We believe Aurangazeb was a dictator.Yes durign his period many temples got destroyed.He has behaveed like a animal.We believe in islam religon of peace.We dont endorse actions of aurangazeb.We say loudly people like aurangazeb are not muslims.We should remove such people from history of india.
Aurangazen shpould be declared as a demon by all religious people of india.What ever injustice happened to hindu community should be paid back by the entire society.All the hindu temples he has demolished and constructed masques should be given back to hindus and temples be reconstructed by hindus. All the mslims of india should condemn the actions of Devil Aurangazen and support hindus for reconstructing their temples. than muslims of india can prove their secular credetials berfore the world. Symphtisers of aurangazeb to be punished sevearly because who supports devil are devils
RE:RE:RE:Aurangajeb - True demon for hindus
by Name on Mar 05, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
Any court u go its ok, but it should not be against Indian Laws.
You shud not be the worst follower of the Indian Laws.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Aurangajeb - True demon for hindus
by Perv Sharma on Mar 05, 2007 04:21 PM Permalink
NAME
TAlking about Indian Laws. Do muslims follow Only Indian Laws or some personal laws. if so, then can't hindus follow their own law however it may because after all india is a hindu mojority country.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Aurangajeb - True demon for hindus
by In on Mar 05, 2007 04:52 PM Permalink
Its compulsary for muslims to obey the Muslim laws and also the Indian laws.. Religion is as important to muslims as country is.
We expect same from u. Its not the matter of following the religious laws; Its our country and as far as Criminal laws are concerned, which directly affect the group of people and society, it shud be dealt in Indian Court of Laws
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Aurangajeb - True demon for hindus
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 02:06 PM Permalink
The Shariat should be followed even in cases of crime - a Muslim who robs should have his hands cut off, only then will the crime rate drop (most criminals in India are Muslims)
RE:RE:RE:RE:Aurangajeb - True demon for hindus
by on Mar 05, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
Really well said sharp.I appreciate your bold and fair statement. Islam is religion of peace.We never support actions of dictators like aurangazeb. We are with all indians. We dont endorse actions of this dictatory aurangazeb. We will be happy if our Hindu brothers get justice for the wrong happened during Aurangazeb rule.
RE:RE:Aurangajeb - True demon for hindus
by sharp head on Mar 05, 2007 12:37 PM Permalink
great message.Secular india can be built by all religious people.Devil is a devil what ever religion he belongs to.Aurangazeb is a true devil
RE:Aurangajeb - True demon for hindus
by Golu Gayani on Mar 05, 2007 09:52 PM Permalink
Absolutely Correct Big Brother. A partner in crime is a criminal. And we all must refuse to support suck folks like Aurangzeb.
TOLERANCE / RESPECTS TO OTHER RELIGION IS ONE OF THE BASIC REQUIREMENT OF ANY RELIGION. RELIGION IS A FAITH OF A HUMAN BEING. IT SHOULD NOT BE IMPOSED UPON ANY ONE.JUSTICE, EQUALITY, FRATERNITY AND LIBERTY AND MUST BE THERE.
RE:TOLERANCE A BASICS DHAMMA.
by Name on Mar 05, 2007 12:37 PM Permalink
Good message dineshchandra, and this is best described by Islam. In the chapter for 'sabr'.
RE:RE:TOLERANCE A BASICS DHAMMA.
by Perv Sharma on Mar 05, 2007 12:43 PM Permalink
Best described By Islam and worst followed by its so proclaimed followers. Probably then they are all illiterate to understand or have been taught a different meaning right from their parents to mullahs
RE:RE:RE:RE:TOLERANCE A BASICS DHAMMA.
by Ramesh P on Mar 07, 2007 05:43 AM Permalink
But what when they have seperate courts ?? Justice is killed by shariat law, no equality in Islam between Males and Females, between Muslism and Non-Muslims, With Muslims themselves. No Liberty as well, no one dares to talk against Islam and it refuses to accept anything liberal. Viel for women, fatwas, shariat laws killed Liberalism already. So whatever you say don't hold good for ISLAM.
MUSLIMS LIVE AS EXTREMISTS IN MINORITY AND AS OPPRESSORS IN MAJORITY - these words are true and they are not said by me but a famous NY Times columnist.
