how dare you call the communists trators? who has asked for a certificate in patroitism from you? those who accuse the CPI to side with the chinese in 1962, are liars. i challenge them to prove that allegation. and if not suppporting the quit india movement in 1942 was treachous, then so were the RSS as they too did not suppot that movement. the fact is that the communists are slowly but surely growing in power. this cannot be digested by the reactionaries and "pseudo-nationalists". to couter the communists, the last resort is always "patroitism". and why not? samuel jhonson so rightly said that "patroism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"!
how dare you call the communists trators? who has asked for a certificate in patroitism from you? those who accuse the CPI to side with the chinese in 1962, are liars. i challenge them to prove that allegation. and if not suppporting the quit india movement in 1942 was treachous, then so were the RSS as they too did not suppot that movement. the fact is that the communists are slowly but surely growing in power. this cannot be digested by the reactionaries and "pseudo-nationalists". to couter the communists, the last resort is always "patroitism". and why not? samuel jhonson so rightly said that "patroism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"!
I've created a petition in petitiononline.com to vote against the n-deal and planning to send it to Supreme Court before our scients were sent by our politions to submit our 30 years of R&D to process Thorium and pay 100 times more money to get Uranium from other countries though having Worlds' 30% of Thorium reserve.
RE:India's 30% Thorium resource base can fuel for next 2500 years of Electricity
by Lalatendu Deo on Aug 23, 2007 08:10 PM Permalink
Let us waitfor 2050 before the thorium we have can be utilised. Franckly, we do not have the technology at hand now. No one can say with certainity as to when our first Fast Breeder Commercial Reactor would be commissioned. Once we have successfully setup the forst one, we can say with some predictability as to when our second and third would come up. And after that the others. Shall we stay in dark before that date?
With Certainity I can say that we shall soon have an 18-hours a day power cut very soon if we do not put up several power plants; be it nuclear, be it hydel or be it thermal. The non conventional power units can not solve our near future problems.
What%u2019s the use of any meeting by the CPI (M) so long as it is foundationally biased and doesn%u2019t have open mind?
The Indo-US deal should be welcome from the angle of democracy the world over, and also in view of the larger human resource link between both. US is the biggest haven of opportunity for most of the promising Indian youth and entrepreneurs, Muslims and progeny of reds included. The Indian reds are trying to encash the vocal but motivated Muslim disenchantment with the US%u2019s international initiatives, forgetting that most of the Islamic countries are not breeding grounds of merit and eclectic development, but are hot beds of jehadism. Communistic China and the Islamic countries are not a greener pasture for the meritorious Indian youth and entrepreneurs. A mere 59 bloc of MPs trying to ride roughshod over a majority is like the tail wagging the dog. They have totally forgotten to be conscious of much more important issues like all-pervasive corruption, lack of rural infrastructure, lack of civic amenities, lack of health & hygiene, need of education for all, etc.
The role of the Indian commies appears to be that of a fly in the ointment, a spoilsport, and a blackleg, subserving the interests of China, their paymaster.
Indian communists talking of India%u2019s %u2018sovereignty%u2019!? Notorious for their dogmatic approach and belated hindsight, the reds had reviled Indian icons like Swami Vivekananda, Subhas Chandra Bose, Mahatma Gandhi and Sardar Patel. They never acknowledge their Indian roots, and they never draw inspiration from the Indian ethos. How come suddenly the commies have begun to be %u2018patriotic%u2019 and talk of Indian %u2018sovereignty%u2019 judging by their outbursts of protestations in the matter? The commies seem to have been further emboldened by the stand of especially the BJP, who shouldn%u2019t have blindly opposed the Congress just because the latter happened to be in the saddle now, even as they continue to treat the BJP as an untouchable.
The strident stand of the Indian commies against the Indo-US nuclear deal confirms that the deal must certainly be in the interests of our country, for the Marxists have had a dubious distinction of always kowtowing to the dictatorial China and the theocratic Pakistan, India%u2019s sworn enemies, be it the Sino-Indian war, the Chinese annexation of Aksai Chin, the Sino-Paki Karakoram highway cutting through the Indian territory, the Chinese claim over Arunachal, the Indian nuclearization, the Kargil war, or the various Sino-Paki military deals, including the latest nuke one. The Marxists had plastered Kolkata with posters reading: %u201CChina%u2019s chairman is our chairman.%u201D Very recently, Sitaram Yechury hurriedly got issued visas to as many as 1000 Chinese engineers, bypassing all the security protocol and at the expense of our own engineering talent, to work for a Godavari pipeline project awarded to a Chinese company. How can the Indian commies now talk of India%u2019s %u2018sovereignty%u2019?
