Rediff is shamelessly allowing another intellectual foreign invasion & a sure partition of this country by a foreigner.His articles are highly infalamtory. This guy's fans are the ones who say that Sonia Gandhi should not be PM or any thing else 'cause she is foreign born.But when it suits them they might even make this guy contest for the PM's post.This is called "Upper Caste Hypocrisy".Shame on you UPC's & OUPC's.
RE:Upper caste hypocrisy
by param on Jul 05, 2006 11:21 AM Permalink
Kalai Selvan, I am assuming you are Tamil. I wonder if you support the LTTE. The Sinhalese majority is systematically excluding Tamils from education and official posts and private sector employment. Even though Tamils were successful and hard working. So if you are supporting them, and encouraging them to form separate homeland and endorsing parties like DMK, why are you so concerned about the partition of India? Aren't the same DMK etc systematically excluding the current generation of upper castes in Tamil Nadu, and now advocate it for North India also?
Where is your so called concern of partition of India, or are you saying upper castes should also form a group like LTTE in India or join up with Naxalites? Do you support Sinhala goverment of Sri Lanka for excluding Tamils saying they are outsiders? Just as the partition of Sri Lanka can happen, for the same reason, exclusionary policies can have a very negative impact in India.
Francois Gautier says that only 3% of the rediff readers oppossed his articles.So the majority are with him ! This is funny.Does'nt he know, the backward classes have better ways of spending their time.They have no time for nuts like Gautier. If you want real backward class opinion,go to the backward classes & get their opinion.Don't base your opinion on the feed back from a forward class web site.
RE:Gautier is nuts!
by Tamilselvan on Aug 31, 2006 02:11 AM Permalink
I appreciate Mr. F.Gautier Mr. Rajapandian as per your wish may all the 100% rediff readers oppose Mr. F.Gautier but what is the use, I am also from a backword community of tamilnadu (nadar) who supports his view that We need an India based on merit, not on caste because my grand father benefited from reservation and become an successful civil servant and then my father now its me?, after enjoying the benefit of reservation policy for two generation I can also enjoy the same benefit, this makes the whole reservation system laughable, because now my family is very rich affluent respected in society still I will get the benefit means the reservation system is now outdated we have to modify it, we can keep this reservation up to certain percentage on the basic of monetary status which covers all the section of society, but major potion of the seats should go to merit students so that the real talent is not oppressed.
RE:Gautier is nuts!
by srivastav on Jul 05, 2006 10:15 AM Permalink
Raja Pandian, your ancestors were probably rulers of Tamil Nadu. You may be of the opinion that maybe Tamil Nadu should have not joined the Indian Union. And ultimately you may be right. I think people in general do not like being ruled by others, this is true throughout history and human beings genes have not changed. I can agree that maybe North Indian muslims first and then the British/South Indian brahmin combine later on may have ruled over Tamils to their dislike.
I am North Indian Brahmin, and I am sure something similar has happened in North, and history is never forgotten. The saying by Mahatma Gandhi goes, an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth makes the whole world blind and toothless. So, I think we should all stop fighting and make our own independent futures in separate countries without thinking over ruling over others. We should aim to have friendly relations as neighboring countries though. One can never keep together by force what is frractured. No glue will really work.
A famous statician once said that "Statistics is lies & more lies".Gautier brings out laughable statistics,like brahmins clean toilets & OUC's are 35% & are a real big vote bank. Nowadays we all read Gautier's articles for its HUMOUR & nothing else. This guy is becoming a BIG JOKER. Gautier,go & watch the world cup man where Zidaine & Henry, the so called french out-casts,are bringing glory to your country & you white aryans are shamlessly lapping it up !!
3 cheers for Gautier
by binu on Jul 04, 2006 06:42 PM Permalink
dear ms. sexy kaveri who the hell are u to give opinion about anyone who is joker or not. Mr.Gautier i just want to say 2 or 3 things.actually i read your all the articles on this issue.and all are excellent.u now in INDIA there is a liberty of opinion.u can say and write any damn shit thing.what i feel u r more experinced than me but dont be demortalised.i will tell you one story 'regarding the same'when i was in college there was an union that is called 'chhend student assosciation'this assosciation for thos who is outsider in college.once there was an election.after election our former student president 'Mr.NAUSHAD KHAN' told us if u rgoing to do something gud always there is someone who will oppose you but you always look on those who is following you.so,the mortal of story is always look forward dont be demortalised keep writing.B'coz if someone are crtisizing so there are lot who is following your articles and saying well said MR.GAUTIER KEEP IT UP. wish u best of writing.
RE:Gautier is a joker .
by srivastav on Jul 05, 2006 10:06 AM Permalink
I think all these articles, pro, anti caste etc are all a waste of time. So much energy and hatred and people spending time plotting downfall of others can be used more productively elsewhere. I am an Indian at heart, and used to believe that things will get better. I feel the hatreds have now become too entrenched and the blame game will only continue until violence starts breaking out. I am a Brahmin, and while I do feel sorry for the Dalits, the hatred is now between languages, religions, ethnicities like Aryan/Dravid theories and northeast Chinese people and castes. India was never a single nation anytime in the past, even during the Mughal era, and trying to impose by force, from any side whether right or wrong will never work in the end.
If the country is split up now in some fashion, everyone can forget about figting each other and politicians will have to concentrate on basic infrastrucute of society and bulidng up the nation. Maybe that will end up being the best solution of all.