RE:RE:to understand islam visit clikinfo.blogspot.com
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 02:10 PM Permalink
If one reads the Quran, one will become an aggressive fundamentalist
RE:fed up of muhammden nonsense
by anand yni on Mar 04, 2007 10:49 PM Permalink
Why do you hate all the muslims for the fault of a miniscule minority of them? In any case, the story of Aurangazeb is very old and you can not take revenge against him. Why bother others? Relax my friend.
RE:RE:fed up of muhammden nonsense
by sukhvinder singh on Mar 04, 2007 11:51 PM Permalink
The legacy of aurangzeb exists till now... so u may be relaxing in ur a/c house right now, but u ur children come 20-30yrs will probably be living through another partition (riots). so dont relax too much my friend, instead take responsibility.
its cuz of relaxed pseudo seculars like u india is slowy sliding in to another 1947 type partition scenario.
so u have a choice 1. either keep relaxing and wait til ur area is filled with muslims and one day in a riot ur house is attacked and ur female members of ur household are gangraped and looted/murdered. or, 2. take responsibility now by educating, awakening and supporting fellow hindus, sikhs about teh threats of islam to peace loving and liberal minded people and sociteies etc.
RE:RE:RE:fed up of muhammden nonsense
by pankaj sharma on Mar 05, 2007 05:07 PM Permalink
Sukhvinder u are very correct .So called secular Indians re short sighted. In another 20-30 Muslims pupolation will over take reast of the popution and then .......( they condition will become worse than the Jews of Germany)
RE:RE:fed up of muhammden nonsense
by chaitanya kumar on Mar 04, 2007 11:47 PM Permalink
how do you know it's minscule? how many muslim homes have you visited and how many mosques. how much do you know about the inernal structure of how their codes are practiced in their community. and did you debate nationalism or religion with Muslims and what he/she believes are their priorities. Don't act too innocent man. Hindus got screwed for those reasons only. Know more about Muslim.
RE:RE:RE:fed up of muhammden nonsense
by Name on Mar 05, 2007 12:55 PM Permalink
And chaitanya kumar, how many places have u visited. How many Muslims have u met. How many chapters of Quran and hadis have u studied.
Don't act overconfidently without knowing the subject.
RE:RE:RE:RE:fed up of muhammden nonsense
by Ramesh P on Mar 07, 2007 05:52 AM Permalink
Met many, went to a debate conducted by muslims - Understanding Other Faiths which ended up more as "praising and glorifying islam" than actually trying to really understand other faiths. All of them are engineers, few medicos as well. It just shows what muslims are, irrespective or thier educational level, thier intellect is screwed up. I wasted 4 hrs on this stupid event. Attended quite a few muslim marriages and off late I can clearly see that the very same muslisms who used to speak the local language (telugu) stopped speaking that now converse with us only in Urdu, even though they know that we don't understand urdu and infact they have been speaking telugu at home till a few years back. This shows the effect of Oil Money on Indian Muslims where they were taught that anything they follow is inferior or "Hindu" and only Arabic is the purest form of Islam, making all indian muslims slaves of Arabs. Kids who refuse to wear the Skull cap are beaten up by thier parents, sometimes even the neighbors beatup others kids in the name of the kid bringing "disgrace" to islam by not doing Namaz. Surprisingly the parents support the neighbor even though he has beaten up thier kid - thats what Islam does to its followers. Ppl have seen enough of ISLAM and thats the reason why they write here, don't think that ISLAM is a "CLOSED SECRET SECT".
RE:RE:RE:fed up of muhammden nonsense
by Name on Mar 05, 2007 01:31 PM Permalink
At first Slave is Haram in Islam, Wheter buy or sale both are not permitted and are severe sin and crime in Islam.
And for other.. God is God. He is the only one, as described in all the religious script. As for eg father is one, big one or small one it diesn't matter he is the only one. Similarly God is one.
Earlier I used to listen statement like, Allah tera lakh lakh shukr hai, now i listen Bhagwan tera lakh lakh shukr hai.
Earlier i used to listen, Allah sab janta hai sab dekhta hai; now i listen Bhagwan sab janta hai sab dekhta hai;..
Earlier I used to listen Allah se dar, now i listen Bhagwan se dar.
Many more....
What a copy paste still they claim Islam and the concept of God is wrong.
