RE:Downtrodden?
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:51 PM Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society. Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.
RE:coments
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:51 PM Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society. Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.
So it seems reservations hardly helped Dalits - because now after getting reservations and more reservations; they are still being led to destroy public property to vent their emotions. The author contradicts himself serveral times...on one hand he says Dalits are now having their newspapers, blogs etc, on the other he says the news media did not highlight the brutal incident. If you have channels to spread the word, why are you concerned that the mainstream media did not play the story? By taking the matter to the UN...they have also shown themselves to be unpatriotic; should we also take the matter of destruction of public property to the UN? Should UN be runnin India? It is claimed by the author that a large percentage Dalits are now educated and they know their rights - thats very very good - but do they also know what their responsibilities are? The author does not seem to understand that without responsibility there is no freedom. What responsibility have the Dalits and their leadership shown? Instead of finding excuses for destruction...why does this author not start a company and employ Dalits? 'cause Talk is Cheap.
Retro bias
by Arpan on Dec 07, 2006 04:51 PM Permalink
I can understand Dalits burning trains. I can understand reservations being doled out like sweets. I can understand politicians acting like all they wanted was the welfare of people while in fact filling their pockets. What I cannot comprehend is the sentence : "Let a Brahmin do the dirty work".
I am a brahmin. I am from the upper caste. I am 21 years old. And I have never ever held any kind of prejudice in my mind against the so called lower castes.
Who gives the author the right to hand out justice to Brahmins? I once read an article in a famous daily by some communist leader who maintained that Hindu Brahmins should never be forgiven for their deeds. My question is : Which demographic section of the society is free from its own skeleton in the cupboard? Is it the Muslims, who have subjugated the native Hindus for a thousand years? Or the Rajputs, who partnered with the British? Or the communists, who have never ever took a stance that would appeal to a logical mind? The need is not to hand out verdicts. We cannot look at the past to make our future. If the Dalits want to come out of their dark age, it is themselves who have to light the lamp.
This article is aimed at instigating the Dalits against another community. I totally agree that people must not to lowly jobs. But how can a person even tell that another 'high-caste' Brahmin must do the job. This is clearly the propaganda of the writer to portray some communities as the root of all evil. A stronger country can only be built only if all the people involved contribute to its growth. Sadly the article aims to drive a wedge between communities and tries to spread hatred for some castes. It never speaks about any progressive steps that may actually help the oppressed. Casteist article ... utterly useless.
RE:Dalit Bias
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:52 PM Permalink
How many inter-caste or inter-religious marriages are there in your family?
Hi, Dalit's r very much aware of the rights and fithing for them. This is a good development. The persons who comitted those killings in maharshtra should be hanged. The case should be handed out to a fast track court. But the anger that was shown for Kanpur incident on mumbais streets was too much. It seemed liked a organized gang was doing it. Untouchability is still practised in rural areas. So more efforts of dalit leaders hould be rural. In cities if u have money there is no untouchability. Yes dalit youths suffer from want of capital, but one generation can get get educated and work. Iam sure in the coming years we will see a dalit billionaire. But this can only be acheived with hard work. There is no short cut for this.
RE:Dalit movement
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:53 PM Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society. Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.
RE:Dont use the word dalit now....!!!
by mahen on Dec 08, 2006 06:02 PM Permalink
Shirish agreed ... We no more dalit .... may be schedule caste ... but higher class
RE:Dont use the word dalit now....!!!
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:54 PM Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society. Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.
After so many observations, talks and debates, I came on point that at least in India people do not speak, only caste speaks!!!! Why all people do not react when injustice happened to someone? Why first he/she looks thier own caste before giving reaction? We have made our vision very small,we became insensitive and selfish which think only within their caste/religion etc. Besides that we are thinking India will become developed and happier country............
RE:Why only Dalits?
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:55 PM Permalink
How many inter-caste or inter-religious marriages are there in your family?
The columns says '..Dalits youths are struggling for an identity'. What identity - a Dalit identity? Or an over-arching Indian identity? If they want to belong to a truly casteless society, then any attempt at perpetuating a 'Dalit identity' makes them guilty of perpetuating casteism, and the resultant discrimination.
RE:Dalit movement is more intense
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:55 PM Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society. Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.
I am very surprised with the remarks of Mr. Dangle and Mr. Yagnik.
By so saying that Dalit's donot get jobs, I wonder what is the so called reservation all about. The whole of Indian Administration and their policies and actions are directed towards protecting Backward castes incl SCs and STs, by all means and in every resepct at the cost of the Forward communities.
Further, it is said that police misbehave while Dalits are on a rally and such a misbehaviour is not seen when RSS or BJP takes out a rally. This is very immature observation. What sort of comparisions are these?
Moreover, this gentleman says that Dalit's now can confidently decline dirty jobs. What is a dirty job? and why should there be any community reference here?
Given this maturity levels, no matter what ever extent to which the Forward communities sacrifice their right for equal opportunities, these immature leaders will never allow this to be understood.
I pity the very Dalit community, who truly donot have the right leadership to give them the correct approach to life and are thouroughly a misguided lot.
