India require a person like modi.He is the new face of strong india.A man who is tough on policies and with his administative skill can take India to new heights.He should be the PM and should be supported by all peoples, be it hindus,muslims,christians etc. I feel that we have a lot of leaders, but Modi has that extra energy and dedication to represent a corrupt free India.He doesnot favour anyone unless he feels its good for the nation.Its not too far that he will lead us to a new era.MODI INDIA IS WITH YOU!!!
Why should anybody visit a Mosque or Dargah????????
by Avinash on Dec 24, 2007 11:54 AM Permalink | Hide replies
Pointing to a dargah near the BJP office, Afzal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kadiwala says, "Modi has never visited the dargah. It is a stone's throw away from the BJP office but he has never bothered to come..........why the followers of any other religion visit a place of worhsip of muslims when they have no qualms about shouting through loud speakers five times a day "there is no god but Allah" and redicule the gods of all other religions?????????????????? Does Allah have monopoly over the heaven or hell??????? I don't visit even places of whorships of hindus as there is no convlusive evidence of existence of any god!!!!!
RE:Why should anybody visit a Mosque or Dargah????????
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 11:58 AM Permalink
Afzal Kadiwala is not a leader like Modi. whether he visited temples or not than doesnt make any difference. But Modi can make difference.
RE:Why should anybody visit a Mosque or Dargah????????
by Avinash on Dec 24, 2007 12:02 PM Permalink
Mr. Modi is not a muslim to go to the Mosque or Dargah. He is a hindu and does not believe in Allah or grave-worship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:Why should anybody visit a Mosque or Dargah????????
by D C Shaikh on Dec 24, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
political leader can not be a representive of any religion....!!!!
because he elected by peoples, hindu, muslim and cristian also. so how can he called as Hindu or Muslim...?
RE:Why should anybody visit a Mosque or Dargah????????
by Avinash on Dec 24, 2007 12:17 PM Permalink
Mr.Shaikh, how many muslims have voted for Mr. Modi? Yes, I agree with you that a CM (not mere politician) represents the entire population of a state. So the best thing for him to do is to avoid going to any place of worship (including that of his own).
RE:Why should anybody visit a Mosque or Dargah????????
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 12:00 PM Permalink
These is what we called Communalism.Why u need to Question anyone Faith? How Abusing Others Benefits you.? Why do you question that? I did not question your belief... I am not imposing my belief on you...
RE:RE:Why should anybody visit a Mosque or Dargah????????
by Avinash on Dec 24, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>These is what we called Communalism..............yes, what the muslims preach is hatread based on religion! I don't believe in the dogmas of any religion nor do I go to temple/mosque/church. If you want believe in any god (including Allah) confine that to your residence and places of worships only! Don't try to impose the same on us.
So Many Hindus visit Churches & Dargahs.same cannot be said about Other Communities.That Show how Open Minded we r. But We cannot Force our Ideology on others & say why they dont do it. It is a Matter of Choice.. We have No rights to question any faith. Live & Let Live.. & Do not fall trap in Politics.
RE:Hindus Are Best!!
by Avinash on Dec 24, 2007 11:56 AM Permalink
The Muslims believe that "there is no god but Allah" and the Christians believe that those who believe in any other gods (other than their holy trinity) are fit for permanent residence of hell. The gods of semitic religions are jealous unlike the gods of the "pagans" !!!
RE:Hindus Are Best!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 12:03 PM Permalink
Your comments are not matured enough my friend. maybe you dont want to see the truth but just try not to make any slander to muslims and Allah.because he is not just muslim`s God. He is the God of every creature in the earth and universes. And afterlife you will learn this fact sorrowfully but it will be too late for you to regret.
RE:RE:Hindus Are Best!!
by Avinash on Dec 24, 2007 12:13 PM Permalink
Mr.Ismail Sayyed, I have seen the same messages from you a number of times. If you want to believe in any God (including Allah) confine that to your residences or places of worships only. Don't bring that on to the street nor try to impose your ideology on others.
RE:RE:Hindus Are Best!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 12:05 PM Permalink
Allah in Arabic means God.Like in Urdu,we refer Allah as Khuda also.In Punjabi we refer as Rab.
I am certain it is very uncomforatble being a muslim in gujarat(or for that matter anywhere in India), no body likes a government that has a stated policy against them. I feel the big responsibility for creating these polarising forces goes to the so called muslim leadership in India, they have always chosen to force secular parties to support religious fundamentalism and weaken our constitution rather than embrace democracy and the rule of law. I have never seen them support the Indian constitution and are lways happy passing fatwas and firing up passions, only to seek the constitution's protection in the face of retribution. The one and only way forward for our country is inclusiveness and that can happen when we forget religion caste, creed etc. and focus on building better institutions to protect our rights- Yes, an old idea but the only one that works!
RE:Support Inclusiveness
by raju on Dec 24, 2007 12:02 PM Permalink
you have hit the nail on the head sir., Hope many muslims read this message & only hope they say that country comes first & then comes religion.. unless they say this first, every thing they want & do will be eyed with suspicion, In fact I would go a step further & say the Immams & Mullahs (In our beloved India) takes the first intiative, because history shows that fortunatly or unfortunatly the community blindly follows them!!!!!
