There was an article in a newspaper by Pritish Nandy saying anything can happen in politics , we can't write off any political party.True! Never underestimate any party
RE:NDA Win
by prashanth kumar on Feb 27, 2007 02:37 PM Permalink
its utter one sided message.Its peoples collective verdict and one person can not comment on it
RE:RE:NDA Win
by anand yni on Feb 27, 2007 02:55 PM Permalink
"People Living in Glass Houses Should Not Throw Stones" is a wise old saying. You must remember it before jumping into conclusions!! Thanks to connection with people in high places, Interpol proclaimed offender Quattrocchi got away cheaply for the second time. Are your cousins ruling or ruining the country?
RE:NDA Win
by mukesh thakur on Feb 27, 2007 02:42 PM Permalink
You are 'pessimism' personified. Every party, every person and every situation has its bright and dark side. Why harp on the dark side alone? You mentioned about 'we being slave', what ill-founded conclusion. Our industrialists and young scholars are performing extremly well world over and you conviniently ignore that. Why are you so much annoyed with BJP? In your own interest you must have balanced and unbiased approach to any matter.
RE:NDA Win
by Suresh Verma on Feb 27, 2007 02:51 PM Permalink
Hi, Its strange that people who use internet must be educated but mindset is so???,where they clain BJP a Brahmin party.Its different thing that all parties have criminals but why steriotyping a party who raise voice for Hindus,that to when some thing is wrong.They have muslim,Sikh & Christian leader & follower.Do you think Congress which is party for POOR have made life tought for Poor due to steep price hike,even middle class is facing the burn.There should be a base for critisising a party for just nothing.Hope you re think about your statement.
RE:RE:NDA Win
by Kashi Akhoon on Feb 27, 2007 03:29 PM Permalink
Please for Gods Sake Come back to your origional home to which you belong . I understand you have been influenced by anti hummanists time and again resulting changing of your origional course of faith , Come back, be a true son of your forefathers who were belonging to only one faith (HINDUISM).Believe me this way you would be doing justice to your grand fathers who were influenced to change the path and your forefathers would love it.Be pure by faith and mind
RE:NDA Win
by Sushil G B on Feb 27, 2007 02:41 PM Permalink
Then why don't you form a party and set an example my dear. Its easy to say than done. If you are telling BJP as BRAHMIN JATIYA PARTY then what congress is doing. Stop this useless talks and tell me have you casted your vote till date!? If no then u don't have any moral rights to talk on all such issues.
RE:NDA Win
by bora reddy on Feb 27, 2007 02:59 PM Permalink
People like you who converts for a college seat or a cristian girl have no right to comment on graceful hindus, who allows ditrectors like you to live peacefully in the society.
RE:NDA Win
by Ranga Krishnan on Feb 28, 2007 06:30 PM Permalink
Heloo My dear Precilla, Tell me, who is the FATHER of your Jesus and How a VIRGIN Lady can give birth to a child. First answer this quiestions and some other day we can discuss politics of ROME and conduct and character of your POPE
RE:NDA Win
by hariom rai on Feb 27, 2007 02:50 PM Permalink
Slave to other countries? U need not waste ur time writing messages here. Ur name tells everything gentleman.Madam Sonia u have 1 supporter on rediff
RE:Yet Another Defeat congress..........................
by Aviram Vijh on Feb 27, 2007 02:50 PM Permalink
will you prefer being ruled by mayawati?!! gandhis rule bcoz people want them to rule.
RE:RE:Yet Another Defeat congress..........................
by Tushar on Feb 27, 2007 03:35 PM Permalink
hey it is ghandi and not ghandhi.. Indira changed it to ghandi amd they have nothing to do with ghandhis..
Everywhere in the world, Extremism is rewarded but only for a small period of time. Ahmedenijads victory in Iran or Hamas victory in Palestine shows this trend. But now in the various elections taking place in Iran, Ahmedenijad is no where in picture.Palestinians have also lost faith in Hamas and hence now the Govt of both parties together is put in place.
The Indian extremist party, BJP, will also enjoy this honeymoon period for few days. The people will realise the true colour of these people and show them their place very soon. Creating hatred against other religions and making minority people live a life in continuous fear, raping nuns, burning people of other religion, massacring the innocents, all these things will come back soon and will become the order of the day under BJP's rule. BJP and their organisations like RSS, VHP & Bajrang Dal will enjoy these fascist methods for now. But in longer run, these people will take this country to barbarism, the same way Taliban did for Afghanistan. So this is a sort of Talibanisation of India.
RE:Extremism has temporary rewards
by Manpreet Saini on Feb 27, 2007 02:58 PM Permalink
we have seen what BJP had done with Babri Masjid not very different from what the taliban did to the buddha statues at bamiyan they way they create problem during valentine's day and against any movies which are supposed to be a work of ART is just like the forced morality thrusted by the taliban .. i say why are we looking at afhjanistan middle east j&k hey the trouble makers are here right under our noses .Its about time that people with some sanity left should realise how to show the door to such extremist parties .
