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Change ur religion for ur children
by iamansp on Apr 05, 2007 08:55 PM  Permalink 

Thank god I am not for tamil nadu, but I feel for the hindus of Tamilnadu. The govt is acting like a bib brother.
Already that state has around or more than 60% reservations. If any hindu and if for your past sins you were born in an upper caste family for no fault of yours.. plz change ur religion.. atleast for your next generation.

Stupid politicians.

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We deserve this
by Mahesh on Apr 05, 2007 08:48 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The south - more so TN (where I hail from)has never ever been directly or indirectly involved in any confrontationist attitude. The north has taken the brunt of it. Even during the mandalisation period, it the north that went up in flames, the south was a mute spectator. Even now it is the north that is spearheading the agittations and we in the south have not offered any resistance. on 05/04/2007 we just heard the following:

Muslims not a religious minority in UP: Allahabad HC

and on the same day TN creates reservation quota for the same religion.

So are we saying that we will have state wise minority / majority issue? Wow, then the divison of this coutry into individual nations is not too far of.

Then let me in advance say to all fo you, welcome to the Union Socialist Republic of TN - God Disowned Country.


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RE:We deserve this
by m on Apr 06, 2007 02:17 AM  Permalink
We are generously offering a separate statehood to upper caste/anti reservation people who are less than 10% of India.
http://www.blogpoll.com/poll/view_Poll.php?type=java&poll_id=108166


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RE:We deserve this
by Jackson on Apr 05, 2007 08:54 PM  Permalink
There is no need for agitation in TN. Most people accept that vulnerable people need to be protected and made equal citizens of the country. Dont look at it purely from a reservation angle..

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RE:We deserve this
by iamansp on Apr 05, 2007 09:10 PM  Permalink
South Indians are docile. We have a chalta hai attitude. We dont think about our next generation. That is the problem. Atleast ppl from north have a different attitude when they face a problem.

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TN to provide separate reservation for Muslims
by later gupta on Apr 05, 2007 08:24 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Now, look at the verdict of Allahabad HC about minority clain in UP.
If Truth comes out TN also will show the same
result.
Are the politicians "FIGUREBLIND" ?

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RE:TN to provide separate reservation for Muslims
by Mahesh on Apr 05, 2007 08:28 PM  Permalink
At last this is the day I was waiting for. I knew it had to happen soon, because the feel good factor has been going on for sometime. Actually it was the contrary to what was hapenning. I read quite a few of the messages in these columns and the MK bashing has started in all earnestness.

I had said the same things in the earlier blog on reservation during Friday / Saturday / Sunday and that there is more to this than meets the eye. How true I was? I had even quoted statistics only to be shooed off by "some blog pundits" who said that I was heartless and that I did not care for others. I had even created a blog calling it "Breaking News" (pun)asking people who could not get an admission because of the quota raj in TN to avail of the reservation system being introduced in the US at the behest of the Indian PM (based on the threat from MK).

The party has just begun. Have fun bashing each other up. That is the only solution to all the mess that is happening around us. As for Jackson saying that in 30 years nothing has been screwed, my prayer is, that he lives on for another 30 - 50 years to let reality hit hard. I am sure he willthen rue the day he wrote this message on the blog.


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RE:TN to provide separate reservation for Muslims
by m on Apr 05, 2007 11:39 PM  Permalink
Traditionally seeking alms in the Name of God has been the profession of Brahmins.


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Y not reservation in Parliament and all Legislative Assemblies?
by GWB on Apr 05, 2007 08:15 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

25% seats strictly for SC/ST

27% strictly for OBC (non creamy layer)

20% for OBC creamy layer

13% for Christians

15% Muslims



No FC representative



We can still have democracy by having 2 or more candidates fighting it out for the particular seat











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RE:Y not reservation in Parliament and all Legislative Assemblies?
by m on Apr 05, 2007 09:42 PM  Permalink
Quite simple. Upper caste people are unwelcome in TN.

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RE:Y not reservation in Parliament and all Legislative Assemblies?
by Mahesh on Apr 05, 2007 08:21 PM  Permalink
Then none of the current goons can get into parliament. The current goons dont even want the 33% across the board reservation passed for women - lest they get hounded out of the decision making bodies. This will not happen in your life time or mine. God help our country.