RE:RE:Support Inclusiveness
by Rahul Balagopal on Dec 24, 2007 12:18 PM Permalink
It's a visious cycle, the leadership need their followers to be ignorant and poor so that they can be manipulated, the current situation of poverty and fear suits them well..... more Javed Akthars And Shabana Azmis needed!
RE:HISTORY OF JIHAD (ISLAMIC CRIMANLITY)
by jawed khan on Dec 24, 2007 11:55 AM Permalink
what about jihad by USA IN iraq , afgnastian. what about jizad in gujrat by modi. what about jihad in sikhs marraker in 1984 what about jihad in bhagalpur riots what about jihad in bosnia by serbs what about jihad in checheen by russia BE MORE INFORMERD BEFORE TALKING LIKE A IGNORANT DUMMY
RE:RE:HISTORY OF JIHAD (ISLAMIC CRIMANLITY)
by Hari Shankar on Dec 24, 2007 12:23 PM Permalink
USA, Gujrat, Bhagalpur, bosnia, chechenya are all answers for jihad by mad man mohammad's rapists.
Useless article. Have you ever seen Modi visiting any temple? So why should he visit a Dargah? Further, a state develops economically, how will it differentiate in trickling down the benefits based on religion? And if the applications of muslims for the jobs are not considered, why would you hold Modi responsible for that?
Muslims have to understand that they have to change their line of thinking. They have to ensure that their members become well educated, enterpreneurial (they have been excellent in arts for centuries) and also move on with times. If a chief minister does not visit a dargah, please do not take that as a communal attitude. He is a Hindu and he follows his faith and so he wants to visit temples that is all.Mr. Modi does not use very tactful words to get your votes. He speaks plainly and very clearly. If you see "Sachar committee" report (that every muslim wants to be implemented), it clearly states that the average muslim in Gujarat is better off than UP, Maharashtra and even Tamilnadu. The media wants you to remember Godhra 2002, because it knows it hurts your community. Look at people sleeping on various riot cases, whether it is Mumbai, delhi etc...So Godhra was an unfortunate incident. I would like the Muslim community to take the lead and work with Modi to ensure Gujarat remains the most respected state in India. I am quite sure, if you take the initiative and put forward to him, he will make it happen. My request is, don't ask favours because you follow a particular religion. Put a blueprint on the needs of education, eradication of poverty, creation of jobs for the districts of Gujarat, My sincere belief is that he will get that done for you.
RE:Please see Gujarat under right perspective
by Dhan Kotnala on Dec 24, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
I do agree that they should stop feeling isolated and concentrate on education and become good sons and daughters of Bharat Mata
RE:Please see Gujarat under right perspective
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 12:07 PM Permalink
I agree with u but not fully.. Even Togadia is a Doctor by Profession but he spews venom whenever he is speaking.. that says it all..
RE:Please see Gujarat under right perspective
by Avinash on Dec 24, 2007 12:19 PM Permalink
Even Dr. Zakir Naik is a doctor. What is he doing? When you point one finger at others, three fingers points towards you. Remember that!
RE:Please see Gujarat under right perspective
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 11:48 AM Permalink
The world is fast moving towards becoming tiny from small and you are still entrenched in the Hindu & Muslim debate
RE:Please see Gujarat under right perspective
by Fantastic on Dec 24, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
>> Ismail Sayyed Dear Ismail...In one message you were chanting Osama bin Laden activities.They you were preaching and justifying his acts. What a game plan. I think u r forgot your messages which u had pasted.
The article shows a negative approach of the few Muslims the author may have met and spoken to.
By quoting extensively about their thoughts and generalizing, the author tries to paint a negative picture of what to expect from Modi in future.
I would not like a politician to visit any such religious places and create a false sense of support or otherwise for or against any group. A political leader should ideally appear neutral and be fair to all - which is a tall order to expect of any normal politicians - neither Sonia, nor Modi are of that order. But, Modi atleast is open about what he practices. Sonia and her men have always abused the trust of people - look at their silence in case of Tytler now. They do not mind speaking of justice on one hand, and instigating people to committ riots on the other.
Muslims would do well to be posive, pragmatic and take an approach of cooperation rather than fall prey to the thoughts of greedy instigators. BJP is not anti-minority. It is patently against unfair appeasement or of painting all minority as supporters of terrorism. Speaking against terrorism is not speaking against minorities. Only those minorities who feel that way, know the reasons for their guilt. If they stand against terrorism, it is easy for them to stop events like Godhra, and so, the aftermath of it.
Let people stop this blame Modi for all evils facing Gujarat or the minorities. Its time for introspection by minorities too to change their attitude.
RE:Muslims, its time to get out of the ghetto mindset...
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 24, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
Why u always talk & Think like a Politician. Why u ppl cannot think anything beyond politcs . Think Like a Human..& Behave also.. BTW Are u not appeasing Muslim as u allege others.