RE:RE:Extremism has temporary rewards
by Sushil G B on Feb 27, 2007 03:10 PM Permalink
Because of you people (Amol / Saini & their brothers & sisters) only the condition of India is like this. I simply don't understand the breed of these peoples. My dear Manpreet, please go and read the Kuran and then call that structure as Babri Masjid.
RE:Extremism has temporary rewards
by Amar Desai on Feb 27, 2007 10:18 PM Permalink
Amol, it seems u r frustrated by the honour and growth that hindusim has brought to this nation. Well just to tell you the word Hindu and progress goes hand-in-hand, if a blood sucking pest like you can see how india is progrssing today only on the base and efforts of INdia (majority being hindu) and if in longer run BJP will come in rule without coalation nation is definately going to progress. In the mean while you enjoy the life and comfort Hindustan is giving you and yes you are most welcome to critisize the native religion of this land. And if you think that you all are not comfortable here, ther eare lot of options Pakistan, Bdesh, Iran, Iraq. Please go if you think they can give you a better life. Jor se bolo Jai HIND.
RE:I totally agrree
by seekingram an on Feb 27, 2007 02:15 PM Permalink
Hi man ,Relax... Why you become so angry? What is "gandhian principal" :) is it lack of tolerance? You are not ready to allow others to express their opinions, but still boast about Gandhian thoughts and proper upbringing.. This simply shows your mind dear.... :)Go and watch Lage raho Munnabhai and Boast ...
RE:RE:RE:I totally agrree
by Aviram Vijh on Feb 27, 2007 02:52 PM Permalink
people like these who use derogatory words for Bapu must be hanged, trying saying this in pakistan, and they'll cut you manhood off
RE:RE:I totally agrree
by Sameer Bhatia on Feb 27, 2007 02:23 PM Permalink
Gr8 Nikhil U have hit right on the spot where it hurts them. Mr pradeep how can u use such words and talk of gandhi.
this is a great result i congratulate all the brave people of punjab wfor having taught a lesson to the invaders of the Golden Temple, the killers of sikhs and the killers of tamils in lanka.
RE:party of the crusaders has lost
by smruti parida on Feb 27, 2007 02:08 PM Permalink
Look, the incidents u all mentioned are definitely condemnable, but there is no reason to always feel revangeful for those things and keep nurturing this feeling till time immemorial. Having said that, I do agree that cong. is really inefficient, our PM is a poodle to Sonia. He doesnt use his own mind. They are bound to fall.
RE:RE:RE:party of the crusaders has lost
by Kanwar Vikrant on Feb 27, 2007 02:30 PM Permalink
hi, Whatever happened was bad? but lets try to forget this like a bad dream and lets not allow any politician to make fool of us by reminding us all such incidences... They have lot of other issues to talk about that are pertaining in our society... lets start judging our candidates based on his/her previous performance, credibility, integrity and honesity rather than what has been done 20 or 50 years back...Not offending anybody's personal opinions...
RE:RE:RE:RE:party of the crusaders has lost
by Hariharan on Feb 27, 2007 02:41 PM Permalink
Kanwar We forgot Partition, we forgot 1965 war, forgot 71 war , forgot Kargil . Can we atleast dream of secured india?? Bad should be forgotten, wortst thins created by people like dividing and still dividing like reservation to musilims,special status to some communities all should be forgottable things not history.
RE:party of the crusaders has lost
by navin aysola on Feb 27, 2007 02:05 PM Permalink
???? It's the government elected by people of this country!!! Who will u blame now?
RE:party of the crusaders has lost
by Ajit on Feb 27, 2007 01:53 PM Permalink
And Killers of hindus in north east , in jammu & kashmir ... in POK, congress is responsibile of creating Pakistan the land of all trouble
RE:Punjab Elections...lets change the game
by Jairaj Shinde on Feb 27, 2007 01:49 PM Permalink
the party that invaded the Golden Temple, killed sikhs in delhi and hindu tamils in lanka has lost this is good news . compared to congress even samajwadi party seems like peaceful, truly secular party
RE:RE:Punjab Elections...lets change the game
by Aviram Vijh on Feb 27, 2007 02:55 PM Permalink
the hard point mr.shinde is that congress is supposedly secular and BJP is supposedly pro hindu! babri masjid....and VHP...and gujrat, who'll mention that?
I sincerly apologize to all my indian brothers and sisters that im posting something here.Everytime is try to speak like an indian and try to drill some sense like denouncing religion and Congress/BJP things just spiral out of control and im called a fanatic and so on and so forth.I apologize to anything that could have hurt anyone
RE:I apologize.
by som aditya juyal on Feb 27, 2007 01:43 PM Permalink
Punjab elections show that anti-incumbancy factor holds high, and the poor voter has no choice but to vote the culprit of prevoius referendrum.
RE:I apologize.
by satish juplli on Feb 27, 2007 02:42 PM Permalink
Thx saif. We didn't mean to hurt you. The probelem only starts when u belive in something blindly, like the way you commented in your first post saying India as "Developed Afganistan". Which hurts anybody. How can you come to such conculstion. Dont fall for the cheap words by this so-called secular leaders. I guess You know who are they. Think on your own and come to a conclusion. Depend on facts rather than the speeches.