It means, leftists ae thinking that the so-called communal forces come back into the national centre stage is most dangerous that that of selling this country to USA under 123 agreement signed by the India Govt. Means, LEFTISTS are wanted to keep UPA Govt. to its full term, don't want to out it from the Power-- at least they can withdraw the support or resign enmasse, but they are well aware that even after withdrawing the support or resign of Leftists MPs enmasse against protesting to go ahead the 123 agreement, this UPA govt can still go ahead for its full term and go ahead to complete the 123 agreement as against LEFTISTS wishes by ruling in a minority status until and unless LEFTISTS come out strong and vote against this Govt. in Parliament on any no confidence motion on this issue. What a strange situation they are creating.
We don't know or nobody knows what lefts wanted from the present situation. They need to keep a check on the so-called communalforces come back into the Indian Politics (forget about once these forces were their most trusted friends in Indian Politics); in another way, they also wants to keep this UPA Govt. to its full term, (See Mr. Jyoti Basu's and other like minded left leaders statement) even though UPA Govt. is planning to go ahead 123 agreement which is as per their words are endagering Indias soverginity and dangerous to accept it. So in once sentenece they are telling that this agreement is not in the national interest and dangerous and still they wants to keep this Govt. and unable to throw out from the administrtion!!! Very strange!!! If they thinks that 123 agreement is against national interest, then their mum and reluctancy to keep this UPA Govt. to rule in minority status (as indicated from other sources) then they are also anti national(who are supporting the policies which are against the national interest knowingly - what else we can call). If leftists are thinking that UPA Govt is deliberately selling this country to USA and 123 agreement is anti national, then as a patriotic citizen or intellectuals group, they should have show the guts to throw out the UPA Govt. by introducing no-confidence motion in Parliament. Otherwise, in the public as well as in the international level, they will become A JOKER!!! It means as per them, communal forces come back is mo
In 2002, 360 Gwe (Giga Watt Electrical) produced from nuclear energy in this world. It is 16 % of total production.
Spent uranium must be guarded for about 15000 years. Plutonium for 75000 - 100,000 years.
Every year the world%u2019s 442 nuclear power plants produce 12000 tones of radioactive waste. UK has 90 tones of plutonium waste. Disposing this costs about US $ 93 billion.
Cost of nuclear plant is 3 times of fossil fuel plants.
Completion takes 12 to 15 years blocking return on the capital investment.in fact, from blue print to electricity production stage it will take 25-30 years.
Rs 10,00,000 crores are spent on nuclear power infrastructure by Indian govt. the return is 3% electricity and massive waste of resource.
Capital cost at price level of 1997-98 nuclear plants would cost Rs 5.23 crores/MW and Rs 3.75 Crores/MW for thermal plants.
There are countries thinking about shutting down all nuclear power plants
RE:Some facts about nuclear power plants
by fabreens on Aug 22, 2007 05:23 PM Permalink
Hey on, I don't know where you got that stupid number of 1 lac cr. spent on our nuclear plants. Since you like doing numbers, why don't you dig up the cost of hydel plants and fossil fuel plants in terms of environmental costs etc.? Soon we should be able to take care of nuclear waste by throwing it off into space, simple! Space rockets are cheap now..
RE:Some facts about nuclear power plants
by jagan on Aug 22, 2007 06:06 PM Permalink
sorry for sending the mail mutiple time. it was a mistake.
The cost of uranium mining, refining, enriching all produces lot of wastes and uses fossil fuel.
Can think about the fossil fuels burned in traffic jams and signals. Also remember that the engines, which are used in our vehicles, are less that 20% efficient. That is 80% of the energy is getting wasted. If we have good electric vehicles, which works at 80% efficiency we can save a lot of fossil fuel.
My question is why we have to spent our money to Americans to get this costliest electricity? I think they want their money back from us, which we got from IT and ITES outsourcing.