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TN and politics
by kumar on Apr 05, 2007 08:03 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I dont necessarily agree with what is happening. I don't agree to reservation based on religion. Despite being FC, i am okay with reservation based on castes. The perfect thing would be reservation by economic standard. I just wanted to say this:

Every party has good and bad points about it. Some more than others. The dravidian parties in TN has actually done well not only for TN but for India. They have brought TN to be one of the states with better socio economic indicators. They have done this without going communist. Secondly, it is because of the South, especially the dravidian parties that we have english so prominently in India hence giving us that great advantage in service industry around the world.

Thirdly, DMK and AIADMK have been voted back into power. This is despite what you say is bad politics. I am sure they are doing something right because unlike states like Bihar, they have achieved a lot.

Lastly, I am from UP. I would rather DMK run UP than the goons that have run UP since independence. If UP could be half of what TN is now, Indian economy would be better for it, due to the large population of my state.

Higher education, access to healthcare, etc, etc are great in TN unlike UP.

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RE:TN and politics
by Basker Mathrubootham on Apr 05, 2007 08:36 PM  Permalink
The so called backward castes in Tamil Nadu constitute 94% of the population. The reservation system was started to keep out Brahmins from the work force and not because of the love for backward castes. Despite being 3% of the population, brahmins were 72% of the workforce. There is no other way they could have achieved this parity except by thrusting reservations. No other country or state has achieved so much systematic annihilation of hardworking people.
Backward classes were added at random over the years. It is indeed puzzling for a state which claims to be so forward in economic and other indicators calls 94% of the population backward.
No other government in India can come to power by offering free colour tvs. Despite reserving 69% of the seats in college and government jobs, people still need freebies to come to power. After all haven't they acknowledged that they are incapable of good governance. Shame on them.

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RE:TN and politics
by vivek murthi on Apr 05, 2007 09:52 PM  Permalink
You make a very good point Basker M. Just want to add my 2 cents worth to it. In all these years since reservations was started in TN, they have systematically removed forward class people from the workforce in the government sector. Today I am sure that the percentage of FC/Brahmin workforce in govt. offices are insignificant. No wonder you cannot stop corrupt/lethargic/incompetant government officers...especially if they are in that job because it was handed to them without any effort/sweat. I am not saying that all of them are corrupt/incompetant but a good majority are and even the one's who aren't still stand in que to enjoy the fruits of reservation.
The funny thing about all this is that people of BC/OBC category in TN who have come under this reservation scheme from the early days and are now in a well to do situation still comlain that they are not getting enough.
As a normal human being, if someone calls me backward when I am in a good job and a good financial situation, I'll be at war with him/her. Whatever happened to self-esteem and integrity.

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RE:TN and politics
by kicks on Apr 05, 2007 08:25 PM  Permalink
Its a nice gesture to look at the brighter side of things...However the problem is a little more serious than you think. By creating such reservation you start eroding the very social justice and socio-economic indicators that were created.
Reservation in education based on religion is not correct in a country like india. As I said earlier we are very vulnerable to caste/religion.

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RE:TN and politics
by Sarnath Kannan on Apr 05, 2007 08:32 PM  Permalink

I dont know about UP.
But DMK, ADMK r all goons only.
Dayanidhi maran from DMK threatened Tata to sign some deal when he was the cabinet minister. He still is, I believe.
They have media under heir control,
They r all corrupt...



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RE:TN and politics
by Mahesh on Apr 05, 2007 08:14 PM  Permalink
These have nothing to do with the Governments that have been in power. It has been due to the people of the state (the large obedient and harworking workforce) that has brought about this change. Anyone who believes that all this happening because of the Government is living in fool's paradise.

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RE:TN and politics
by m on Apr 05, 2007 11:43 PM  Permalink
We are generously offering a separate state/nation to upper caste/anti reservation people who are less than 10% of India.
http://www.blogpoll.com/poll/view_Poll.php?type=java&poll_id=108166


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RE:TN and politics
by west on Apr 05, 2007 08:15 PM  Permalink
Grass always looks green on the other side!

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Reservation
by vijendra s on Apr 05, 2007 08:02 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Sir
If Karnanidhi has gone senile then if you vote out him then Amma will come TNs fate is ealed.All the political parties want the Indians remain poor so that they can rule for ever and ruin india
vijendra

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RE:Reservation
by m on Apr 05, 2007 09:43 PM  Permalink
Quite simple. Upper caste people are unwelcome in TN.

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RE:Reservation
by Mahesh on Apr 05, 2007 08:17 PM  Permalink
Well for us, the people of TN, the choice is between the deep sea and the devil. It is hard to find out who's who as the state works on the following widely accepted principle of 51% to 49% (ruling party to opposition party ratio) in looting the state. We have survived on Kollywood politics for donkey's years now.