And last but not the least , you have no right to comment againstly on the victory of some political party. Learn to respect peoples verdict. Because they can decide what they want. They are good enough to decide it.
RE:I apologize.
by Ashish Chaskar on Feb 27, 2007 01:45 PM Permalink
Don't worry. You must think that you are an Indian first, then there is no problem.
There are extremists everywhere in the world. Those who does not have guts to go in real fight with terrorists, indulge themselves in critisizing innocent people - like you. These gutless poeple are in fact cowards - just like terrorists who does not have guts to start straight fights!
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by Sameer Bhatia on Feb 27, 2007 01:59 PM Permalink
Chaskar Saheb U r right.These gutless people will only try to give gospel.But people like u will go and fight the terrorist. Ask these ppl whether they r indian first or Muslim u will come out of the dreams.Thanx to them we see such comments from hindus.
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by Pradeep Kumar on Feb 27, 2007 02:03 PM Permalink
Hey dude sameer grow up man plz dont display your intellectual capabilities here.
RE:RE:RE:I apologize.
by Ashish Chaskar on Feb 27, 2007 02:12 PM Permalink
Sameer, I understand the frustration because of terrorism. But there is no point in accusing every muslim you run into! You must remember that all terrorist are muslims - yes unfortunately - but not all muslims are terrorists - fortunately!
So let's be balanced. No point harrassing people like Saif, when you really do not know what his personal thinking,views,actions are! That is what is my point. Blaming entire community does not need much brain.
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by Sameer Bhatia on Feb 27, 2007 02:29 PM Permalink
I really want to agree with u.But the problem is that whom to trust? u never know whom u r dealing with people caught as terrorist are doctors,engineer,computer professionals and what not?and why they dont come and condemn this they want the shariat they want reservation they want everything should be done by govt and the fruits should come to them.Why they dont teach that islam never preaches terror why these words only come from other religion.i also dont want to spit venom but people who say that india will become afghanistan.sorry this cant be tolerated.
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by Ashish Chaskar on Feb 27, 2007 03:08 PM Permalink
To add to what I said above, Ian Chappel recently said (in some another context, of course) that mixture of arrogance and stupidity is dangerous!
We should know where our arrogance would take us. Not knowing that, I think, is stupidity!
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by Ashish Chaskar on Feb 27, 2007 02:48 PM Permalink
yes, very true that educated Muslims are found as terrorists. That Guru who attacked Parliament is a professor!
But let me tell you what I do. When I have a doubt, I keep quiet and do not react. So I do not take risk of hurting innocent people.
There is absolutely no way to find the percentage of terrorists in any community. Might be, only few percentage is indugle in violant activities. But who knows?
Your other point that Muslims do not condemn terrorism - is not entirely correct. I see many muslims condemning act of violance.
I think there should be enough education and employment for everyone in country. That should be the focus of any government. And all citizens should concentrate of personal growth, which in turn will lead to country's growth.
Terrorism, yes very serious issue. But I think, we - as common people - can do very less about it. Can you go and identify terrorist and kill them? No - a common man can not. So I think, let government and security agencies do their job. (If they do not do, we all have right to vote to roght party.) But what we achieve by shouting and spreading hatred on public forums like rediff? Do you think by nailing some muslim in such debates, any good can be achieved. But on the contrary, risk is that, if that particular muslim is peaceful, he/she may become violant by constant nagging. You getting what I want to say?
So, I think, if we are in doubt, we should not react. By this way, atleast we will not risk of spreading more hatred and making someone violant by our constant nagging.
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by Sushil G B on Feb 27, 2007 02:49 PM Permalink
Excellent Sameer, I totally agree with you. If they are really feel as part of this Nation then why can't they agree to sing the National song "Vande Materam". Mind it, no religion is above your nation.
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by Kashi Akhoon on Feb 27, 2007 02:39 PM Permalink
yes Mr. Ashish, you are right every muslim is not yet a terrorist, but their number is increasing , the fault does not lie with Mr. saif But with the faith. Islam preaches Jihad and Jihad is Terrorism.As long as you are a muslim you have to follow the teachings of Islam and a humman being has to face the consequences of being a tolerant. If you are tolarent you have to pay the price sooner or later.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:I apologize.
by Ashish Chaskar on Feb 27, 2007 02:56 PM Permalink
Mr.Kashi, you are quite right in saying that the number is increasing. Onus is definately on Muslim community to come out of their backward thinking, lack of education, lack of employement and catch the progressive path.
My only point is, are we doing any good by nagging every muslim - that you guys are terrorists - we come across? My senses answer me negative and tell me that there is more risk involved in such activities.
RE:RE:RE:I apologize.
by saif naik on Feb 27, 2007 02:06 PM Permalink
Hey dude im an indian , that is why my family serves the army and is fighting terrorists in kashmir and nepal.PPl like you only know to spit out venom here. And im my apology this is precisely what i told, even if i apologize you ppl will drag it into another controvery.