RE:RE:RE:RE:fed up of muhammden nonsense
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 02:26 PM Permalink
The language you used above is Hindi/Urdu, so it can be Allah or Bhagwan, as one pleases, besides these sentences were there even before the advent of Islam in India (when the word 'Allah' was unknown)
RE:RE:fed up of muhammden nonsense
by SHUQ on Mar 05, 2007 09:33 AM Permalink
Why United States attack Afghanistan and Iraq?
Yes, not because of terrorists but because of oil resources of Causpean Sea and Iraq. Since Taleban and Saddam were bold and arrogant and cannot be used as ploys. United states get rid of them.
RE:RE:RE:fed up of muhammden nonsense
by Perv Sharma on Mar 05, 2007 04:34 PM Permalink
Yeah the fighting in kashmir is fake. Only indian army is at fact. A perfect solution in islam. Whatever U do is just and when others retaliate it's at fault.
RE:RE:Scotland Yard to set up Hindu Safety Forum
by Chankya Pandit on Mar 05, 2007 02:21 PM Permalink
Some muslims are not able to digest the truth, so they are clicking 'abuse' button. Here is the same message again:
Problems of Hindu girls in UK and Scotland Yard to set up Hindu Safety Forum
'Hindu girls targeted by extremists' Thursday, February 22, 2007
Muslim extremists who try to force teenage Hindu girls to convert to Islam are being targeted in a new police crackdown. The recruiters often paid 5,000 British Pounds - About Rupees Fifty Thousand - for each success and are stepping up aggressive conversion tactics, especially around universities, religious leaders believe. The Metropolitan Police have stepped in after commissioner Sir Ian Blair said many Hindus felt neglected by Scotland Yard. Some young students have been beaten up and forced to abandon their courses by extremists, Hindu leaders told a security conference. Islamic extremists invited the girls on dates before beginning campaigns of 'terrorism' until they converted, they claimed. Ramesh Kallidai, from the Hindu Forum of Britain, said: Extremist Muslims make life miserable for Hindu girls. Some are petrified; they feel these men have complete hold on them. One girl was beaten up in the street and others have been forced to leave university. The problem was most common in cities such as Birmingham, Leeds and Bradford, he added, while London universities had at least two or three cases each. Mr Kallidai estimated hundreds of girls had been targeted, with some reports of Muslim boys being offered ?5,000 'commissions.
The National Union of Students said it did not want to discriminate against Muslims but agreed some extremists were causing concern. They have managed to infiltrate Brunel University in West London, Bedfordshire University, Sheffield Hallam University and Manchester Metropolitan University, according to a Muslim charity. Sheikh Musa Admani, a troubleshooting imam, fears many radicals are easily by-passing university bans on extremist sects such as Hizb ut Tahrirs and Al-Mujahiroun.
SCOTLAND YARD is to set up a Hindu Safety Forum with aggressive conversion as its top priority. Sir Ian said: 'There is a feeling in the Hindu community that we have not given them as much attention as other groups.
RE:RE:RE:Scotland Yard to set up Hindu Safety Forum
by Ram Naik on Mar 05, 2007 10:34 PM Permalink
Thanks chaitanya kumar for reproducing the wrongly and unfairly deleted post.
In my post I had I had just reproduced a news item from METRO news paper. METRO is a free newspaper distributed at the London Underground Tube Stations and has an estimated readership of 980,000 as of September 2006
The same news has been published by many other newspapers in UK and the news is still available in their official websites. To mention just a few with the websites The Daily Mail London Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair with his statement Police and universities working together to tackle aggressive conversions http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=437871&in_page_id=1770#StartComments
The Times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1464601.ece
Lfe Style Extra http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=NI2234346D&news_headline=islamic_student_recruiters_targetted_by_cops_
This is London from The Evening Standard http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23386539-details/Police protect girls forced to convert to Islam/article.do
It is unfortunate that something which about millions of London and UK papers have published and read and is not considered readable by someone in India, unless he himself is ashamed of it and does not want other to know.
As of rediff, shame on you. This news affecting the Indian community in UK for the past several years probably needs a separate article and should not to be censored. Grow up rediff and please don%u2019t go on self denial mode again.
