Atleast for next 20 years or so, US would be the pre-eminent power and the gatekeeper of NSG. If the deal breaks down, there is no reason why it can not be restarted when the next US Prez takes over. Instead of reacting against US, it may be advisable to explore the possibility of continuing the trust building measures in the domain of security matrix and economic linkages. A reasoned and caliberated response to US let down would avoid damage to the present day stakeholders and enhance India's perceptions in the eyes of still suspicious Americans.
RE:Better luck next time
by Veyron on Apr 23, 2007 05:05 AM Permalink
Americans were not really serious about this deal. It was just a carrot to make India vote in UNSC in line with US. Now they don%u2019t need India support and that%u2019s how their all principle and values have come into picture. Americans are shrewd; we got to be really smart to get any favorable deal from them. Govt must stand firm and should not bow to any pressure. I wish left, right and center could think same way on this issue, at-least.
RE:Better luck next time
by dull roots on Apr 23, 2007 07:26 AM Permalink
The weakness I think lies with the standard of US negotiators. They do not know how to play the ball on their side and now seek elevation to political level. Isn't handling of US politicians their responsibility? Why they need Indian negotiators to talk to their politicians to just maintain what they have already agreed to? Uttering pious words about Indian being good and sincere is simply silly. This 123 agreement would bring US, EU closer to not only India, but also to Russia and many other third world nations. It would be a major stablising factor for Israel while it seeks resoution to its vexed situation. Terror war would receive a much need impetus by legtimising US effort, since the erstwhile 'victims' viz Indian and Russia would be on the same side. Making undemocratic Pakistan an ally in terror war in not exactly convincing to Americans themselves. The soft and hard power projection of India and its deep historical reach to clarify to the vast populace grappling with hate induced terror instillation, specially in the subcontinental context, need not be underestimated. The consummation of the 123 deal and confirming Indian inclusion to NSG would signal precedence of law over all other interests. Strengthening International Law is the best anti-dote to terror which is basically anti-law.
RE:Better luck next time
by hi on Apr 23, 2007 07:53 AM Permalink
Other nations doing lot of deals & supplies, other things, why this much analysis & other things in case of Indians. Every one knows about our requirements. Americans know better about India & other countries also, know about India, why is the problem for few people in the middle & try to give some un-necessary comments. I am fighting w/ a group of gangs, my ability is very less. Get some chance in the middle & write stupid parasite comments by others, when reading every one knows.
RE:Better luck next time
by sreekumar chandershekar on Apr 23, 2007 09:45 AM Permalink
most democrats oppose the nuclear deal with india, president bush and the republicans have helped to pass the 123 legislation. The nuclear deal will any way collapse once a democrat becomes president.
RE:Better luck next time
by hi on Apr 23, 2007 10:07 AM Permalink
@sreekumar chandershekar, What is your wish? Why do you bother about others wishes, this might happen, that might happen. Don't ever see thing straight?
RE:stop this deal
by hi on Apr 23, 2007 01:30 AM Permalink
Lot of ways to get power & lot of ways to use power too. Our country is not about using power for civilian purposes of generating electricity.
RE:stop this deal
by hi on Apr 23, 2007 01:34 AM Permalink
Lot of ways to get power & lot of ways to use power too. Our country is about using power for civilian purposes of generating electricity & for peaceful use of power for defensive purpose.
RE:[object]
by hi on Apr 23, 2007 08:02 AM Permalink
Lot of ways to get power & lot of ways to use power too. But our country always choose soft path. We were clean & never proliferated. So, we should get our recognization properly, we should not be given this much restrictions for supplying a fuel, while for others it is very freely available at will. So, we need a recognization what we deserve.
RE:stop this deal
by hi on Apr 23, 2007 01:27 AM Permalink
Already the IPI pipeline is coming from another two nations, we be depend on this also to another country.
RE:stop this deal
by hi on Apr 23, 2007 01:49 AM Permalink
fkrs like you come & given trouble when raising the dam level & giving problem, but ask subsidy electricity for farmers & poors, from where we do give electricity from shaking your rotten balls?
RE:[object]
by chetan on Apr 23, 2007 07:14 AM Permalink
I donot know where you derive your assumptions from, its fun to comment and get million replies for a stupid comment made in a hurry.
RE:stop this deal
by hi on Apr 23, 2007 07:42 AM Permalink
You don't worry whether million comments or not, even if I not write comments, any way they are going to fill up what ever they want, who restrict. Any one can write here anything ranging from fk aish words to see how our PM was written, so, what is the problem in my writing any way I want.
RE:stop this deal
by hi on Apr 23, 2007 01:43 AM Permalink
If china give enough power to India for next 1000 years, then there are lot of ways of generating of power. So, we basically depend on another country for even the basic thing of power generation capability too. When they press a small switch, our whole country will be in blackout. Is that you want to expect here?
RE:stop this deal
by chetan on Apr 23, 2007 07:12 AM Permalink
well if not bangladesh then america will press the button, well i am just suggesting to go to a reliable third party bangladesh is just an example you can go to nepal too if you want.
RE:stop this deal
by hi on Apr 23, 2007 01:38 AM Permalink
Chetan, From your questions, you yourselves, projected your intentions outside. So, N-Deal is best. Thank you for your comment. So, your worrying about testing thinking is crocodile tears. Is that right?
autocratic, shrewd and wily pro-colonial psyched Manmohan singh will end in the destruction of this country, nobody knows how much defense secrets have already been shared with the americans.
RE:manmohan bent to sell india
by hi on Apr 23, 2007 01:25 AM Permalink
I know from wikipedia all the secrets any way, then what else is there to share? We are open any way. We need our separate GPS kind of thing for our own country. It will help us in war times w/o dependency to another country.