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Political Game
by Rajasekhar Chowdary on Apr 05, 2007 07:45 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It seems the tamil politicians are gone mad. Off course they made the people also like that. With whose money this old man is giving the color TV%u2019s? I don%u2019t think whether Karunanidhi is aware what he is talking and what he is doing. It%u2019s the ill fate of Indians and tamilians where an 80 old guy is ruling a state with out senses. AP government already did the same for muslim reservations and failed to do so with the high/supreme court ruling. How can this guy think he can give separate reservations? So ultimately how much percentage of reservations these idiots want to give? What about encouraging the talent pool? Are these politicians trying to kill the talent and encouraging low educated people in government offices? We already know the quality of the government offices and their commitment. Due to these reservations only India is lagging behind all these years, still these old mindset politicians are not changing their way of thinking.
May God bless Tamilians and Indians.

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RE:Political Game
by Mahesh on Apr 05, 2007 08:19 PM  Permalink
Well, my friend, as I happen to be from the state - I must confess that we in the state had already realized that theyare mad. We have very little choice - giving turns to these buffoons based on the degree of madeness at the time of elections. bad luck for us.

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RE:Political Game
by m on Apr 05, 2007 11:43 PM  Permalink
We are generously offering a separate state/nation to upper caste/anti reservation people who are less than 10% of India.
http://www.blogpoll.com/poll/view_Poll.php?type=java&poll_id=108166


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All Doom and Gloom???
by Jackson on Apr 05, 2007 07:42 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

All we see is messages of gloom and how Kalaignar and the Dravidian Parties have screwed up Tamil Nadu.. Is that the reality?
Please let me know amongst Indian states where Tamil Nadu ranks with respect to
1)literacy?
2)FDI
3)IT Infrastructure
4)Economy
5)Higher Education
etc., you will then realize that views in Rediff are not all correct and that Dravidian parties have steered tamil nadu better than most Indian states. Most people here do not understand the concept of Social Justice.. that is equity and fairness to all .. not just the elite.

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Jackson on Apr 05, 2007 07:44 PM  Permalink
not that I support reservation.. but remember very poor people need the help. FCs must lobby harder and let the Politicans know that they should not be excluded. Most Newspapers and Media in TN are owned by FCs only.

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by kicks on Apr 05, 2007 07:47 PM  Permalink
I dont quite understand your message is. Do you support this move, then please let us know the reasons why?
I surely believe MK is not a fool to just blindly make this move. He's a master in manipulating people's minds...

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Jackson on Apr 05, 2007 07:49 PM  Permalink
my message is.. he is trying to bring equity in wealth and position among all castes. brahmins, Chettiars and some Mudaliars are very very well off in average (dont deny it). Many rural communities are very poorly off.. hence DMK's views must be seen in the context of FAIRNESS in society.. that is all communities reaching a level of self sufficiency.. it is a socialist government.

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RE:RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by west on Apr 05, 2007 07:54 PM  Permalink
Jackson - Everyone will support that move - if it's really meant to upbring the poor. This discussion wouldn't be there, if that's the real intention of the leaders.

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by west on Apr 05, 2007 07:48 PM  Permalink
Yeah??? all that development you mentioned is because of the people who already are in the service before their posts got filled in through reservation. Wait for another 30 years and then compare the results - because only then the decisions taken by the reserved posts will show their results.

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RE:RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Jackson on Apr 05, 2007 07:51 PM  Permalink
west.. DMK is in power for 30 years.. if they haven't screwed up in 30 years.. dont hold your breadth expecting them to screw up in the enxt 30 :-)

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by kicks on Apr 05, 2007 08:01 PM  Permalink
Jackson, I think it's your point of view is not right. It's true that the brahmins did create a lot of wealth till 2 decades back. Now wealth has been distributed equally all over TN. The point is dividing people based on religion/caste is not right considering the sensitivity of the issue. TN has already seen numerous caste issue over the years. Over the long run, life is going to get difficult. While we are looking to move forward aggresively with our economy, we are moving backwards with our local policies.
The believe in reservation but not by religion/caste. Reservation based on salary is one. There are numerous villages in india which have been igonred for decades. Reservation for people from such villages would promote education and interest in people. This can start from a school level.
These villages do not get the basic support from the government.
There's no point in providing reservation to only a set of people. Do you know how many FC's don't get their daily food?