RE:RE:Scotland Yard to set up Hindu Safety Forum
by Ram Naik on Mar 05, 2007 10:45 PM Permalink
Well SHUQ, why did you avoid the 8 other comments in the same paper or the following which probably are direct on this news in UK papers
Added: 23 Feb '07 This is NOT nonensense! It is TRUE! Just because it has personally not affected you, it does not mean that it is not happening. There is photographic evidence that shows this actively happening. It almost happened to me and I hope that all Sikh and Hindy girls are strong enough not to fall into the traps of these men. What does religion teach you? Does it teach you to look down on women? To treat others differently? I certainly know that the Sikh religion teaches love, EQUALITY and compassion. Whatever religion you are you should REPECT OTHERS! A message for all Sikh and Hindu girls : BE INDEPENDANT, KEEP YOUR GUARDS UP AND DO NOT LET ANY MAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU IN ANYWAY. IF THIS IS HAPPENING TO YOU ACCORDING TO THE REPORT ABOVE THERE IS HELP! RAISE THE ISSUE TO YOUR LOCAL STUDENTS UNION, THE POLICE, POST A MESSAGE TO THE BBC AND MAKE OTHER GIRLS AWARE. NO ONE RELIGIN IS SUPERIOR TO ANOTHER - THATS JUST MAN'S VIEW - NOT GOD'S VIEW. - Ranj
This conversion has been long known in the Hindu community and has been happening for a long time. My family have been affected by this situation many years ago. I remember my parents taking me aside in the 90's and warning me not to be too friendly with MUSLIMS. Why you may ask? At the time, a cousin of mine had been involved with a muslim boy and had run away to live with him. Many years later, a single mum with the father abandoning her soon after the birth. My neice is now 12. - anon
Added: Tue 12:03 This has been going on for a while, since late 1990s, but only seems to have surfaced now inn the mainstream. Moreover, the same groups are still active under different names. Each time they get banned by the SU they appear under a new name in the following year. Yet the police or NUS have done nothing about. I sincerely hope that Met and other police forces NUS take this seriously and act accordingly. - ASP
Added: 24 Feb '07 I am a muslim guy and I am deeply disturbed by what I read. I am truly sorry for harrasment that these girls experienced. I am also angry by this shouvinists "muslims". If they had any basic religious education (and common decency) they should know that Islam strictly forbids coercion in faith. I am sorry. - Tarik
This has been going on for a very long time, Indian (Mainly Sikh and Hindu) children have always been taught the equality of all religions and it is this sense of innocence which has been taken advantage of by the extreme element of Islam. There have also been many cases of Indian women married to Pakistani's, taken back to Pakistan and sold into prostitution. The only way we can combat this is by communities getting together and fight this. Not to brush this under the carpet because of the "shame" this causes. S. Kaur, London,
The greatest intellect of modern India was the late Sri. Sita Ram Goel, in my humble opinion. He makes a meticulously argued case with facts and yet was persecuted by the Govt. of India because his conclusions were unpalatable. Mr. Gautier has just scratched the surface yet.
RE:India needs more people like Sita Ram Goel
by ravi shetty on Mar 04, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
Dear secular indian i have been reading your postings for past few days.It is enlightning,decent and truthful.keep posting and keep up the good work.
RE:RE:RE:India needs more people like Sita Ram Goel
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 02:56 PM Permalink
On that same web-site, someone has posted, "please understand that to date i have to seen the proof that this great ved prakash upadhyaya ever existed". Even if he existed, let me tell you that no book called, "kalkiavatar aur muhammed sahib" has been ever written. If it has been written, give me the publisher's name or show me any web-site, it is listed in
Francois, its a shame on you.. You are playing devide and rule policy again.. We kicked you guys out and you are coming from another corner.. Dont devide Hindu and Muslims.. I heard Aurangzeb donated Golden Temple land to Sikhs.. And today's young hindu minds are very corrupt.. They are like killers and rapist of Gujarat and call themselves proudly as Hindu..
RE:Shame on You
by SHUQ on Mar 05, 2007 11:13 AM Permalink
Well said! Neha Kothari
A bold approach towards nationalism and against europeans which is almost neglected as of today. Instead, our youngsters proudly adapt European and American Culture.
Many youngsters only knows the history written by britishers and preached by RSS. They do not know the history written by their own men. They only believe in hatred.