It is known fact that Brahmins are the only group other than muslims that have a all india presence and the their population is around 6 to 10 percent. The OBC population is like a inflated balloon..pick a hole and it will blow up and loose up its steam..The question now is who actually is a OBC ? Per Mandal Marathas in maharastra(they used to rule once upona time), lingayats, vokkilagas, jats, patels, reddys etc are considered OBC even though they never faced social discrimination of any kind and always occupied the tenants of power in all spheares..take away these castes and automatically what you is a motley group of BC who are numerically smallers. Also a large subsect of the lower castes BC integrate with the SC making this differentation much difficult. It is time for the Brahmins and other Upper caste to unite and show their power...but alas, most of the UC/Brahmins are rich and are least interested in political power..
RE:Interesting
by xyza12 on Jul 04, 2006 10:10 PM Permalink
So if we can just back the Marathas and the Patels back to the non-OBC fold (and convince them why they ar ebing used by the pseudo-OBCs), we will be back to strength!
RE:Interesting
by Raj on Dec 01, 2006 07:03 PM Permalink
What an absolute loser and pessimist. Cleans yourself of such negative thoughts.. Perform some meditation/yoga course and think positive.
Francois Gautier is being over exposed by rediff & we're sick of it.This guy claims that the preseent govt.is dividing the country but it is HE who is keeping this 'caste & religion' wound raw & burning all the time.With such 5th columnists here God save our Country.
RE:Gautier is sickening.
by srivastav on Jul 05, 2006 09:56 AM Permalink
I think India as a single nation is an unworkable concept. Just look at Soviet Union, it collapsed into multiple states based on different ethnicities and languages and religions etc. I think everyone has to acknowledge that positions and opinions on everything from language and caste have only hardened and not diminished in the last 60 years. Everywhere you see states like Uttaranchal, Jharkand, Chattisgard, Jammu, Assam, Telengana demand in AP, Darjeeling in W. Bengal, Belgaum in Karnataka, Sourashtra in Gujarat, Mewar land in North Rajasthan, North Kerala demand in Kerala, north/south TN etc divisions or demands happening. I am not optimistic that in the next 60 years India will remain a unified country. Maybe best to partition it before civil war erupts.
RE:VP Singh
by Prashanth on Jul 05, 2006 07:30 PM Permalink
Mr sgpal Agreed that you will get Cast based benifits and certificate, because your forefathers were opressed.Dont you feel your future generations needs opression since based on your logic, if u opress others u need to be oppressed!? Comeon man, fight for the equality not for reservation.And people go to Private tution if they dont get quality education and if have money, irrespective of caste and they go to tution because the quality of education in Scholls/college is that great. U fight for this and not for RESERVATION.What u need is Social justice and Equality and not the CRUTHCES!
RE:VP Singh
by sgpal on Jul 05, 2006 11:56 AM Permalink
Repeated assertions of the pro reservationists .Please do think of hungry ones.We are like that because we were oppressed for thousands of years. we need reservation because the FCs and their fore fathers suppressed us.We need caste certificate at any cost because we were suppressed for a long time! Please for god's sake and Ambedkar's sake start using your brains and work hard.Please dont tell me that all the Fcs are rich and well fed and so are able to study well.All fcs attend private tution and so are able to score better in these exams.there is nothing called merit! How meritless these thoughts are can be seen and perceived by any one with half a neurone but not by our caste certificate holders.
the subject of is a very relative one those who didnot eat one square meal a day cannot fight this academic diatribe. the problem of merit caste and everything else is because we have for centuries treated the lower castes and backwards as someone who gets the brickbats and filth rightfully. we need to cleanse our minds of the caste then only can think of an equitable socoety. as for as merit is concerned the country is being ruled for the last 50 years by so called uppercaste who failed to bring country in the top league what about their merit. what about the meritorios scoundrels selling the country. give all these caste some time (compared to thousand years of punishment) they will rise to the levels wanted.
I sincerely appreciate you addressing all the issues and not looking at one perspective be it OC OUC OBC SC OR ST or whatever other acronym that has been created for us humans in India.I still though wonder why we need this caste system.Hope you would address that in the later articles.To those of us who are screaming for or against, based on caste or religion or any other criteria,isnt it time to WAKE UP!!Lets drop our dogma of silly things.I understand when people comment for or against that they went through a lot of crap.But do we want to keep continuing it either ways.What is stopping us to be one unified people.Rise o Brother and Sisters as one people!!By the way i am no fan of politicians our necessary evil.This evil can be set right by showing them how its we indians who get them to where they are.Create a new party that stands for India, Hindustan, Bharat!!not for anything else.
I sincerely appreciate you addressing all the issues and not looking at one perspective be it OC OUC OBC SC OR ST or whatever other acronym that has been created for us humans in India.I still though wonder why we need this caste system.Hope you would address that in the later articles.To those of us who are screaming for or against, based on caste or religion or any other criteria,isnt it time to WAKE UP!!Lets drop our dogma of silly things.I understand when people comment for or against that they went through a lot of crap.But do we want to keep continuing it either ways.What is stopping us to be one unified people.Rise o Brother and Sisters as one people!!By the way i am no fan of politicians our necessary evil.This evil can be set right by showing them how its we indians who get them to where they are.Create a new party that stands for India, Hindustan, Bharat!!not for anything else.
