put its puppet people on board and got hold of oil.. This summarizes US's intentions that it requires countries either to be servile to it.. or wage war to destroy the race in that country. Such devious designs.. if Chavez says Bush is a devil.. he is no wrong! God knows what they have in mind for India..for being a good nation in the world..You dear do this to China..and see what reaction you get.. US is an expert double tongued "communicating" nation.. We do not require to believe Jaswant Singh..
RE:RE:proxy war
by Loan Shark on Jun 03, 2007 09:04 AM Permalink
US reasons for attacking Iraq bear no connection with this deal. Just because US screwed up in Iraq and is facing opposition to the war at home, does not make us not wanting to do business with the US. We (India) do a lot of business with the US (not just in IT) despite our opposition to war in Iraq.
RE:proxy war
by Satya V on Jun 03, 2007 10:52 AM Permalink
we can do business where it is win-win.. not win-lose. Why Hyde act was passed and 123 agreement was discussed at length and breadth in US Congress while same is not allowed in our parliament? Why they want to curtail our reprocessing rights on fuel purchased...why they donot allow testing even though we have unscrupulous neighbors like Pakistan, China and now Bangladesh who just look fot an oppotunity to wage a war or internal conflict..and ADDED to that they keeping singing "praises" of iNDIA'S RESPONSIBLE behaviour..? and when coming to allowing testing US congress looks suspiciously..tell me what right those stupid senators have to right such worst wording letter to Indian PM? and they say "You can ofcourse do simulated testing in labs"? If anyone can test and confirm their success in labs.. Why the hell US used Iraqi war to test its payload.. that double tongued country..and lastly, it even without us signing the deal ..twisted arms to go against Iran and expect us to join them in unscrupulous bloody war against everybody in the wrld for their benefit.. Certainly..this deal needs to die before it takes birth..
RE:huh
by on Jun 03, 2007 09:24 AM Permalink
Please do not speak with yor limited knowledge.Did you see the details of the Henry Hyde Act.Signing the NPT would be better than having this deal.If the deal is so good for India why is US pushing for it.
