>>>>Now the freedom movement is stronger than >>>>ever even if it may not seem so.this is >>>>because a common man is haressed and is fed >>>>up with both the occupied forces
RE:>>babar
by babar on Dec 20, 2007 02:51 PM Permalink
yeh it may seem so to you,,it is not your fault..when so much distorted is shown to you evertime..you think everything is like that
The author titles his piece "Chinkara gazelle or Kashmiri Hindu"- almost to say that if it was a human being of any other religion ( or state ?) it would not be as much of an issue. Any human life should have value, and if the author has concern for human life it should not be tainted by religion or region. The authors personal biases show in the choice of the headline.
RE:So why go so far ?
by Rajesh pandit on Dec 21, 2007 10:26 PM Permalink
Can u tell me where he is wrong while equating the two? Don't you feel he is all justified raising this issue. People like you always want to brush these issues under the carpet. Please answer the question the way it has been put don't use secular umbrella to divert attention.
The facts about kashmir are different.your politicians are making a lot of money and given you the distorted picture of kashmir.An honest kashmiri pandit will tell you as to why they left kashmir..futher there was a chance for indian gov to improve the situation in kashmir a few years back by adressing the concerns of people and by resetting pandits back .but they failed instead there are gross human rights violations which has made the people think again about india and made their resolve stronger they see both india and pakistan as occupied forces ..Now the freedom movement is stronger than ever even if it may not seem so.this is because a common man is haressed and is fed up with both the occupied forces
RE:RE:Harsh Facts
by babar on Dec 20, 2007 02:18 PM Permalink
First thing that i am not a pakistani nor do i consider myself indian..i am kashmiri ..you have grudges against pakistan ,you go and settle it yourself..today hardly some people like them in other part of kashmir .Nor do we want them to middle in kashmir .At the same time we neither want india there..Both of you are the occupied forces and your bitter rivalry is effecting us..pls settle it between yourselves..live and let live
RE:Harsh Facts
by babar on Dec 20, 2007 02:42 PM Permalink
So why was he Geelani acquitted then.because there wasnt anything against him.Read Anuradathi roy's articles about kashmir ..she clearly mentions which may be harsh for you to hear..Another thing we have enough resources to feed ourselves and also to take care of a fraction of your population as well..go and check in your villages what is the suicide rate of your farmers and other facts about your community..you have seen yourself growing in metros only...About pakistan ..we do not like them nor do we like you..Go and check the history of kashmir check the facts before commenting Name changed Javed Ba-ta-d .we have converted,it was our wish we wanted to ,so why are you worried..another thing dont have a notion that we are going to give up ..our struggle will continue for ages..only thing is that if you could fight for more than 100 years that too in dotis which british used to pull out and your so called freedom fighters used to perish and ways we are going to be a diehard stuff..
RE:Harsh Facts
by Demo-crazy on Dec 20, 2007 04:14 PM Permalink
I have one comment to make on "we have converted,it was our wish we wanted to ,so why are you worried.."
Please remember you were not even born when the forced conversions took place. The real fact is that most of the conversions were forced - death or conversion. So people chose to live and converted. These happened centuries ago.
Quite a few dared to make the ultimate sacrifice for upholding their religious freedom. But for many it is most difficult decision to make.
We do not blame you for continuing in the same religion to which your fore-fathers were forcibly converted.
But we wish to tell you that you are our brothers. I wish you Good luck.
RE:Harsh Facts
by Demo-crazy on Dec 20, 2007 02:30 PM Permalink
Kashmir and those living there are part of India. We all have our state specific identities, but that is not national at all.
If the violence stops, Kashmir will prosper and there is no need for so much of army presence. As long as there are terrorists causing problems, there will be Army.
The views of few vocal people like you does not mean there can be independence. It is neither feasible, nor practical. Kashmir is an integral part of India, and all Kashmiris have their right to fundamental rights (and duties) as enshrined in the Constitution.
RE:Harsh Facts
by ravi prakash on Dec 22, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
Dear Sir, If all the people of JK feel in the same manner, then they should boycott everything Indian or Pakistani. This means, tell India to stop all funding, all goods, let no man buy any Indian stuff, let there be no Indian Tourists nor Pilgrims nor any food supplies nor education of children etc. I think that your views are colored by thinking that Kashmir can survive on its own without an economy that is fully independent of India. Today in an increasingly dependent world, your mind lingers in an old bygone era of happy isolation. Wake Up.
