We have read the recent exposure of fake encounters in kashmir, it comes as a shock and equally as a surprise. We learned that Messacre of Sikhs and Pandits out of which C.B.I has filed a challan agains the army(involved in the crime), case still in court. Exposure of sex scandal involving high ranking police and civil officials. NOw the fake encouter of disappeared persons who acoording to some estomates cross 10000 fogure. I think there is alimit to digest and one is sure to vomit if crossing a limit. By exposing the fake encounters a few individuals will be effected i think this is probably the easy way to allow the people to lent their anger who at the end of the day are the sufferers in any kind of conflict.
Like terrorists we have some black sheeps in the Police and Army too. It is these mindless people who kill people for their own gains. Kashmiri's and others have to understand that it is terrorism that is giving these mindless police personnel a chance and a reason to kill people in fake encounters. It is a simple game. When a terrorist kills a police officer he gets rewarded by his bosses and that too as high the rank as big the award. Same is the case with police and Army, you kill a terrorist, you are rewarded. Why are these awards given. If a pollice person is doing his regular duty, why should he be awarded. Awards should be based on overall performance in the force. These awards lure some coward police officers and personnel and they get into fake encounters. Terrorist organisations have a compulsion to award their commanders for killing Army and Police. But that compulsion should not be there in the forces. There has to be a difference between Human and In-human and also a Police person and a terrorist. It is for people to make a choice. People who are crying for their dear ones on streets of Kashmir today should have courage to cry for innocents and police persons those get killed by terrorists, which unfortunately is not the case. A police person or an army man dies like a dog for them and a terrorist is given a salute and taken on shoulders with slogans of Azadi and Pakistan.
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by muzafar on Feb 05, 2007 02:27 PM Permalink
that means u know that these people are freedom fighters in kashmir n when they die they are treated as martyrs whileas when ur forces are killed they r treated as dogs. then why are your forces still there coz u want to keep kashmir occupied and u dont have courage to face the historical facts and truth about kashmir.
The act of killing innocents for the sake of rewards and recognition is highly deplorable. However I have one question for Mr. Azad:- When is the countdown for zero tolerance to terrorist activities going to start?
It certainly makes no sense that you demand release of a deadly terrorist when he is sentenced to life penalty by none other than the Supreme Court and go on hunting your own officials to win appreciation from International community and so called human rights people. Is MR. Azad also not as gulity as these officers are made out to be?
Jk mess is created by nehar, gandhi, indira and now upa is commiting bludner not a single terrorist punished from last 17 yrs b'cuz they are kashmiri mulsims why media is not making any noise about genociadal masscare and ethenic cleansing of KPs from the valley. where was such comapssion, pain or sympathy and HRAs, when hindus are butchered? media failed to highlight the govt failure to protect innoncent ppl and wrong policies which are defaming army and police . these culprits should be killed in encounter no need to arrest court case, media discussion and presd pardeon The culprits will be supported by our pseudu secular intellectuals, famous writers, spine less leaders and top muslim and half muslim bosses and sic liar journalists and HRAs all terrorists should be killed in encouter
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by imtiyaz dar on Feb 06, 2007 12:29 PM Permalink
Mr. Bhat is grossly mistaken in his conception of facts of kashmir problem.He doesn,t have slightest idea of problems faced by civilians and security forces. Sitting in the comforts of his abode he painted a picture by collecting bits and pieces from press. Indian security is shoutung loud to justify their presence in the state for security of people, but it turns up it is the reverse what they have done.
When we are involved in a LICO (low intensity combat operations) - like the one happening in kashmir or north east, where the enemy is normally unseen and could be anyone, including your next door neighbour, there are times when such collateral casualites do happen. No soldier or no police man is saddist to such an extent that he wantingly kills innocent.
These killings happen either because it was prooved beyond reasonable doubts that the persons in custody are eithe dangerous people or helping dangerous people - but without any legal evidence and therefore letting them loose will be a serious treat to the society.
but many times, it does happen that due to mistaken identity or due to a personal rivalry between the guy in custody and an informer, wrong information are passed on to the interrogator - who when using 3rd degree interrogation techniques, find that the line has been crossed and letting the guy in custody to be free will be more unacceptable than killing him....thus he is forced to kill the guy in custody.
Believe me, I have done it when I was in the Army - and I never liked it..but neverthless had to do it....
RE:Fake Encounters ? What are they ? Memories of a soldier !!!!
by fez on Feb 05, 2007 10:13 AM Permalink
Liberate Kashmiris from the clutches of fanatic Indian Government. Why don't we conduct a UN referundum as agreed after India's independence. Let us get rid of these kashmiri traitors and invest the defence money towards development of India. Believe me we can be the Super-power in next 10 years if we don't spend even a single penny towards the defence.
