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Why Media is giving one sided News ???
by santosh nayak on Dec 27, 2007 06:59 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


Why national Media is providing only one side of the whole episode and ignoring the other side ??

The Christian Goons ransacked two hanuman temples at at Jaleshpata and a temple of goddess Durga at Tumundibandh area.

But No National Media reported this. Only local Oriya newspapers are reporting news of both side??

Why National Media is so much biased ?????????


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RE:Why Media is giving one sided News ???
by dom dom on Dec 27, 2007 07:09 PM  Permalink
what do you mean by christian goons , Santosh have you cleared all your bills pending???

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RE:Why Media is giving one sided News ???
by true tamilan on Dec 27, 2007 07:02 PM  Permalink
Christianity, despite its middle-east origins, is the political ideology of white supremacists. Many great massacres of middle ages, and the wiping out of entire civilizations (eg: Aztec, Inca) is the proud work of these proselytizers and racists.

It continues even in 20th century.

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RE:Why Media is giving one sided News ???
by Siddhartha on Dec 27, 2007 07:10 PM  Permalink
Dear brother,
Today's media is ANTINATIONAL and backed and supported by ISI.
Do not forget that.

Hit back at journalists wherever you find them.

They are causing more harm to the society than the islamic militants.


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OCCULTISM AND SONIA GANDHI
by Vijay Swaminathan on Dec 27, 2007 06:48 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The consequences of Sonia Gandhi becoming the "Eminence Grise", as the French say, of India, that is the one who controls everything from behind the scenes, are not only visible for all those who care to look, but also occult, subtle, invisible, yet having far reaching and maybe irreversible consequences. Occultism, in the ancient sense, was the manipulation of forces which cannot be seen, but which constantly clash in the world. In fact one could say that politics is the art of controlling these forces, overtly and covertly. At the top, great leaders create their own occultism: their very presence generates certain atmospheres which make or unmake revolutions.

At the outset, one should first say that the world is not Black & White, Good and Evil, Superman versus the bad guys, as the Americans would like us to believe. Hindu groups need not demonize Sonia. She probably was a good wife to Rajiv, a good daughter in law to Indira - and by all accounts, she is a good mother to her children, judging by the way they dote on her. One also hears first-hand reports about her concern for smaller people, her dignity in the suffering that befell her when her husband was blown to pieces, and her courtesy with visitors.

This said, what is happening in India at the moment, makes me profoundly uneasy. I am a Westerner and a born Christian. Yet I find it absurd that in a country of one billion people, one of the most ancient civilizations of this world, Indians cannot find an Indian to

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RE:OCCULTISM AND SONIA GANDHI
by Vijay Swaminathan on Dec 27, 2007 06:54 PM  Permalink
The occult effect of it is that nobody realizes that in a country of 850 million Hindus, you have now a Sikh Prime Minister - when Sikhs constitute only 2% of the country's population; a Muslim President - when Muslims are only 10% in India; a communist leader of Parliament %u2013 when communism is moribund the world over; and a Western and Christian supreme leader, when Westerners constitute only 0,0001% of India and Christians 3%. Where are the poor Hindus ?

What will happen if India becomes enough westernized at the social level, Christianized and Islamized at the religious level and taken over by the Marxists at the intellectual level ? Not only will India lose its unique soul and just become another western clone in the developing world, but the earth will lose something very precious: an ancient knowledge, a irreplaceable way of being, which makes even the most ordinary farmer or coolie carry something unique in his or her genes: a tolerance, an acceptance that God can take many forms, an innate philosophical mind, an understanding that there is something beyond us, beyond death. Even Indian Christians are different from any Christians in the world, Indian Muslims different from any Muslims in the world. They would also lose.