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Mahesh on Apr 05, 2007 08:07 PM  Permalink
At last this is the day I was waiting for. I knew it had to happen soon, because the feel good factor has been going on for sometime. Actually it was the contrary to what was hapenning. I read quite a few of the messages in these columns and the MK bashing has started in all earnestness.

I had said the same things in the earlier blog on reservation during Friday / Saturday / Sunday and that there is more to this than meets the eye. How true I was? I had even quoted statistics only to be shooed off by "some blog pundits" who said that I was heartless and that I did not care for others. I had even created a blog calling it "Breaking News" (pun)asking people who could not get an admission because of the quota raj in TN to avail of the reservation system being introduced in the US at the behest of the Indian PM (based on the threat from MK).

The party has just begun. Have fun bashing each other up. That is the only solution to all the mess that is happening around us. As for Jackson saying that in 30 years nothing has been screwed, my prayer is, that he lives on for another 30 - 50 years to let reality hit hard. I am sure he willthen rue the day he wrote this message on the blog.

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RE:[object]
by west on Apr 05, 2007 07:57 PM  Permalink
I'm not excited to see what will happen after 30 years... because the result is obvious. I pity the one who cannot see the end result.

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by S Kiran on Apr 05, 2007 07:52 PM  Permalink
U seem to be a puppet of Karunanidhi. Whatever TN has achieved all these years is inspite of Dravidian parties. Imagine, what it would have been without these parties.

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by kumar on Apr 05, 2007 08:00 PM  Permalink
Mr Kiran

i dont think what you are saying is right. Every party has good and bad points about it. Some more than others. The dravidian parties in TN has actually done not only for TN but for India. They have brought TN to be one of the states with better socio economic indicators. They have done this without going communist. Secondly, it is because of the South, especially the dravidian parties that we have english so prominently in India hence giving us that great advantage in service industry around the world.

Thirdly, DMK and AIADMK have been voted back into power. This is despite what you say is bad politics. I am sure they are doing something right because unlike states like Bihar, they have achieved a lot.

Lastly, I am from UP. I would rather DMK run UP than the goons that have run UP since independence. If UP could be half of what TN is now, Indian economy would be better for it, due to the large population of my state.

Higher education, access to healthcare, etc, etc are great in TN.

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Jackson on Apr 05, 2007 08:02 PM  Permalink
thanks kumar.. that was what i was trying to say.. social justice and socio-economic indicators are more important than cheap caste points ..

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Jackson on Apr 05, 2007 07:57 PM  Permalink
Congress was in power in UP, Bihar and Madhya Pradesh..BJP was in power in many states..
what have they done Kiran.. before you start mouthing DMK off.. talk is cheap..
Social Justice is successful in Tamil Nadu. Contrary to what Brahmins say.. They are the elite in Tamil Nadu (most big businesses and media are owned by them). Same goes with other forward castes...

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RE:[object]
by west on Apr 05, 2007 08:01 PM  Permalink
Jackson - your statement:
They are the elite in Tamil Nadu (most big businesses and media are owned by them)

Conclusion:
that's why exactly why TN has some growth.

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Crazy Human on Apr 05, 2007 08:01 PM  Permalink
I would say you are wrong on all things to say TN is ahead of all Indian states.

1) Literacy it is Kerala which is ahead of you
2) FDI Gurgaon is ahead of you
3) IT Infrastrucure I would say Bangalore is ahead of Chennai
4) Economy Not sure about this
5) Higher Education doesnt exist in CHennai except for private colleges and IIT Chennai

Let me tell som drawbacks
1) TN has the highest female infanticide in India
2) TN is the only state in the entire country which support LTTE despite LTTE having killed Rajiv Gandhi.
3) Nobody from the rest of India wants to settle down in Chennai why is that so ?
4) OBC frequently commit violence against SC/ST in TN .
Whatever may be the basis for reservation just including caste is wrong and is just a political ploy money is also a factor now however much you deny it and rich OBCs dont deserver any reservation

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by west on Apr 05, 2007 08:21 PM  Permalink
Crazy Human - What Jackson's intention is not to compare with the forward states. You should compare all the above indicators with Bihar or UP. Am I right, Jackson??? Did I miss any other states?

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Crazy Human on Apr 05, 2007 08:27 PM  Permalink
there is no point in comparing with UP Bihar they are failed states the southern states which are more developed than northern states should start comparing with countries which are ahead of them.

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by kicks on Apr 05, 2007 08:29 PM  Permalink
well said dude...thats called improvement...

