Oh dear%u2026 we have to blame ourselves for this situation. We were complaining that British government used divide and rule policy and now exactly the same thing is happening.
Politics based on Religion
Policies based on Religion
Education based on the quota system
Nothing is going to improve our country.
We are in a terrible mess and we are heading towards a terrible mess.
Why do we need this quota system now in Tamil Nadu?
This government is going mad about language, quota , free gifts.
hey bros. lets unite and wage a war againt these corrupt leaders. They cannot do better and niether can give us good future, we will have to think fo these guys before they kiil our future.
RE:gr8 leaders
by Kaka Mehra on Apr 05, 2007 05:15 PM Permalink
If all the educated people take oath that they would use their right to VOTE in every election, these bludy politician will have no place on the earth to hide. No need to do anything foolish, just decide that this time each and every educated voter will VOTE in the interest of State/Nation keeping your personal interest aside. The result will be surprising.
Hi all,Very good tactic by TamilNadu govt which was already used by britishers.That is devide and rule.AT that time Britishers were half succeded in make differances between Muslims and HINDUs.Now these govt went on step a head and already devided INDIA into castes and again they are using relegion.Great brains are at work to demolish the INDIA.
cheers to tamilnadu govt.
also cheers to all of our indians who are scholding each other by using relegion.
Every day is politicians.They wont fight each other.They will make people to fight against each other.
Wipro chairman Mr. Azim Premji's comment on reservation:
I think we should have job reservations in all the fields. I completely support the PM and all the politicians for promoting this. Let's start the reservation with our Cricket Team. We should have 10 percent reservation for Muslims, 10 percent for Christians, 30 percent for OBC , SC /ST, like that.Cricket rules should be modified accordingly. The boundary circle should be reduced for an SC/ST player. The four hit by an OBC player should be considered as a six and a six hit by an OBC player should be counted as 8 runs. An OBC player scoring 60 runs should be declared as a century. We should influence ICC and make rules so that the pace bowlers like Shoaib Akhtar should not bowl fast balls to our OBC player. Bowlers should bowl maximum speed of 80 kilometer per hour to an OBC player. Any delivery above this speed should be made illegal. Also we should have reservation in Olympics. In the 100 meters race, an OBC player should be given a gold medal if he runs 80 meters. There can be reservation in Government jobs also. Let's recruit SC/ST and OBC pilots for aircrafts which are carrying the ministers and politicians (that can really help the country...) Ensure that only SC/ST and OBC doctors do the operations for the ministers and other politicians. (Another way of saving the country...) Let's be creative and think of ways and means to guide INDIA forward... Lets show the world that INDIA is a GREAT country. Let's be proud of being an INDIAN...
May the good breed of politicians like ARJUN SINGH live long........
Kindly forward this mail to as many people as you can..............
RE:Wipro chairman Mr. Azim Premji's comment on reservation:
by Bhoomipalagan on Apr 05, 2007 05:27 PM Permalink
If only we had reservation in our cricket team ,we would have won the world cup so many times. Time to give Sc,ST,BC folk a chance to play cricket & our brahmin friends can watch from the side lines .
RE:Wipro chairman Mr. Azim Premji's comment on reservation:
by vijay baskar on Apr 05, 2007 05:51 PM Permalink
which under developed city and family are u from bhoomipalagan ? try to educate before u read..name the number of brahmins in Indian team.. Rahul,Sachin and Karthik thats it ! NON BRAHMINS ARE dada, uthappa, yuvi,dhoni,bajji,ajit and muslims are zaheer,pathan Dont be neducated join some pre school and learn something..
RE:Wipro chairman Mr. Azim Premji's comment on reservation:
by vijay krishnan on Apr 05, 2007 04:53 PM Permalink
If that is the message by Premji why do they request the government for subsidies & tax relief for the business they do.Why cant they purchase lands at the existinng rates instead of asking at bare minimun prices??Why do they need a reservation there!!!!