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RE:OCCULTISM AND SONIA GANDHI
by Vijay Swaminathan on Dec 27, 2007 06:51 PM  Permalink
Pervez is a clever magician: nobody in India has found anything to say that he is actually holding talks with the Hurryat leaders, who want Kashmir to separate from India %u2013 and most likely go to Pakistan ! There is in India an obsession and a fear of Pakistan, a small country who has lost the four wars it initiated with India.

Let's come to the covert, occult signs. I am a little uneasy when I see how much Christianity is taking over India under the reign of Sonia Gandhi : according to a 2001 census, there are about 2.34 million Christians in India ; not even 2,5% of the nation, a negligible amount. Yet there are today five Christian chief ministers in Nagaland, Mizoram, Meghalaya, Kerala and Andhra Pradesh. One should add that the majority of politicians in Sonia Gandhi's closed circle are either Christians or Muslims. She seems to have no confidence in Hindus. Ambika Soni, a Christian, is General Secretary of the Congress and a very powerful person, with close access to Sonia Gandhi. Oscar Fernandes is Union Programme Implementation Minister. Margaret Alwa is the eminence grise of Maharasthra. Karnataka is virtually controlled by AK Anthony, whose secretaries are all from the Southern Christian association. Valson Thampu, a Hindu hater, is Chairman NCERT curriculum Review Committee, John Dayal, another known Hindu baiter, has been named by Sonia Gandhi in the National Integration Council ; and Kancha Ilaya, who hates Hindus, is being allowed by the Indian Govt.

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RE:OCCULTISM AND SONIA GANDHI
by Vijay Swaminathan on Dec 27, 2007 06:49 PM  Permalink
Yet I find it absurd that in a country of one billion people, one of the most ancient civilizations of this world, Indians cannot find an Indian to govern themselves. There are many good and talented people within the Congress and one wonders what is this unconscious, occult urge, which makes them look-up to someone, who however good-willing, is alien - if not hostile - to their own culture.

Let's first look at the visible, overt consequences of Sonia Gandhi's supreme leadership. There is of course the Iraqi oil-for-food scam. I know Anil Maitrani well: he is a somehow likeable, highly ambitious man, who got caught in his own web of intrigues. Yet, it is an open secret that the go ahead for the Iraqi trip of Natwar Singh, his son and his acolyte came directly from Sonia through her trusted aides. There is also a strong speculation that Sonia Gandhi controls today so much money through the various Gandhi trusts, on top of slush funds nobody knows about, that there lies her ultimate power. And what about Kashmir? Experts says that Islamic militants do not need anymore to risk crossing from Pakistan over dangerous mountain ranges and being shot at by Indian soldiers, they only have to board the Muzaffarabad-Srinagar bus, or cross the LOC under false identities and papers with the connivance of the Pakistani Rangers ! Mr Musharraf has dazzled the West, who laid everywhere a red carpet for him. Is the man who conceived Kargil sincere ?

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RE:OCCULTISM AND SONIA GANDHI
by Vijay Swaminathan on Dec 27, 2007 06:53 PM  Permalink
Then there is this rapid Westernization of India. There are good things in the West: its material consciousness, care for Nature, logical Mind, but it is nevertheless in crisis, its Church is in disarray, three marriages out of five end in divorce and even some children need to go to psychiatrists before they start shooting other children. Yet, if you have a look at most of the mainstream English-speaking Indian magazines and newspapers today, you will notice that all their cover stories deal with western concepts, that they are looking at India from a Western point of view, such as talking about 'New Age' spirituality, as if spirituality is new to India, that there is never any reference to India's great past, or to India's philosophy, or medicine (which is by the way becoming fashionable in the West). Notice also that when the Pope of Hinduism, the Shankaracharya of Kanchi, is arrested - and it could not have been done without Sonia's knowledge - the entire Indian intelligentsia claps, though he still has not be proved guilty more than one year later. And that when a new Pope is elected in Rome, we gets in India hours of live coverage and countless cover stories.

Islamization, Westernization, Christianization, anti-Hinduism and Marxisation are the five forces which Sonia has marshaled to subdue India.