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Jackson on Apr 05, 2007 08:30 PM  Permalink
This is not about states .. this is about the abuse DMK/Kalaignar were getting.. then you need to talk on the basis of facts not on emotion. I wanted to point out that the regime or leaders are not failed leaders but have perfomred better than their peers.
It is easy to have a government for the rich and mighty.. but a really good government looks after the most needy and vulnerable .. So to evaluate DMK look at the bigger picture, social justice and stable socio-economic indicators..

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Crazy Human on Apr 05, 2007 08:39 PM  Permalink
also if OBCs were oppressed by UC as claimed by karunanidhi why are they doing the samething to SC/Sts and why doesnt Karnunanidhi remove reservation tag from all those OBC castes which are committing violence against SC/ST

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RE:[object]
by Crazy Human on Apr 05, 2007 08:34 PM  Permalink
dont make Karunanidhi sound as though he is some sort of statesmen no Indian politician has ever displayed any sorts of statesmenship. He is just driven by blind anti-brahminism maybe he suffered some slighty insult and so he has made it his mission to wipe out Brahmins.Just like how Hitler was, majority of German population hated Jews but that doesnt make them right

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by kicks on Apr 05, 2007 08:41 PM  Permalink
I think you are one of the victims of the "INDIA FEEL GOOD FACTOR"...Please understand our country is growing not because of state government policies but by reforms made by people like Manmohan singh, PC etc. TN would see similar growth no matter it's DMK running the show or AIADMK. One of the core reasons why chennai is improving is
1. Because it's a metro
2. It has some of the leading industries
3. accessiblity to ports
4. Colleges (manpower)
5. More cheaper than b'lore
Please look at the situation 20 yrs from now. Do you want a country divided by religion/caste, do you want you kids to grow up in this environment.

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by GWB on Apr 05, 2007 08:43 PM  Permalink
To Jackson
"Not at all.. it is an accepted fact that most MNCs see Chennai as a KNowledge Hub. " Soon they'll start seeing it as reservation hub

Btw, in my humble opinion, the IT sector developed to reach some strength primarily coz the politicians weren't savvy enough to understand the potential it offered. The Commies did not jump in with union crap and the other sore losers did not fck the then fledgling industry with caste/ religion/ language based reservation crap...
The true effects of the great policy will be felt once the leader touches jobs in the pvt sector. In his present frenzy, i don't see the day is too far.

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RE:[object]
by Crazy Human on Apr 05, 2007 08:46 PM  Permalink
yeah true if politicians were involved earlier than today our IT industry would have been a stillborn baby. The day if not far off when countries like Vietnam,China will give us hard competition

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Jackson on Apr 05, 2007 08:26 PM  Permalink
Not at all.. it is an accepted fact that most MNCs see Chennai as a KNowledge Hub. Also socio-economic indicators are beetter for TN than many other states. FDI - TN attracts more than anticipated. TN is a leader in most factors including Law and Order.. so how can rediff readers come and abuse DMK/Kalaignar like this? Is it fair or moral?
On what basis are you doing this?

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by west on Apr 05, 2007 08:40 PM  Permalink
Yes - most of the MNCs who are in Chennai are coming there because they know how much karunanidhi is playing foolish. Obviously, any one will choose a fool to win for himself!

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Crazy Human on Apr 05, 2007 08:31 PM  Permalink
The mutual interaction of various philosophies, schools of thought, and religious ideologies in the state has had some effect, but by and large Tamil Nadu has the reputation of being more xenophobic than other states in India. Every now and then Tamil extremist demonstrations are held to reinforce the alleged superiority of Tamil. Women do not enjoy the same level of respect and protection compared to neighbouring Kerala. Tamil Nadu has one of the highest incidences of female infanticide and foeticide in India, due to the fact that a girl child is viewed as a liability resulting from poor female social standing

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Jackson on Apr 05, 2007 08:05 PM  Permalink
i said in comparison to other states ..
be honest in every aspect it is in top 5..
so it cant be a failed state can it?

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by kicks on Apr 05, 2007 08:06 PM  Permalink
Jackson, I think it's your point of view is not right. It's true that the brahmins did create a lot of wealth till 2 decades back. Now wealth has been distributed equally all over TN. The point is dividing people based on religion/caste is not right considering the sensitivity of the issue. TN has already seen numerous caste issue over the years. Over the long run, life is going to get difficult. While we are looking to move forward aggresively with our economy, we are moving backwards with our local policies.
The believe in reservation but not by religion/caste. Reservation based on salary is one. There are numerous villages in india which have been igonred for decades. Reservation for people from such villages would promote education and interest in people. This can start from a school level.
These villages do not get the basic support from the government.
There's no point in providing reservation to only a set of people. Do you know how many FC's don't get their daily food?


