Dont drag telugu or other ppl here (Of course they have JAI TELUNGANA issue right now). The issue is water sharing and TN n KTA are main parties. Why s..t drag others? If the KTA extreme elements give tamils the first preferance only they have to face it by their own.
Even shi..y achuthanandan is a regionalistic fox where as mallus throng all over india to live silent but wont allow 'others' even to start a petty shop in their own state.
This is the fact! Beware of all lingusitic elements and eveybody are on their own to take measures for themselves.
Tamils has more right over Cauvery because of the following historical facts.
1. Karnataka people doesn't know about agriculture, irrigation etc. We Tamils went there and taught all these technics to them.
2. 2000 years before iteself we built the Kallanni Dam in Cauvery near Trichy for paddy cultivation, at that time there were no paddy cultivation happened in Karnataka, Kannadigas came here to TN and learnt all these paddy cultivation technics from TN farmers.
3. If TN stops Neyveli Lignite power to Karnataka, then the Bangalore and half of the Karnataka will become dark in overnight. Neyveli lignite is 100% produce of Tamil Nadu unlike Cauvery water.
We the people gave the knowledge of agriculture and light to the IT of Karnataka.
So Karnataka is not doing any favour by releasing Cauvery water, its their duty to do so and its Tamil's Right.
If Mahe had lots and lots of water, does it mean that TN shouldn't share its water with Karaikal. NO, Why???? because Mahe's water cannot be transported to Karaikal. So Puducherry's needs might be certain amount which it might have, but it might not it have it everywhere. Similarly, North west TN does not have water and depends on Karnataka for water.
If TN were two seperate region, north west TN (lets call this TNA) and the rest of TN (lets call this TNB). Most of the rain that falls in that area of current TN, falls in TNB so TNA will be dependent on the state upstream to provide it water. THe state upstream would be Karnataka. TNB cannot provide TNA with water because it is downstream from TNA. Even if Chennai gets flooded with fresh water, it cannot provide North West TN with water. SO instead of thinking of it as giving another state water, Kannadigas should think of it as giving another region of India with water.
being in a responsible position the tribunal should have given a detail picture of water sharing based on harvest season and water availablity . how can karnataka afford to give 419tmcft given a draught year and at the same time can Tamilnadu afford to store this amount of water if it happens to be released in a rain floody season. Centre has to get to the bottom of the issue before giving such 'brain drain' decissions. There are and will be many more water rows between the states(soon to start for sure is between Telangana Andhra Godavari,krishna water share when they get seperated!!).
Karnataka does not adhere to the supreme court judgement, humiliate the Tamils' sentiments, blackout Tamil programs, work against the national integration. Doesn't this call for a disciplinary action against this state?
RE:Need for disciplinary action against erring and adament states
by raji koshy on Feb 06, 2007 01:48 PM Permalink
s kumar get into karnataka shoes then you will know
RE:RE:Need for disciplinary action against erring and adament states
by pratheep thangamuthu on Feb 06, 2007 02:02 PM Permalink
getting into others shoes will be uncomfortable.. if for irrigating 18 lakh hectrs of area karnataka it needs 450 TMc then plz tell me how much is reqd to irrigate 25 lakh hectres..
After Mattur dam came to use from 1934 , the average water released to TN was 378 tmc till 1990 the year before tribunal was set up. Karnataka constructed several dams during 1970s to 1980.The interim order passed to TN was 205 tmc taking into average water flow during 1970 to 80. The interim order also stayed Karnataka not to expand the irrigation land further from 11.2 lak acres. Now this has been increased to 18.85 lakh acres. Obviously it increases the need for water at the expense of poor Tamilnadu farmer. Whom to blame? Other interesting factor is normally TamilNadu needs water desperately during June to September period. After October raining period starts by that time all the reservoir in Karnatak reaches full level and surplus or flood water is released to TN If one can remember what happened last year. This brings better usage of available water at both sides. Unfortunately this tribunal verdict does not address much on how this water sharing mechanisms need to be implemented in both the states.
RE:Missing facts
by Rashmi Shivarudrappa on Feb 05, 2007 11:43 PM Permalink
What would have been your reaction, had it been a situation where Cauvery were to be born in TN and were to flow to Karnataka. Would you able to justify this verdict in that case?
RE:RE:Missing facts
by S Kumar on Feb 05, 2007 11:58 PM Permalink
re. the fisrt comment, it may be noted that river is never a mother or a father, it is a compound of oxygen and hydrogen. In summer, due to heat it may evaporate. Do you say that Karnataka's mother is evaporating :))) Re. your second comment, it may be noted that Tamils have always accepted realities and if Cauvery was born in Tamil nadu, they would have made an easy compromise and never have allowed think issue to take larger shape and move to the supreme court. Take the case where Tamil nadu is supplying power to Karnataka without thinking about the language. Think like human beings and never be fanatics.