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RE:OCCULTISM AND SONIA GANDHI
by m on Dec 27, 2007 07:29 PM  Permalink
Hinduism is the root of all EVIL in India.

Hinduism is the only religion in the world that covertly still preaches and promotes Racism aka Casteism.

Hindu parents covertly brainwash their children to coerce or manipulate other kids as per caste hierarchies.


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RE:OCCULTISM AND SONIA GANDHI
by Vijay Swaminathan on Dec 27, 2007 06:56 PM  Permalink
Maybe it is thus necessary for Indians to see for themselves the harmful effects of Sonia's queenship : the oil for food scam, the mistrust of Hindus, the bomb blasts, the deteriorating situation in Kashmir, the proliferation of madrasas, the frenzied globalization, the Christian conversion drive... Then only will they realize that is important to have an Indian at the top, someone who is in touch with India's ideals and spirituality and not someone who is sold the West and these alien western concepts which are Marxism and Christianity.

Please note: This artcile was written by Francois Gautier - A renouned writer and a lover of Indian tradition

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RE:OCCULTISM AND SONIA GANDHI
by Vijay Swaminathan on Dec 27, 2007 06:52 PM  Permalink
to lobby with the UN and US Congress so that caste discrimination in India is taken-up by these bodies.

share with Sonia a love for India, like her I have lived in this country for over 30 years and like her I have married an Indian. But nevertheless, since she is at the top, Christian conversions in India seem to have gone in overdrive. More than 4,000 foreign Christian missionaries are involved in conversion activities across different states. In Tripura, there were no Christians at independence, there are 120.000 today, a 90% increase since 1991. The figures are even more striking in Arunachal Pradesh, where there were only 1710 Christians in 1961, but 1,2 million today, as well as 780 churches! In Andhra Pradesh, churches are coming-up every day in far flung villages and there was even an attempt to set-up one near Tirupati. Many of the North-East separatist movements, such as the Mizo or the Bodos, are not only Christian dominated, but also sometimes function with the covert backing of the missionaries. In Kerala, particularly in the poor coastal districts, you find "miracle boxes" put in local churches: the gullible villager writes out a paper mentioning his wish: a fishing boat, a loan for a pukka house, fees for the son's schooling%u2026 And lo, a few weeks later, the miracle happens ! And of course the whole family converts, making others in the village follow suit. During the Tsunami, entire dalit villages in TN were converted to Christianity with the lure of money

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Why my message not published!!!
by bhabani satapathy on Dec 27, 2007 06:45 PM  Permalink 

Is it because I am telling the truth...? Shame on rediff

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Times have changed
by Dheeraj Akula on Dec 27, 2007 06:40 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


These days people ditch their own parents for money and "love(???)".

The number of old age homes is growing.

It is not at all surprising that people are ready to change their religion.

How can you stop a son/daughter who is ready to ditch his father and mother? Can we stop? I don't think we can.

Similarly, I don't think we can stop people from converting.

I don't buy the argument that casteism is Hinduism is the reason for conversion. It is primarily money.



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RE:Times have changed
by Dheeraj Akula on Dec 27, 2007 06:53 PM  Permalink

People change girl friends and boy friends.

People change husbands and wifes.

People change families. A son/daughter ditches his family for the sake of his wife/daughter.

Brothers and sisters ditch each other. A brother is ready to cheat his own brother.

Our politicans change political parties, not for "ideological" reasons, but for money.

So, it is not at all surprising that people change their religions.