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RE:[object]
by kicks on Apr 05, 2007 08:08 PM  Permalink
Another point to add...Please remember a politician like MK can survive only when the people are divided. The best way to divide a community is by religion/caste. we are so vulnerable to these

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Crazy Human on Apr 05, 2007 08:10 PM  Permalink
why are you comparing to India if you have so much of pride over TN you should compare with some foreign state like Israel which has the same population like you just check where is Israel and where is TN/India, India is in a very poor state in all the factors, so TN may happen to better off than the northen states that is not a great deal to be proud about, India ranks right at the bottom.Israel was created by scracth from 1947 and look where it
is now.
Also what about corruption is it less or more I guess it is the same as any other part in India.

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by ruzo on Apr 05, 2007 08:39 PM  Permalink
Reservation based on caste and religion totally sucks! God save my land.
Clarification:TN does NOT SUPPORT LTTE. I think you misled by statements made by some political knuckleheads.

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RE:All Doom and Gloom???
by Crazy Human on Apr 05, 2007 08:44 PM  Permalink
the fact some of the castes have suffered a lot but also it is true that in TN brahmins have been made a scapegoat for all the caste problems. So there has to be reservations for people who have been denied access to education. But it is equally true that money also plays a big role today and to just say that if you belong to so and so caste you are backward is plain wrong. You need to consider all factors and then give reservations, not just caste alone. This is not going to happen in TN atleast till Karunanidhi lives I have a bit more hope towards Dayanidhi.

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TN to provide separate reservation for Muslims, Christians
by S Kiran on Apr 05, 2007 07:23 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I observe that most people here are targetting the old man Karunanidhi, who is not in his senses and does not know what he is doing.

He has not encroached upon H1B visas and work permits issued by other countries. If he continues to live for a few more years, he will make a law that any country that has a consulate in Chennai should follow reservation.

People of TN, wake up. He is not benefiting anybody by these reservations. He is only dividing people and creating/strengthening this vote banks.

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RE:TN to provide separate reservation for Muslims, Christians
by kicks on Apr 05, 2007 07:34 PM  Permalink
Kiran, MK is a puppet, the man is 82 yrs old and has problems remembering his name most of the time. He's the CM because of his name, no one else in DMK has the charisma, these ideas come from his family who are pretty much running the state.
I'm from TN and let me tell you this, the state has been divided big time. The people here have been taken for a ride big time. If there's something that sucks in TN, it's the politics. There's caste everywhere, people like ramadass, MK & family, until these guys are there you cannot expect a change.
There's no other government other than DMK & AIADMK over the last 2 decades. When governement changes, people decide to switch too...so it's a game and always a win-win for many people...
These people must be dragged down the streets and shot in public.

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RE:TN to provide separate reservation for Muslims, Christians
by kumar on Apr 05, 2007 08:02 PM  Permalink
its because the DMK is in power that there is less lawlessness in TN and hence, people like you cannot drag others onto the streets and shoot them.

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RE:TN to provide separate reservation for Muslims, Christians
by Crazy Human on Apr 05, 2007 08:21 PM  Permalink
obviously since the party of goons is in power they have no need to break the law. Just like how BJP used to claim there were less riots when they were in power


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RE:TN to provide separate reservation for Muslims, Christians
by m on Apr 05, 2007 09:44 PM  Permalink
Quite simple. Upper caste people are unwelcome in TN.

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Reservation - a social cause
by Nott on Apr 05, 2007 07:20 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

These politicians have really depressed and got sheer bad name to Mr B.R Ambdedkar who defined the constitution. The way by which it goes I feel it is not touching/reaching the people who need it. Still we have poor villages/Not much improvements done for the upfliftment of backward classes in remote areas. Had the development was done across the board India would have gone way ahead of many countries by now.
These Use lesse politicians fit for nothing use this Reservation for their vote politics.
Reservation has to be given for those who are socially/economically deprived for centuries because of the caste/relogious practices that were followed in INDIA.
But unfortunately it is not taken in right spirit.
And Now the DMK govt further detiorates the situation.


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RE:Reservation - a social cause
by west on Apr 05, 2007 07:44 PM  Permalink
if ambedkar is to live today - i sure he would have started a movement for reservations to skilled and talented class in the society.

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RE:Reservation - a social cause
by m on Apr 05, 2007 09:44 PM  Permalink
Quite simple. Upper caste people are unwelcome in TN.

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