RE:RE:RE:Missing facts
by sanjeev N on Feb 06, 2007 12:20 PM Permalink
My dear friend kumar if kannadigas come and dominate in chennai, and occupy high posts in software industries and if we recruit only kannada people then what would u do?
RE:RE:RE:RE:Missing facts
by pratheep thangamuthu on Feb 06, 2007 01:47 PM Permalink
the first thing everyone should have in their minds is both TN and Kar are part of INDIA. Will people in Mysore block water to Mandya people..?? then why to mettur and Other parts of TN...? Karnataka should understand that TN people are also part of India.. if they are not happy with the verict they can appeal against it or sit and talk with TN.. protesting and violence is no solution for the prob..
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Missing facts
by deepak jg on Feb 06, 2007 06:32 PM Permalink
You peoples are not indians, You X- Chief Minishter Kumariiiiiiiii Jayalalitha was said in past years we need separate country, so we will fight for it and we should, so you pls get lost.
RE:Missing facts
by Rashmi Shivarudrappa on Feb 05, 2007 11:42 PM Permalink
I dont see any logical reason in this. You must understand one thing here, Cauvery (Mother of Karnataka in its truest term) is born in Karnataka and flows to TN. There are downstream catchement areas in TN which when rains add the water to it. We are least bothered about it.
RE:RE:Missing facts
by indian on Feb 06, 2007 05:19 PM Permalink
better u hang, this is not the way u quote think a lot only bcoz of tamilians bangalore got boom in IT, can u count how many tamilians are in IT. Be as a Indian first not a kannadiga.
RE:RE:Missing facts
by srinivas kanna on Feb 06, 2007 06:19 AM Permalink
I think your comments are really very harsh and are against tamils.You are the one who called the tamilians as beggars. Aren't you ashmed of your language.If you are unhappy with the tribunal go and fight with them and not with the feelings of Tamilians.Check out Karnataka's stake on Godavari and Krishna. These rivers originate in Maharashtra and Maharashtra gets the least stake on those river water sharing.Karnataka and Andhra get the lion's share.Now you want cauvery water also. What do you eventually think?If cauvery were to be originated from Tamilnadu we would have been considerate and will not fight and pass unworhty comments on kannadigas. How long you think will it take for us to pass filthy comments on you people. This show that we are more cultured than you fanatics. Please be considerate as your post is seen by many and dont make a fool of yourself
RE:RE:RE:Missing facts
by deepak jg on Feb 06, 2007 06:26 PM Permalink
You blody fool what you think about your self Just giv me you number or call me for 98445-70674, i will tell you what we are ( Kannadigas )
RE:Needy thing.
by Chandramouly Vidyashankkar on Feb 05, 2007 11:17 PM Permalink
Nice joke and you are welcome to kick every one out of the state. Check it out, it is from Tamil nadu that electricity is shared to kerala and as well to karnataka. Is there any issue that has been arised out, no. The reason is its control is with the Centre. That should have been made inthis case as well, to avoid confusion and foolish fighting.
And mind you, it is all political game,done by karnataka gov, for the previous violence, and the same way, if anything is happening in tamilnadu, it will again be purely be political game, and the real poor people are the farmers and the useless people are us (since even after coming from an educated background, we are still finding ways to understand this)
RE:Needy thing.
by Rajamohan Ganesan on Feb 05, 2007 10:58 PM Permalink
Unfortunate that stupidous statements like this find place in this message board.
RE:RE:Needy thing.
by S Kumar on Feb 06, 2007 12:00 AM Permalink
If Tamils and Telegus are moved out of Karnataka, Karnataka would be left only with some primitive tribes :)))
RE:RE:RE:Needy thing.
by deepak jg on Feb 06, 2007 06:36 PM Permalink
you fool first you think that who is tribes you jungel babies, you we can't liv in your state (Tamil Nadu) its a worst state like a garbage state in india. first you cleanup your bodies put some fair & Lovely on your face and then come we will talk in Around table conference
RE:RE:Needy thing.
by S Kumar on Feb 06, 2007 12:04 AM Permalink
Why is Jai Ganesh not talking any thing about Marathi people. They Marathi people of Karnataka want Belgaum and other Marathi speaking areas to be attached to Maharashtra. Why are Kannadigas not waging a war with Marathis'?????