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RE:Times have changed
by ashish on Dec 27, 2007 06:55 PM  Permalink
dheeraj looks like u getin wired cause its christmas and u roaming aroiund in ur lungi singing bhajans and people throwin stones at u so u venting ur steam here lol which goonda group u belong to
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RE:Times have changed
by Vijay Swaminathan on Dec 27, 2007 07:01 PM  Permalink
I agree. I know for sure hes not singing carols going house to house with a guitar. The point is, people find it difficult to keep their religion like a private life. You want to step out, you want to preach on the streets and you want people to convert - you will go to any lengths to do it, even buy out people. But people like Dheeraj hold their own. They stand with their head held high. We all know how Pagen worship died in this world so dont try to teach History

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RE:RE:Times have changed
by ashish on Dec 27, 2007 07:06 PM  Permalink
and swami ji did i ask u or any one else to convert?

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RE:Times have changed
by ashish on Dec 27, 2007 07:04 PM  Permalink
dude carol singing is not history ,if we happy with our singing keep ur jealousy to ur self ---

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RE:Times have changed
by ashish on Dec 27, 2007 07:08 PM  Permalink
i replied ,read above and for ur info ,i have a lotta hindu friends but they not fanatics they come to church i go to the temples ,they dont abuse christianity and they celebrate christmas as much as I do

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RE:Times have changed
by Dheeraj Akula on Dec 27, 2007 07:07 PM  Permalink

You didn't answer my question.

I am keen to know what light you saw in Christianity, that you could not see in Hinduism.


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RE:Times have changed
by Dheeraj Akula on Dec 27, 2007 07:04 PM  Permalink

Thank you, Vijay!



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RE:Times have changed
by ashish on Dec 27, 2007 06:51 PM  Permalink
hey dheeraj im a christian no one paid me any money to convert ,get ur facts right before u speak garbage we converted cause we saw the light in christianity

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RE:RE:Times have changed
by Dheeraj Akula on Dec 27, 2007 06:56 PM  Permalink

I accept my statement need not be true for every Christian. You may be an exception.

Everyone does not convert to Christianity for the same reasons you do.

By the way, what light did you see in Christianity, which you did not find in Hinduism?


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RE:RE:RE:Times have changed
by ashish on Dec 27, 2007 07:05 PM  Permalink
dheeraj i was born christian ,i have to ask my ancestors wat they saw ,as for me im very proud and hapy being christian ,hope u had a grt christmas

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RE:RE:RE:RE:Times have changed
by Dheeraj Akula on Dec 27, 2007 07:13 PM  Permalink

Then, your response to my message was not appropriate.

Because you don't know why exactly your ancestors converted.


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RE:Times have changed
by ashish on Dec 27, 2007 07:16 PM  Permalink
who cares why they converted ,im happy they did

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RE:Times have changed
by bhimsen on Dec 27, 2007 06:52 PM  Permalink
Well said. Caste is aka race except. But our sick media and pseudosecular UPA would want us to believe in the white man's discrimination based on race but pound hindu based division of race i.e. caste.

I still say to all those convent educated, ELM, arty farty that casteism is equally bad as racism whereas Caste and Race are not. Understand that nobody can chose his parent, country, religion or caste. This is something wer are born with.

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RE:Times have changed
by Confused Mind on Dec 27, 2007 07:05 PM  Permalink
There is nothing called low-caste and high-caste. It is a distortion of the original concept. The idea is in order to run a society or even a individual properly one needs to imbibe 4 basic qualities of - Thinker (Bramhin), Protector (Kshatriya), Economist (Vaishya), Worker (Shudra). All of them are equal and do not exist in isolation. Even in life one has to imbibe all the 4 qualitites to be successful. This concept will always be true everywhere in whatever profession people pursue. It has been distorted and abused by confused people over time. Most Hindus are not aware of the same. There is nothing wrong with old-age homes. People in the West are quite comfortable with that. For that matter, Hinduism, has 4 stages of life, bramhcharya, grihastha, vanaprastha, sanyas. During the 4th stage one leaves home. What's wrong if Old-age homes are kept well?

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RE:RE:Times have changed
by Dheeraj Akula on Dec 27, 2007 07:09 PM  Permalink

Come on!

If old age home was meant for the "vanaprastha" stage of life, then there is nothing wrong in it.