We are discussing Sikh history with Neha and UR Mullah's History is only correct. Go and ask him when was Aurangzeb born and when was teh golden Temple built.
RE:RE:Shame on You
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 03:12 PM Permalink
Shuq, The RSS doesn't accept history the way the British wrote it, so stop kidding us
RE:RE:Shame on You
by Secular Indian on Mar 05, 2007 12:31 PM Permalink
Well then I would like to point you to the history written by Indians, I hope that clarifies things for you.
RE:Shame on You
by rahim on Mar 05, 2007 04:51 PM Permalink
Dear neha We accept and respect you intention to make statement of nation integrity and want to please our muslim brothers.really good.But when you want to please muslim brothers take good examples like Respected APJ Abdul kalam and praise the muslim community. Aurangazeb is a shame to humanity-he has behaved like a devil when he was a ruler.please dont try to please some community by taking wrond examples.
RE:RE:Shame on You
by rahim on Mar 05, 2007 04:56 PM Permalink
well written-Aurangazeb was a devil-people who praise devil we can understand what kind of people they are.
RE:Shame on You
by Ankit Khanna on Mar 04, 2007 01:49 PM Permalink
Are you a historian ?? Can u refute the facts mentioned ?? Some of it is even there is class 10 history text books.
We didn't kick the likes of Francois out, they were British. At least get 1 fact right when u open your mouth !!
RE:RE:Shame on You
by Mahesh Sampat on Mar 05, 2007 03:15 AM Permalink
You too get u're facts right Mr Ankit. We not only kicked out the british but we also kicked out the Frenchies like Gautier from Pondicherry(now Pudhucherry)long ,long ago. Or did'nt u're RSS bosses teach u these basic history lessons?
RE:RE:RE:Shame on You
by Secular Indian on Mar 05, 2007 05:00 AM Permalink
Ignorance can be fixed.
FYI:
"Jawaharlal Nehru, despite his genuine nationalist sentiments, resolved to keep a window open to the French and offered domicile in India to all those French nationals who wanted to stay here. Thus, at the moment there are over 8,000 French citizens in India enjoying the rare privilege of electing their representative for the democratic institutions in French and having their own cultural and academic institutions in India."
RE:RE:RE:Shame on You
by Perv Sharma on Mar 05, 2007 08:13 AM Permalink
Well read and well said? You read history only to read but not analyse. A big mistake on teachers teaching History. U kicked out britishers from India. Do you know who kicked the Islamic rulers out of India. Tbe Britishers entry into India only made life easy for Hindus. They again managed to practice their religion without fear. The britishers were here for only the money. The direct impact of British rule in India was on the Ruling class Islamic tyrants who had been treating Hindus like slaves for almost 550 years i.e. till the death of Aurangzeb. Can you name any Mughal emperor worth his salt on Indian soil after that.
But, India continued to face Islamic onslaugh from Afganistan after Aurangzeb's death. But once britishers came over the onslaughts were stopped and allowed hindus to regroup again.
Regarding Kicking out. Well, the britishers only went away because the wealth of India had been shipped away. Now India was only a White Elephant for the Britishers. That's the only reason Britishers left rather then than being kicked out.The brains of Britishers were just too much for either Hindus or Muslims. Muslims could only raid and run. Akbar realised to stay here he had befriend the warriors rajputs of Rajastan and have control over North India for stability.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Shame on You
by Secular Indian on Mar 05, 2007 08:28 AM Permalink
The Mughals actually decided to stay because they realized that it would be easier to simply collect taxes from a country that already had the infrastructure and was otherwise stable. There was no point in coming all the way looting and returning back to (modern day) Uzbekistan. This way they could not only do Allahs work but also get rich at the same time.
RE:RE:RE:Shame on You
by Golu Gayani on Mar 05, 2007 08:02 AM Permalink
Mr. Sampat it seems you were consulted by Aurangzeb during Golden temple donation and Neha built it for Aurangzeb.
RE:Shame on You
by Secular Indian on Mar 04, 2007 02:56 PM Permalink
Where did you hear that the Aurangzeb donated the land for the Golden temple to the Sikhs ? The foundations stone was laid in 1589! More revisionist non-sense from an uneducated Indian.
Aurangzeb killed Guru Tegh Bahadur, regarding Banda Bahadur he was not only tortured and killed by the Mughals but his four year old sons heart was torn out and stuffed into his mouth. What sort of fantasy world are you living in ?
