ok tamilian what you said is good..but tamilian dont you think this is something personal between God and man about the guna's ? it will obvious not good to lable a community by birth as dalits or brahmans..what r ur thoughts?...if what you are telling is truth then why not somebody from ur community stand and say hey man you cant call anyone brahman and anyone should be able to become pundit and take higher education like shankara charya and above