RE:Wipro chairman Mr. Azim Premji's comment on reservation:
by MOHAN PB on Apr 05, 2007 05:05 PM Permalink
Dear Vijay, It is unfortunate that you have misunderstood Premji's comments and wrongly linked it with buying land at minimum prices. An investment by an IT or any other profy-making company returns much more to the country by way of taxes on the revenue earned, foriegn exchange inflow etc. the loss made by selling land at a reduced proce is quickly made up. As far as reservations go, nobody denies the need for uplifting the downtrodden. The problem is that all "reservations" are abused both by the politicians as well as the public with the result that those who really need it never get it. this is exactly what Premji means. Thanks, P.B.Mohan
RE:Wipro chairman Mr. Azim Premji's comment on reservation:
by vijay baskar on Apr 05, 2007 05:21 PM Permalink
so operations and aircraft by OBC will only be to politicians and ministers..good premji.. u have a good heart to save common people...i think u r indirectly trying to demolish the era of these politicians by getting them operated by an OBC so that operation is a sure failure
RE:[object]
by MOHAN PB on Apr 05, 2007 05:08 PM Permalink
Dear Arun, Please develop the capability to articulate your points logically rather than use abbreviated invectives. Sorry to rub it in, but looking at your post, it looks like you have not really benefited from reservation. Would request rediff not to delete Arun's post. Thanks, P.B.Mohan
While, reservations are inevitable, Supreme Court cannot do much as new bills/laws can be passed.
The only way to bring down this reservation is to jointly come with proposal from all caste, community, religion, clan and sects.
My proposal is 1. Limit the reservation to maximum one per generation and next generation of the privileged will not be eligible for reservation? 2. Families with more than 2 kids as of born after 5-Apr-07 nine mths (to accommodate the in process ones) , will not be eligible for reservation. This will control population to some extent. 3. About 50% beneficiaries from this quota to come from smaller towns /village people who have at least passed 10th standard from smaller places. 4. People changing religion after today i.e. 5-Apr-07 will not be eligible for quota. My objective here is to avoid any possible conflict between group.
This will provide upliftment of more families and hence, their vote bank will remain intact? I am sure with such policies, the need for reservation, in terms of percentage, would come down in a generations time. And the disparity in eligibility criterion will come down drastically.
Let%u2019s all unite and avoid a possible civil war .
RE:A good alternate
by Rohit Dewangan on Apr 05, 2007 07:03 PM Permalink
Ok Guys, I am not saying that we should tell these politicians to implement. I know they wont listen. I am talking about people movement. Normal people should start thinking beyond food, clothing and shelter. Their is danger of civil disturbance where as in other countries have sorted out their differences long back and having development and luxury in their life. I am saying that religious leaders from parties should break the shackles and sit together and decide.
Lets get Shankrachariyas, Moulvis, preists, BC representative, Tribal kings etc to decide on the long term future. And make this politician implement.
Another idea is to collect ideas from intellectuals likes you.
Implementation may follow Gandhiji or Bhagat singh approach but the important thing is that all should know what the ultimate goal is, the path to reach the goal and if their are serious hindrance then alternatives.
All educated and sensible people please make effort to spread knowledge
Guys all revolution starts with simple thoughts. my 2 cents.
RE:
by GWB on Apr 05, 2007 04:39 PM Permalink
Dear Mr. Rohit, get a grip on the situation! U thnk such options wud not hv flashed in the minds of any politician? The fact plainly is such relatively ideal things are to no politician's benefit! Forget any 'leader' to think this direction! U must realize, outside of the judiciary (atleast the Supreme Court in my opinion), it'll only be populist measures that count... and populism typically translates to unabashed ("no strings attached") translation of a thought.. y wud a 'backward' community agree to only have 1 generation worth of benefits, atleast voluntarily (given that it presently is without any time limit)? if this is so, y wud a politician take this fwd, risking bad image in the very community whose rights he's supposedly championing? Any practical reserved beneficiary will only want this to continue forever, and I don't blame him/her one bit...
Do u thnk politicians even care 2 hoots abt the 'religion' or 'caste' they champion? (BJP included)... In the context of a mis informed / illiterate electorate, I thnk politicians are only doing what is expected... Other than the boring solution of *all* people waking up and seeing the bigger picture of the long term future, there don't seem to be many non radical solutions to this!
RE:A good alternate
by Ram Prasad on Apr 05, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
Very good, i agreee with you 4 point formula. Can these politicans take this up, without losing vote banks?? Dont know!
This is ridiculous. These AH politicians are going to drive the country backwards following thier vote bank politics and thier minority appeasement policies. Throw open the doors of opportunities to all and please do away with these reservation policies and vote bank politics
we often hear of military coups taking place in other parts of the world , i wld be the happiest if somethin like this takes place in india.Let the army kick send those politicians who support reservation into exile and save our country from the leechers!1 is such thing possible in india??
RE:can army take over our country?
by GWB on Apr 05, 2007 04:48 PM Permalink
U r in utopia my friend! Unfortunately, the Indian Armed forces are the most disciplined body in India, they obey their political masters well... Among all other groups in India, they show little or no disobedience to the executive/ legislature/ judiciary...
The day may not be far when TN will have 100% reservation, leading to exodus of general category students and other people seeking jobs. I just hope that this does not become a benchmark for other states in India.