Agreed, Muslims are a revisionist lot since you have proved to all and sundry that the prophet himself was violent, was a bad example and Muslims were the first victims of Islam. Now that you have made them feel guilty of their religion, their very origins, I have a few questions for you.
What makes the HIndu fundamentalists behave like maniacs although they are products of a great world civilisation called Hinduism. When you question the very basis of the origin of Islam and label it as fundamentally violent, you fail to notice anything good about the religion. Your arguments seem to have only one end: To prove to the Muslim that his religion has no place in a modern setup. But you stop at that. You don't suggest an alternative for them. Realistically, do you think your approach adds any value to the debate on reducing Hindu Muslim tensions.
Now, I would like an answer that does not state your opposition to evils of certain Hindu practises, because you have not applied that rationale to Islam and its followers.
RE:RE:RE:Shame on You
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 03:02 PM Permalink
Hindu fundamentalists have cropped up only to stop the muslim aggression in India, so strongly supported by the Congress-I
RE:RE:RE:Shame on You
by Golu Gayani on Mar 05, 2007 08:06 AM Permalink
Unsung Ok if you wnat to challenge Mr Secular then why do not you give and example from history where a new born Muslim kids heart was ripped and put in his fathers mouth and father was killed? Gosh, how much savage this Beast Aurangzeb was.....
RE:RE:RE:Shame on You
by Secular Indian on Mar 05, 2007 02:29 AM Permalink
I just realized that I haven't answered you question regarding the alternatives. I'm in the business of description not prescription. I'm not capable of providing advice along the lines you compel or seek. This is a challenge for Muslims, see the truth and then do "the right thing".
RE:Shame on You
by darshan b on Mar 05, 2007 08:49 AM Permalink
biggest thing in life would be if you learned to accept things as it is. Now think for yourself.
RE:Shame on You
by seek the truth on Mar 04, 2007 11:05 PM Permalink
if you believe you are right then visit : clikinfo.blogspot.com and see truth for yourself before you call other people names
RE:Shame on You
by sadiq hussain on Mar 04, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
well said neha ,"no more divide and rule". Like i said why is this issue raised by a foreigner,well wat does he want,why is he concerned about our history,why is he sympathetic.I have been raising concerns abt this but where is Mr.Francois?Woh tho chinagaari laga ke chala gaya.Reh gaye hum,hindus and muslims, blaming each other.I pity our young minds.God help us all in being united.
RE:RE:RE:Shame on You
by rahim on Mar 05, 2007 04:44 PM Permalink
Please dont blame all muslims for the sake of few muslims. There are good muslims in india like respected APJ Abdul kalam.We are proud to say he is from muslim community. All muslims are not responsible for the actions of Aurangazeb,Dawood ibahim etc etc. we condemn their actions. We are secular muslims who respect our mother land india and fellow indians.
The election in UP is round the corner and this type of provocative articles have started pouring in. Fellow Indians, Beware with this. At last we common man are the sufferers of the consequences of this kind of provocation.
RE:The truth about Aurangzeb
by darshan b on Mar 05, 2007 08:57 AM Permalink
Hey my common man Do something. Why dont you write a column on your fellowmen who kill in the name of God and take a procession against them and then i will come with you to support you.
RE:The truth about Aurangzeb
by manish varma on Mar 04, 2007 07:07 PM Permalink
Hi Farid and Sadiq, Nice to have decent chaps like you to discuss such issues in rational way and not maniacal way. Please think over following issues.
1. Is it incorrect that Aurangzeb demolished temples and built mosques? 2. Is it incorrect that he killed people for being hindus on religious lines, highly abhorable in today's civilized society? 3. Prima facie Gujarat CM can only be accused of not being able to take preventive actions, but AURANGZEB ORDERED EXECUTIONS OF HINDUS. Can this fact be denied? 4. If all these facts are correct, is not AURANGZEB AS BIG A CRIMINAL OF HISTORY AS HITLER.
Please think on these issues and then come against this article.
RE:RE:The truth about Aurangzeb
by In on Mar 05, 2007 07:46 PM Permalink
Who ever has killed or is killing innocents is criminal (without any Partiality). Comparing one with other is meaningless.