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by seek the truth on Apr 09, 2007 11:21 PM Permalink
to conduct referendum who of kashmir should be handed over to india as per UN resolution
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by kashif zaman on Feb 05, 2007 10:21 AM Permalink
Mr Muthu i strongly condem ur henious act,At no point killing of innocent is justified.and you should be ashamed of your barbarism,You are the PPl who ignite fire, You justifying that you are not trained well during ur training period,and u r proving that one of the strongest institution (army)is not working well. Mr Muttu there is always a difference between terrorist and a "State"or a responsible country men,Terrorist kill innocents to terrorise the civilian,But "State" should not kill innocent to terrorise the "Terrorist" May God Bless you and enlighten your life,i feel very sorry for you,Your mother must very ashamed of you
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by debabrata gupta on Feb 05, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
This mail shows the blatant disrespect for human life that the army harbours among its soldiers (if the person above- Mr. Iyyappan indeed served the army as he claims). Under no circumstance, should the MURDER of innocent human lives be justified and if somebody in uniform does it, I feel it should be treated as a ten times more heinous crime than if any other civilian had committed it.
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by imtiyaz dar on Feb 06, 2007 12:40 PM Permalink
Given the chance a person like you in the uniform, belt and rank(unknown) would have even killed Mr. M.K.Ghandi. You would be making a hero of the killers of Julian Wala messacre. But shame on people like you who bring a disrepute to an institution of high decipline and morale. Perhapes you should be aware that indian army is on U.N peace keeping mission in some parts of the world. You are putting their reputation at stake?
I think this time we should take some drastic step like what we had taken at tthe time of PUNJAB Terrorism. Our politicians are useless for taking such decisions. It is proved when Kargil happened, when Bangladesh Rifels people killed our 15 BSF personnels. When we had attacked on parlienment. Till today we are unable to give hang till death sentennce to AFZAL GURU. So i would like to remind Kashmirs CM that whatever he has stated in his statement about fake encounters is applicable to Afzal Guru also. Can he explain about it that why he has supported his statement in his favour? Those who have killed in that atack were not innocent? I think all these politicians are useless. They only see their own interest. They do not do anything for Indian People they do it for themselves. So we all edicated indians whould think now before voting.
I AM CONFUSED. I REALY DO NOT UNDERSTAND BY HUMAN WORD. IN JUNGLE EVERY LIFE HAS ITS OWN NATURAL IDENTITY - TIGER, LION, CATS AND DOGS ETC - THEY LOOK SEPARATE AND BEHAVE HONEST TO THEIR NATURE. BUT IN OUR SOCIETY WE HAVE ALL TYPES OF ANIMALS BUT IN HUMAN FACE! THEIR BEHAVIOUR IS LIKE THOSE ANIMALS AND NOT LIKE HUMAN BEING. BUT WE TALK ON HUMAN RIGHTS! CAN ANY BODY EXPLAIN? I AM REALLY CONFUSED BY SEEING WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THIS PLANET EARTH.
Murder by policemen under the guise of "encounters" is going on in every state of the Union. This is not a pecualiarity for Kashmir and I cannot see why Ghulam Nabi Azad making a big hue and cry about it. He should visit Mumbai first and start a campaign against encounter killings. What is happening in Kashmir is nothing compared to the large scale encounters in states like Maharashtra, Bihar etc.
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by Sudevan Panickar on Feb 05, 2007 10:00 AM Permalink
dear nair, dont confuse situation in mumbai to that exist in j&K. In mumbai encounter killing targets only known criminals with underworld nexus wheras in J&K innocent civiians are killed under the guise of militants. This is deplorable !
This is so disgusting.How can someone stoop so low to get admiration and recognition.It is unfortunate that we have such news in the same country where some Indians are creating news for winning laurels for the country.
I guess Indian society and its thought process is beyond repair now.
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by sameer B on Feb 05, 2007 08:51 AM Permalink
Good Rishi you are right. Few years back I met one Major in Goa. He was posted in Baramulla District. He told that when terrorist kills civillians or any army personnel then no body shouts and tells to these terrorists that it is against Human Rights. But when any Police or Army person kills these terrorists then these so called Human Rights Persons shouts about it.
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by debabrata gupta on Feb 05, 2007 10:40 AM Permalink
But the mistake you are making is that one is called a "terrorist" (which means violators of human rights, ...) and the other is called "policeman/ soldier" (which means upholder of human rights, ...).
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by Raj Sekar on Feb 05, 2007 09:30 AM Permalink
We have lost enough blood shed for Kashmir. One viable solution to remove the law which does not allow indians to purchase a land in Kashmire and take away the cultivable land and share it with jobless men and supply them arms to protect them from insurgents. This will kill militancy as a whole.
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by muthu krishnan iyyappan on Feb 05, 2007 10:07 AM Permalink
you are absolutely right...raj...once we get away with the ethnic cleansing method of terrorist - supported by govt legislation which isolates kashmir from the rest of india, the kashmir problem will be solved once and for all....take punjab.....
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by debabrata gupta on Feb 05, 2007 10:38 AM Permalink
Before I say anything else, I must say that I do not know if what you say (about people being targeted) is true!! Assuming you are true, even then it does not justify killing innocent civilians!! The policemen who did it are no better than the terrorists whom we decry, in my opinion, much worse for first, they are not doing their duty and second, they are MURDERERS! Please think rationally and do not get blinded by communal bias!