Sir, Thanks Mr. kaul for Good job. You have exposed double standarads in Our Country by CONGRESS. Why congress because they have ruled us for 50 Years hence they are root cause of all problems. They have inserted their representative in Each media whether it is Newspapaer or Electronic media. These implants do filtering of news regarding hindus. I wish to Know how many minutes are spent on News item on Kashmiri pandits as compared to Minorirtes ( Example Guj. Riots ). All medias highlight plight of Muslims during Guj. Riots but nobody thinks of Families of Karsevaks who were Burned in GODHRA. Whether CNN -IBN lead by Mr. Sardesai is gone & met these families. Enquired about theier present position. Has he done same with Plight of Kashmiri pandits who are satying in Tents in Jammu. Mr. rajat Sharma may not also have spent time in grilling Any congress leadre or Abdullahs Sr. or Jr.
I do not think there is any hope for Hindus in this country. A small nation like Bangladesh dares to kill our BSF personels knowing fully well that Govt. of India will sent only a Regret letter no more action.
there is leadership in india just get them big majority and he is Narendra Modi after godhra riots there is not a single terrorist attack in gujarat. they can deal with this bas.--rd..
LET US SEE IF PM CAN LOOSE SLEEP FOR A MUSLIM CAUGHT IN UK, HOW CAN HE SLEEP WHEN KILLERS OF LAKHS OF PANDITS ARE ROAMING FREE WITH STATE PROTECTION. HINDUS ARE BETTER OFF IN MALAYSIA
The BJP also was to repeal article 356 in Kashmir but they did not do it? WHY didn't they when it was in their manifesto? There was only one person who could have dealt with the Kashmir Issue with an iron fist and that was Indira Gandhi. But its a pity that now there is no such leadership in India.
RE:BJP did Nothing
by Krish Jag on Dec 20, 2007 01:55 PM Permalink
As I know, for any constitutional amendment, one should have 2/3rd majority in the parliament. BJP never had 2/3rd majority.
RE:BJP did Nothing
by Amee Patel on Dec 20, 2007 01:57 PM Permalink
no u r wrong there is leadership in india just get them big majority and he is Narendra Modi after godhra riots there is not a single terrorist attack in gujarat.
RE:BJP did Nothing
by Neptune Agassi on Dec 20, 2007 02:14 PM Permalink
Well we voters have to decide whether to be at home during elections or get out and make the difference. the recent elections have seen a turnout of 60% in Gujarat and HP 67% how will the BJP get a majority if the majority does not go to vote. If you will see that in Maharashtra the turnout was only around 45% thats the reason congress came to power. It might be ok in Guj or HP but they don't make up for the whole country.
RE:Somone please write IB for Cases against gujarat massacre
by Ahimsa on Dec 20, 2007 01:57 PM Permalink
yeah some one should write for ram innocents hindu s being burntby muslims in Godhra.
RE:Somone please write IB for Cases against gujarat massacre
by babar on Dec 20, 2007 02:07 PM Permalink
The facts about kashmir are different.your politicians are making a lot of money and given you the distorted picture of kashmir.An honest kashmiri pandit will tell you as to why they left kashmir..futher there was a chance for indian gov to improve the situation in kashmir a few years back by adressing the concerns of people and by resetting pandits back .but they failed instead there are gross human rights violations which has made the people think again about india and made their resolve stronger they see both india and pakistan as occupied forces ..Now the freedom movement is stronger than ever even if it may not seem so.this is because a common man is haressed and is fed up with both the occupied forces
RE:Somone please write IB for Cases against gujarat massacre
by Rajesh pandit on Dec 21, 2007 10:35 PM Permalink
Which freedom movement are u talking about now. It is died with 9/11 . Being a kashmiri you must be well aware how the so called Kasmiri leaders are miniting money. Kashmiri leaders are only concerned about green bags weather from Pakistan , India , OIC or terrorist. I don't know how you have been fooled to believe that it is gaining momentum
In a recent talk show about Taslima the ex cm of J&K clearly said that if any action creates trouble in his constitutency or state he will refrain from that action. That means if he takes action against terrorists and they make a big deal about it then he will prefer to refrain from taking such an action in " Public Interest" currently the public intrest in Kashmir is to use Indian funds but when it comes to calling themselves Indians they prefer to call themselves azad k's. What can you expect from such a cm and also the other ministers in the state.