But, I think many (not all) end up in old age homes because they are neglected by their sons and daughters. That is definitely bad.


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RE:Times have changed
by ashish on Dec 27, 2007 07:12 PM  Permalink
i think u smokin pot like ur illiterate sadhus dheeraj,where did u kearn ur english from ,christian schools right

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RE:Times have changed
by Dheeraj Akula on Dec 27, 2007 07:16 PM  Permalink

Your response is totally irrelevant to my message. I wonder where you learnt your English, same Christian schools?



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RE:RE:Times have changed
by ashish on Dec 27, 2007 07:17 PM  Permalink
U talkin bout my grammar then bring urs on ,if u talkin to replyin to ur msgs i dont deem tat necessary cause its no point talkin to goons who believe in burning and rioting

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RE:Times have changed
by m on Dec 27, 2007 06:48 PM  Permalink
Hinduism is the only religion in the world that covertly still preaches and promotes Racism aka Casteism.

Hindu parents covertly brainwash their children to coerce or manipulate other kids as per caste hierarchies.


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RE:Times have changed
by Confused Mind on Dec 27, 2007 07:10 PM  Permalink
There is nothing called low-caste and high-caste. It is a distortion of the original concept. The idea is in order to run a society or even a individual properly one needs to imbibe 4 basic qualities of - Thinker (Bramhin), Protector (Kshatriya), Economist (Vaishya), Worker (Shudra). All of them are equal and do not exist in isolation. Even in life one has to imbibe all the 4 qualitites to be successful. This concept will always be true everywhere in whatever profession people pursue. It has been distorted and abused by confused people over time. Most Hindus are not aware of the same. There is nothing wrong with old-age homes. People in the West are quite comfortable with that. For that matter, Hinduism, has 4 stages of life, bramhcharya, grihastha, vanaprastha, sanyas. During the 4th stage one leaves home. What's wrong if Old-age homes are kept well?

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RE:Times have changed
by arvind rb on Dec 27, 2007 06:56 PM  Permalink
yes maybe less than christians and Muslims
Chiritians have throughout history just spread christianity through deceipt and sword .
millions of jews .. Black slaves . and an example .
and in musilms shia are detested by sunnis and killed even in pakistan which was created as a safe heaven ffor muslims .
Ahmedias ..were declared non muslims .
Atlease in cateism we dont teach Rape and slaughter .
This caste thing is dying in cities and soon will die in Rular areas also .
We have mayawali dalit CM voted into power even by bhramins . Narayanan as president .
and many more to come .... has a black become president of US.
Will a shia rule pakistan ...

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RE:Times have changed
by m on Dec 27, 2007 07:30 PM  Permalink
Hinduism continues to be denounced in India till 85% of marriages are inter-caste.


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Anti-hindu TOI - karnataka edition
by gautam gautam on Dec 27, 2007 06:38 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Today Times of India, as is usually the case with them, said the anti-conversion leader was attacked but they did not specify it was by the christians. Their report was more focused on church being burnt on the day of christmas...The media being anti-hindu will conveniently forget or gloss over the fact that a hindu was attacked first and what followed was the payback for that attack. They did not even mention anything about the state of swamiji. People running TOI will be most happiest when our nation becomes a christian nation as they are UK based, if I remember properly.

Friends, never trust the stinky droppings of these anti-hindu media. Always see behind their facade. TOI which was anti-modi, are still not accepting the decision of people in case of gujarat, and are still running articles questioning BJP win [Jug suriaya -second opinion]. What kind of name is Jug? Why not glass suriaya or burthan suriaya?

No hindu should trust the present media. Read it to know about their veiled hatred for hindus and their strategies against hinduism, but reach your own conclusions.

There is letter to editor but any letter supporting hindus will not be printed.

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RE:Anti-hindu TOI - karnataka edition
by Rukmesh Singh on Dec 27, 2007 06:42 PM  Permalink
Mr. Gautam,
You are a fascist and nothing else. You fascists do not like criticism.

