I have gone through your article minutely and I strongly (and very strongly disapprove) of your view that Sanjoy Dutt did a great job of spreading the name of Gandhi. I think he should be grateful that a film director could him to play the role !! In fact Sanjoy Dutt -- in his real life -- would make our Bapu turn in his grave. Drugs, driving into pedestricians, drinking, bawdy party behaviour -- the list is endless. Lets say Sanjoy Dutt has used the Bapu's name to his advantage and you are acting as his apostle !!!!!
I do not know whether you know the Dutt's or whether you have any other reason to write just utter rubbish. Please as a journalist do not use your role to mislead audiences in the West with such sweet words that Sanjoy Dutt is a Gandhian. You should say that he is a spoiled brat -- who by his own choice breaks the law. I also think that you owe your readers -- especially in the West-- an apology for misleading them.
RE:Hi Mr Juluri
by Pradip Parekh on Aug 06, 2007 05:50 AM Permalink
good post tamojit ji. however, bapu was not a monotheist and hence was not buried in a grave in which to turn. hindus are cremated so body can best mingle with all the elements of nature; of course you knew it. one more bad figure of speech used in hindu india: "beef up".
RE:Hi Mr Juluri
by Dande Waala on Aug 06, 2007 10:19 AM Permalink
Good post Tamojit. I agree to the point you are trying to make here. Unfortunately, Indians use their heart more than their brain and rationality for Indians is driven by emotions and not by practical thinking. I am of the opinion that even Gandhi after doing what all he did for India should have been treated in the same way had he committed a crime. I am happy that the definition of law is changing in India .
RE:Hi Mr Juluri
by venkatesh chitradurga on Aug 06, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
OK sanjay Dutt not spoiled the Gandhi's name, but possessed AK56 Rifle and joined hands with Underground Dons like Dawood Ibrahim, Chota Shakeel and others to prove his non violence and peaceful existence in Mumbai. So he is great and patriot, because he was a rifle for self defence only? Probably, his Gandhi might have done like him? r
RE:Hi Mr Juluri
by Praveen Togadia on Aug 06, 2007 04:31 AM Permalink
Atleast sanjay dutt did not abuse and insult the name of gandhi like most of our educated and cultural hindutva gangsters do!
RE:Hi Mr Juluri
by Satya ss on Aug 06, 2007 05:17 AM Permalink
Thank god, Whoa! Sanjay respects Gandhi so much..What a saint...Is it a rule that if you are a indian you have to repect and follow Gandhi? Use your brains people, do the right thing..punish the guilty, don't bow before cowards like Sanjay. OKAY if he really did not insult Gandhi, why doesn;t he accept the punishment justly and be a example for otheres rather than going to Supreme Court and begging for PARDON ..Isnt that insulting Gandhi..Gandhi went to jail for no reason and won great political mileage..Sanjay is in jail for a good reason so STOP bull crapping that gandhian should be pardoned.
I am interested in knowing how Gandhi will deal with terrorist and people having illegal arms. I guess Gandhi would have himself been blown to pieces by terrorism so he won;t be alive to do anything. While Gandhi's principles are honorable, it is outdated. In his methods you could reason with the bad guy..but in modern world no one has patience to reason, which is why the law has to be iron handed and punish the guilty. In USA the punishment for video piracy is 5yr in prison, Surely terrorism is much worse than video piracy, and deserves more punishment. Sanjay should be lucky to have just got 6yrs. Imagine if had known the truth about the blasts and still shut himself up. If the public wants more gandhigiri, there are plenty of actors around, let Sanjay rot in jail for having been in the company of BAD people and traitors.....NO MERCY..but that's only me.
RE:RE:What would Gandhi do?
by Praveen Togadia on Aug 06, 2007 04:33 AM Permalink
There was terrorism even during the gandhi days but with another name! But even terrorists of those days revered gandhi unlike some of our gandhi haters.
RE:What would Gandhi do?
by Satya ss on Aug 06, 2007 05:12 AM Permalink
HAHAHAHA! terrorist respecting Gandhi..What a joke ..And who killed him? Gandhi's principles can not be applied in modern world period. And what just because Sanjay aped Gandhi's principles on big screen he should be pardoned? Why don't you go and tell the terrorist "Sir you have bombed Mumbai, why don;t you try delhi, our police will make all arrangements so you can peacefully explode the bomb and kill another hundred innocent people". I believe in Mahabaratha or Ramayana where the cruel have to be punished even by death. I believe in Gandhi's principles in the way i live my life, repecting others and being simple. BUT i do not let Gandhi's principles of pacifying with terrorists as a govt policy. Terrorists have to be shown the boot ..no question. All iam saying is the author is trying to be utterly stupid in saying "a guy should be pardoned because he is a gandhian". Sanju is a THUG..before, now and ever after, trying to pretend like GANDHI...hehehe whom are you befooling dude..
RE:What would Gandhi do?
by Amit Shesh on Aug 06, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
Its too simplistic to apply the exactly same Gandhian principles now, because the enemy is not our ruler, and the enemy is not overt. Gandhian principles worked because they frustrated the oppressive rulers into submission. Applying the same thing here is very naive, and so is assuming that he would have acted in the same way.