If someone is killing my friend and if I say I only didn't stopped the killer in doing so, (even though I had power); doesn't mean I was right. And also at the time it wasn't confirmed train mishappening was an accident or really it was attacked by anyone.
RE:RE:The truth about Aurangzeb
by sadiq hussain on Mar 06, 2007 06:26 PM Permalink
well i have nothing to say abt aurangazeb,he was on "TRUTH".He did not spare his own brothers for the sake of TRUE path.That was sacrifice.So,how many of us, watever religion ,can do this today? well i want ur private email if u dont mind to further keep blogging.Coz this has gone too long.Thanx.
RE:RE:RE:The truth about Aurangzeb
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 03:27 PM Permalink
So, was Hitler also 'on truth'? Aurangzeb killed his brothers so they would not pose a threat to his throne
RE:The truth about Aurangzeb
by darshan b on Mar 05, 2007 09:17 AM Permalink
Hey my common man Do something. Why dont you write a column on your fellowmen who kill in the name of God and take a procession against them and then i will come with you to support you.
RE:The truth about Aurangzeb
by Ankit Khanna on Mar 04, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
Hi Farid, I fail to understand what is provocative about the article. It points a finger at a 17th century maniac for his cruelty and not at Muslims in general.
It can seem provocative only to someone who beleives in the doctrine of Aurangzeb. Do you ??
And please, where did up elections arrive like a bolt from the blue ?? Get out of the consiparcy theory mindset. This article is not against muslims, its against Aurangzeb !!
RE:RE:The truth about Aurangzeb
by sadiq hussain on Mar 04, 2007 04:47 PM Permalink
Dear lovely Ankit,my dear ankit,U should know what is good wat is wrong,leave alone 17 th century,tell us all about Gujarat riots.i think those were not so loooooooong ago.Saddam was hanged for killing a cpl of hundrend of kurds.Do u dare to plead USA to mete out same punishment to The then GUJ CM?Food 4 thought,well u think abt it fella.
RE:RE:RE:The truth about Aurangzeb
by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 03:17 PM Permalink
The Gujarat riots were in retaliation to muslim aggressiveness. Take the recent demolition of a dargah in the middle of a Road in Baroda - didn't muslims retaliate?
RE:RE:RE:The truth about Aurangzeb
by shawaji bhosale on Mar 04, 2007 08:14 PM Permalink
ear sadiq, leave alone 5 years back old things happened in gujarat, how about talking few months back train blast in mumbai? cdo you dare to pleade Bush to carpet bomb all muslims mohallas for that?
RE:RE:RE:The truth about Aurangzeb
by Ankit Khanna on Mar 04, 2007 09:18 PM Permalink
Well sadiq, this is exactly what i mean by the 'conspiracy theory syndrome' affecting so many muslim youth like you.
I questioned Aurangzeb and I recieved replies ranging from UP elections, to Gujarat to Iraq.
I'll tell you Guajarat was a crime .. do you accept that Aurangzeb was a criminal ?? If you can, then please answer in a yes or no ... and, for God's sake, for once, please do not drag Bush into the debate !!!
RE:RE:The truth about Aurangzeb
by praveen thakur on Mar 04, 2007 08:58 PM Permalink
dear sadique, If you speak for Gujrat Riot you should not forget about the brytual killing of innocent hindus in the train which was the instant reason of the riot? You this was a secular act done by Muslims? Or you wanna say if muslim kills Pandits in Kashmir this is Jehad? Where do you hide at that time Mr. Seculars?
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by Dr_Ramanand Rao on Mar 09, 2007 03:23 PM Permalink
The Gujarat riots were in retaliation to muslim aggressiveness. Take the recent demolition of a dargah in the middle of a Road in Baroda - didn't muslims retaliate? Retaliation should be expected when something is wrong
RE:The truth about Aurangzeb
by darshan b on Mar 05, 2007 08:56 AM Permalink
Hey my common man Do something. Why dont you write a column on your fellowmen who kill in the name of God and take a procession against them and then i will come with you to support you.
RE:The Minds reared by Islam
by farooq ali on Mar 05, 2007 04:36 PM Permalink
Dear Layman,
If you have visited ali sina'a website then please also go through with this site www.faithfreedom.com..ali sina is a brutal lier you will get his replies here..