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RE:Anti-hindu TOI - karnataka edition
by bhimsen on Dec 27, 2007 07:08 PM  Permalink
@Rukmesh

you are just another convent educated type who has been totally brainwashed. Read the history and the bible to find out who is the true fascist - the Xtian god who murdered Egyptians and Jews or the islam god who is still murdering the rest of the civilization

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RE:Anti-hindu TOI - karnataka edition
by Srikanth Anumula on Dec 27, 2007 06:45 PM  Permalink
Well said Gautam!

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Handiwork of Congress workers deceiting Hinduism !!
by anil arora on Dec 27, 2007 06:35 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

this is the handy work of congress to avenge the defeat in Gujrat.

People should be educated and enlightened about the above incidents after thorough and proper investigations.

Hindus can't react this way to Christians, and that is for sure.

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RE:Handiwork of Congress workers deceiting Hinduism !!
by m on Dec 27, 2007 06:48 PM  Permalink
Hinduism is the root of all EVIL in India.

Hinduism is the only religion in the world that covertly still preaches and promotes Racism aka Casteism.

Hindu parents covertly brainwash their children to coerce or manipulate other kids as per caste hierarchies.


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RE:Handiwork of Congress workers deceiting Hinduism !!
by true tamilan on Dec 27, 2007 06:59 PM  Permalink
In gita, god says he has divided people into 4 varnas based on gunas.

Gunas are

1, Satvika - People who are not bothered about materialistic life leading a ascetic life. They were called brahmins. Brahmin is one who knows Brahman or god.

2, Rajasic - People who want power. They want land and wealth. Kshatriyas and vaishyas belonged to that.

3, Tamasic - People who are sloth, lazy, enjoying with women and drink all the time. Shudras belonged to that.

Bhagavt gita cleary says this. There were lot of hindu saints who has explained better than me what casteism in Hinduim is. It is never by birth.

How can u blame the religion for people's folliness.

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RE:Handiwork of Congress workers deceiting Hinduism !!
by Farooq on Dec 27, 2007 07:23 PM  Permalink
ok tamilian what you said is good..but tamilian dont you think this is something personal between God and man about the guna's ? it will obvious not good to lable a community by birth as dalits or brahmans..what r ur thoughts?...if what you are telling is truth then why not somebody from ur community stand and say hey man you cant call anyone brahman and anyone should be able to become pundit and take higher education like shankara charya and above

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RE:Handiwork of Congress workers deceiting Hinduism !!
by true tamilan on Dec 27, 2007 07:51 PM  Permalink
Adhi shankaracharya, Swami Vivekananda, Sree Narayana Guru, Annamacharya,... all the hindu saints have said the same thing. Fedual kings want an order in the society, so they never took any action against people who did not follow it correctly. Why wud english bother about it? They cud have banned it when india got independence, but the politicians are increasing for vote bank.

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This is a big conspiracy: make an immediet probe by CID
by Ravi Roy on Dec 27, 2007 06:26 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I doubt that this is handiwork of any hindu organization...in fact this all has been done under some conspiracy specially seing the time of chirstmas and new year so that such news get maximum milage and hindus typecasted as getting buture and hindutva defamed.
naveen patnaik must must get all these incidence investigated and put the truth before the eyes of world. Congres can fall to any extent to survive..it's certainly a foul play. Probe this incidence.


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RE:This is a big conspiracy: make an immediet probe by CID
by Prakash Nair on Dec 27, 2007 06:41 PM  Permalink
Ravi, do you know the church guys ? They are the worst fellows in the world.. They are bigger terrorists than the jihadis...
I feel it is the priests or goondas of the church who do this stuff in their own churches. After that they want to blame Hindu organizations...!!!!!
ManMoronSingh will jump immediately now...!!!!! Else madam will throw him out..

