Hi Friends! In this age of globalization,organizations are expanding beyond countries,the workforce getting global. Its a blow if these countries.. try to reserve opportunities for sections of people. Economies are opening up/liberalizing and reservations for the local industries and people are vanishing; increasingly organizations are being given free hand to function as per business needs. When forced for reservations and not merits these would prefer to shift their investments to places where they can get cheaper better educated and with less restrictions.
In the age of capitalization capital is the contribution to the development, when one does contribute money another would contribute mind and yet others would contribute labour. The beginning of the industries i.e.capital would be hampered by reservations. Capitalists would like to get the best possible in terms of merit and facilities and restrictions.
Our politicians may fan divisions in the public for their vote bank theories, but are they contributing to nation?????. Would these people reserv PM/President/ministers.. treatment to ST doctors etc? WORLD WONT RESERVE ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIA.Survival of fittest prevail
Hi Friends! In this age of globalization,organizations are expanding beyond countries,the workforce getting global. Its a blow if these countries.. try to reserve opportunities for sections of people. Economies are opening up/liberalizing and reservations for the local industries and people are vanishing; increasingly organizations are being given free hand to function as per business needs. When forced for reservations and not merits these would prefer to shift their investments to places where they can get cheaper better educated and with less restrictions.
In the age of capitalization capital is the contribution to the development, when one does contribute money another would contribute mind and yet others would contribute labour. The beginning of the industries i.e.capital would be hampered by reservations. Capitalists would like to get the best possible in terms of merit and facilities and restrictions.
Our politicians may fan divisions in the public for their vote bank theories, but are they contributing to nation?????. Would these people reserv PM/President/ministers.. treatment to ST doctors etc? WORLD WONT RESERVE ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIA.Survival of fittest prevail
Dear friend, 1)In TN, reservation is decided by vote bank politics, not real concern for social justice. 2)MK is seeking the abolition of creamy layer concept.If they have been the major beneficiaries of reservations, Why? 3)How does the performance of the "uplifted" (M)BC's from TN in all India exams like IIT/GATE/CAT compare with BCs from other states or Tamilian BCs settled in other states? The ids/caste of candidate is not revealed to the evaluator. So favouritism is out. 4)Decline in the standards of education is apparent,but these zealots will play dumb. Can you tell me how many castes have slid from BC to MBC ? TN is the only state to have produced two nobel laureates in Physics and it doesn't recognise them. Neither does it recognise Ramanujan. Augurs well for the state. May be 70% reservations in Nobel prize is neccessary!Social justice? Kerala and WB are way ahead. for reservation in TN are only for keeping the brahmins out. Brahmins in IT, lets reserve some seats for us, however unqualified we may be, for we become kings by just sitting on the throne. My sympathies for the lay tamilian who is far more reasonable and humane than his politicians!
The fact that the anti-quota protests look stronger only proves that the minority Upper Caste enjoys much of the higher positions in the country. Backward Castes should be given a chance and reservations are the only way to do it. Else there will be social inequality.
RE:BCs deserve reservations
by arun on May 31, 2006 03:12 PM Permalink
If thats the case ..then since there were no protests in Tamuil Nadu Reservation should be removed
The entire policy of reservation was evaluated by the British in the Madras Presidency way back in 1921 or so when they started the Justice party to divide the Hindu community by castes and demand separate quota for Non-Brahmins (OBC), SC&ST & Minority religon etc.
This was because because the only occupation left for the Brahmins at that time was clerical work and they got jobs in the British government.
The Chettiyars , Mudaliars and other Royal people felt it below their diginity that they have to go through a "Brahmin" for any government work.
So under the bogey of "Brahmin Domination" they promoted the "Justice Party" which was to protect thier "Self Respect"
This was ably assisted by the British beacause these Brahmins were also in the forefront of freedom struggle. They were killing two birds with one stone.
The poor Brahmins were toremented by the British then and the Dravida parties now by the same bogey of "Brahmin Domination".
The concept of "Suppression & Oppression" of the OBC SC ST by the Brahmins is a LIE. This has to be exposed first. The real fact is OBC Suppresses & Oppresses SC & ST and they put the blame on the "Brahmin" for all the evil.
RE:Dravida Politics continues what the British started - Divide & Rule
by george on May 31, 2006 01:28 AM Permalink
well said mani, brahmins are being made to pay for others opressions through centuries. a commmunity that cannot kill because they cosider that to be sin, what opression can they do? it is classical case of tom being made to pay for dicks fault. the real story is that till mid nineteenth century there was not much to be shared,so cumbersome and strainful job of reading scriptures was left to brahmins and others were content in enjoying their life by ruling through muscle power.
only after mid nineteenth century,when education became indispensable to progress in life did these people awake and started raising boegy of "self respect".Till that time they were happy enjoying luxuriesof life through muscle power. since brahmins were holding position in govt jobs,the only way to get rid of them and to grab their jobs was to cook up stories which could potray them as demons and thus get rid of them.
the dravidian parties did that job well and potrayed brahmins in negative light and grabbed their only livehood. as brahmins were in minority always,just 1 %,i would like to ask these dravidian leaders that what prompted their ancestors to be suppressed for centuries????
RE:Dravida Politics continues what the British started - Divide & Rule
by george on May 31, 2006 01:55 AM Permalink
so mani this is just bumkum shit that is being sold.
in india to progress means to snatch .means for progress do not matter. it is the progress that matters.so brahmins need to understand this and live life accordingly. i will even suggest conversion to most humane religion of christianity by all upper castes or may be to agressive religion of islam. brahmins should not put themselves to bear the unnecessary load of bumkum bull shit stories.
This is India ------of scoundrels, for scoundrels, by scoundrels------
so to survive, u have to behave like scoundrels.....
RE:Dravida Politics continues what the British started - Divide & Rule
by ravi on Jun 02, 2007 06:07 PM Permalink
vey well said, conversion to christianity :- a religion that preaches love and sacrifice is a good idea for us tormented indians
There seems to be a consesnsus here that Brahmins are socially forawrd and others backward. Is this presumption correct? Look around you. How many Brahmins wield power? How many backward class people do (especially Yadavs in the context of North India). You'll find that Brahmins are the most non-violent and peaceful group. They don't even arouse respect because of their poverty. They don't arouse fear because of their powerlessness. And you call them socially forward?
most of the castes in TN except for brahmins and few others come in the OBC, MBC bracket. Also if you analyse most of the land, wealth and political power is within these castes only. No wonder these people devise ways and means to further their interests by whatever is the means. It is the classic case of majority (of the hindus) oppressing the minority among them.
most of the castes in TN except for brahmins and few others come in the OBC, MBC bracket. Also if you analyse most of the land, wealth and political power is within these castes only. No wonder these people devise ways and means to further their interests by whatever is the means. It is the classic case of majority (of the hindus) oppressing the minority among them.
Reservation based on past perceived or real injustice is like starving the child because the father was obese. The upperclass represented by the brahmin and other communities migrated out of Tamil Nadu during the last one hundred twenty years. Today, the upperclass in Tamil Nadu is a minority community with only the parents staying there. The cream of the population has emigrated within India and abroad- a good portion for IT Industry. If a state consciously decides that a segment of its population should face reverse discrimination some would perish, the balance would survive. The Government has decided that we brahmins and other upper class should be punished for some past sins. So be it.Brahmins have survived- much like India over the centuries- and would continue to survive, but their contribution would be elsewhere.