The whole world has "combated" terrorism for so many years. Why hasn't it ended yet? In fact it has only worsened, not only because of the nature of terrorism, but those who fight it have selfish motives of their own which leads to even greater disillusionment. I am all for eliminating terrorists IF I can trust my government to act solely in the best interests of the nation while doing so, and not their own political agendas.
In my opinion, I think the author got carried away by the glamour of bollywood. reel life and real life are totally different. If someone pays money to underworl, knowing that it is a crime and goes on to buy dangerous weapons from them it is herendouus. The money paid by Sanjay Dutt was utilised for anti India activities and definetly to sponsor bomb blasts. This is the way underworld gathers money. Again I support the judge for sentencing Sanjay for 6 yrs. Remember most importantly sanjya bought a gun even before there was a threat to his family.
Mr.Juluri, you have serious thinking to do on this article and as a person with a repute abroad you will have to come up with another article after some serious thinking. Please, Please set aside your ego and come up with something which really promotes Gandhi giri. I myself am a fan of Sanjay Dutt, but this doesnt mean I support him in his horrible activites. I think this is an opportunity for Sanjay to reincarnate as a follower of Gandhi and spread his message when he comes out after 6 years.
RE:Insulting Gandhi and Indians
by Praveen Togadia on Aug 06, 2007 04:36 AM Permalink
If having a gun sanjay never fired is anti national what are you going to say about Advani and Modi and their gang who started this horrible blood shed in this country? Are they nationals with a license to kill?
RE:RE:RE:Insulting Gandhi and Indians
by Satya ss on Aug 06, 2007 05:19 AM Permalink
Praveen togadia come out of the veil. Are you a pakistani or a muslim..Stop talking crap.. Are you sanjay's chamcha? We are talking about Sanjay and NOT abt advani.
RE:Insulting Gandhi and Indians
by Dande Waala on Aug 06, 2007 10:30 AM Permalink
Don't worry Munnabhai 3'rd(also based on Gandhiian, bhagat singh etcs principles) is featuring Advani, Modi and the likes. They can be pardoned once the movie is released.
Let law take it course, Indian judiciary has set a very good example by sending Sanjay to jail. In a similar way all exploiters of law like Salman, Nanda etc should also be put behind bars. Bravo Indian Judicial system!!!
If Sanjay got AK-56 for his protection then many more such people in Mumbai should have got the same. It was not just him or his family which was under threat, almost every Mumbaikar was. He was just justifying his criminal act with threats. His links with underworld dated back.
RE:Absurd justification
by Rakesh Mehta on Aug 05, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
In all honesty, everyone knows he was getting the arms not to protect his family, but to support the terroristic activity. Only that it could not be proved. And he got away without any TADA related charges. But to absolve him of any crime even after he himself admits it, because he happens to have acted in some great movies with phenomenal performance, is sheer stupidity.
RE:Absurd justification
by Vinay kantiyar on Aug 06, 2007 04:38 AM Permalink
Why no action is taken against narendra modi who is responsible for killing thousands of muslims. Try him in court along with the other terrorists of every religion.
RE:Absurd justification
by Ringo Star on Aug 06, 2007 04:40 AM Permalink
What u say makes sense vinay. Atleast drag all criminals however high and mighty they are to court and let the court decide. I doubt if our nationalists will allow that!
RE:Absurd justification
by Rakesh Mehta on Aug 06, 2007 07:58 AM Permalink
With all due respect, Ringo and Vinay, have you considered that you may be idiots?
I wonder what value Mr. Vamsee you are teaching to those poor students at University of San Francisco. You are a shame for having written such an article. Just beacuse Sanjay Dutt starred in a movie he did not become a Gandhi. By that count, he had starred in a lot of gangster movies so then he should be punished. Sanjay Dutt never in his real life, read again real life not the reel life, did any gandhigiri. Please think before writting. Indians are emotional but not fools.
RE:Pathetic Professor Vamsee
by Vinay kantiyar on Aug 06, 2007 04:44 AM Permalink
What the writer has said makes sense to the moderates . The nationalist extremists may not like it but if you convict some one convict them all.Which is a greater crime? having a gun or instigating millions of youth to create religious unrest and also encouraging them to murder people.
RE:Pathetic Professor Vamsee
by vishal raina on Aug 06, 2007 04:50 PM Permalink
its not always right n wrong.its about law and justice.s.dutt is serving his sentence coz of his karma
RE:Pathetic Professor Vamsee
by Rakesh Mehta on Aug 05, 2007 07:16 PM Permalink
Well said, Mr. Prahalad. "Indians are emotional but not fools." The ABCD seems to think that way. Imagine writing such crap in a NYT or Wash. Post. about, let us say, Jose Padilla. I think the Univ would try to bring sanctions against him.
To, Rediff editorial board I want to report the whole article as abuse Yes, it has abused a billion plus indians by supporting underworld activists and terrorists acting against interest of india
RE:Gandhian Gangster
by Nitin Jain on Aug 05, 2007 05:58 PM Permalink
Absolutely right Prakash. This is an abuse to one bn Indians and our judiciary. Rediff must have thought for this nonsense article. Shame on rediff to publish this article.