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RE:Don't mix with them
by dom dom on Dec 27, 2007 06:29 PM  Permalink
are you sure , please think back on your self

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simple formula
by Farooq on Dec 27, 2007 06:22 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

There is nothing hindus shall do to stop conversions...make all the dalits and scheduled caste all small caste people brahmans conversion will automatically stop..these all is happening just becoz dalits have no rights in hinduism

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RE:simple formula
by anil arora on Dec 27, 2007 06:37 PM  Permalink
dalits in hinduism get more benefits than in any other religion. India had a dalit president for your shut knowledge.
Constitutional father of India, Mr. B.R.Ambedekar was a dalit.

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RE:simple formula
by Farooq on Dec 27, 2007 06:44 PM  Permalink
then why Mr.Ambedekar became buddhist?

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RE:simple formula
by Raja on Dec 27, 2007 06:30 PM  Permalink
My seeing ur name ithink ur a muslim.
Ok, U go to Saudi Arabia and tell
"Me and Saud" is same.

For this punishment is 400 lashes.
(Saud is dominant caste in saudi arabia, Its king is also from the same caste)


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RE:simple formula
by Farooq on Dec 27, 2007 06:37 PM  Permalink
hahaha Raja nice joke....you know raja what islam says ..islam says that no arab is greater then non arab and no race is greater then other whites are not better then blacks or blacks better then whites ..god has made some black some white and ppl in different races not to make one greater from the other but just to know that this man belongs to this country just for identification..islams says about universal brotherhood...and by the way there is no caste system in saudi arabia saud's are no better then other in islam only a person can become superior by attaining taqwa ..taqwa means following the fundamentals of almighty god...and prophet mohammed said the best among you is he who is best in manners who is best to thier parents in islam its not allowed to talk in laudly infront of your parents when they became old

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RE:simple formula
by P. K. Mare on Dec 27, 2007 06:25 PM  Permalink
please call all dalit in brahmin.

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RE:simple formula
by Mahesh G on Dec 27, 2007 06:24 PM  Permalink
hEY FAROOK,
i CAN EXPLAIN U IN ONE WAY,

If ur father is bad or Drunken u need to accept him as ur father instead of that some one will come and convince you that if ur father is bad call my father as father whether u accept it . Religion is equal to father

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RE:simple formula
by Farooq on Dec 27, 2007 06:27 PM  Permalink
This is not about father its about someone greater then father The God...a person can still be indian and carry on his culture without being a hindu

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RE:RE:simple formula
by Raja on Dec 27, 2007 06:34 PM  Permalink
yes, Bu in this case christian mob attacked
a Hindu Spiritual Leader, that Provoked violence.

U will reap what u plant. If u plant violance, u r sure to reap it

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RE:simple formula
by m on Dec 27, 2007 06:50 PM  Permalink
Hinduism will be continued to be denounced in India till 85% of marriages are inter-caste.


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RE:simple formula
by true tamilan on Dec 27, 2007 07:04 PM  Permalink
Farooq,
Even if u follow an arab master, you can take some time to study your ancestor's religion. Caste is not determined by birth, but by character.

In gita, god says he has divided people into 4 varnas based on gunas.

Gunas are

1, Satvika - People who are not bothered about materialistic life leading a ascetic life. They were called brahmins. Brahmin is one who knows Brahman or god.

2, Rajasic - People who want power. They want land and wealth. Kshatriyas and vaishyas belonged to that.

3, Tamasic - People who are sloth, lazy, enjoying with women and drink all the time. Shudras belonged to that.

Bhagavt gita cleary says this. There were lot of hindu saints who has explained better than me what casteism in Hinduim is. It is never by birth.


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RE:simple formula
by Farooq on Dec 27, 2007 07:18 PM  Permalink
ok tamilian what you said is good..but tamilian dont you think this is something personal between God and man about the guna's ? it will obvious not good to lable a community by birth as dalits or brahmans..what r ur thoughts?

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