Well, it is disheartenging to know to come to know that one's family member is detained in a foreign country, & that too on suspicion of being a terrorist. But not all muslims are terrorists. But those muslims who don't oppose (either verbally or in action) terrorism are indireclty supporting the jihadists. So they are in a way being a source of moral support for these so called islamic terrorists. If you don't want your community to be labelled as terrorists, openly condemn these jihadists (wahabism promoted by the Saudi King). They will get the message that the muslims of the world don't want jihad/terror. So unless you don't condemn these islamic terrorists, you would be taken as siding (being) with them. Like Geroge Bush says "You are with us or you are against us. There is no inbetween". So you have to be on the side of the terrorists or on the side of the innocent people. If you are on the side of the innocent people, you have to condemn the terrorist's actions. Frankly, tell me how many muslims condemn the islamic terrorist's actions? Recently I even read that the Indian muslims don't want to sing Vande Mataram. They are in turn motivating the terrorists & siding with them.
RE:Ask the Saudi King to stop sponsoring terrorism
by Prashanth on Aug 27, 2006 01:31 AM Permalink
>>Recently I even read that the Indian muslims don't want to sing Vande Mataram. They are in turn motivating the terrorists & siding with them.
U r right, 9/11 is not Anti Islamic, 7/11 is not anti islamic, Some people in Tamil Nadu celebrate Independece day on 14-AUG which is legal, but Vande Mataram is Anti Islamic!...And our Arjun Singh, Manmohan Singh, DMK,PMK are all okay with it and they evn appreciate this!
Its sad to have such occurence in Dutch city. Terroorism is a menace all over the world, particularly Islamic terrorism. Is there any measure to create awareness on this trend??? Can govt. help this stop happening???
Initiative must come from the Muslim community itself. They covertly support such acts and overtly speak out the injustice meted out to them...Muslims are the victims of their own belief systems. Why not they condemn and detest such people within their communities. Why set bad precedence for other Asians or Indian to face such detentions.....
what io have to say is these people are stupid and try to be over smart. they should be punish for not switching off their mobiles and using toilet when the plane is just taking off. its been told before the plane take off that all cell phone to be swirch off and no use of lavotary when its takinf off or landing an dwhen ever there is such instruiction.
these people are worse then terrorist. first they behave as a terrorist by doing these sort of thing and then will give it some religion victim looks.
stupid person worse then terrorist that what i have to say
I travel a lot in South East Asia and Middle East and in adverently you bump into someone from India.
We Indians have not learnt to adapt to the outside culture and habits. For example, i was once travelling by Thai Airways from Delhi to Bangkok and i could see a bunch of people from Northern India, blocking the passageway and playing "cards" as if they were travelling om Rajdhani express...that mentality of "i have paid for the ticket, i'll do whatever i want" should change.
The passengers on that flight NW042 who were not listening to the airstewardess deserved to be handcuffed..i mean if they are so adamant and their hand phones are so precious, they should travel by boat..becasue they are risking the life of all passengers on board..there is a good reason why electronics should not be switched on board..These people should have been thrashed and beaten...i am sure they will never repeat such incident again,,leave alone flying again!!!!!
If a group of air passngers will behave in a manner,which is not civilised and trust worthy,not listening to crews,disturbing other passengers,they must be punished.And it was done though in a grand manner.
It is a shame when we provide motive to this.It is equally horryfying to find from their family members that they are frequent travellers.In this case the punishment should be harsh.
Dear Sirs, your relatives are not terrorists, and just because they are big business magnets doesnt mean that they can just get away without listening to the instructions of the crew. As a frequent international traveller I have seen with my own eyes such non sense behaviour from my fellow countrymen. Eventhough a whole lotta people suffered due to the nuisance caused by a group of 12, its high time, that the airlines put down such nonsense behaviour with iron hand. I have even seen passengers demanding they be served beer on a flight lasting not more than 40 minutes and pick up fight with the cabin crew. There is no point in complaining about racial discrimination unless our race of people start behaving themselves on the flight atleast in international routes. God save India.
The frustration among the Muslim community is understandable. Many largely innocent people bear the brunt of a small section of people who are misguided to become terrorist. But I think that the same community should start thinking rationally as to why all this is happening and try to gather some confidence of the people who are not-so-assured about their reactions even to some very obvious things. Here are some illustrations. The Muslim community should realise that when they take pride in calling themselves Indians, they should not heed to anybody's anti-nationalist guidelines. Example would be the Vande-Mataram Fatwa episode. They should understand that actions of some people of the community tend to mark the general attributes for the whole community. Just think that as you consider the actions of George W. Bush as anti-muslims and share a sense of difference with the Western people, similarly, for the actions of terrorists, coming largely from the sections of your community are enough to make others apprehensive of your pausible conduct. Another thing is that, if the people who were interrogated often travelled abroad, why did they not heed to instructions fm the crew?
I can understand the concerns about the family members and what they are going through but you can't entirely blame the crew for doing what they did. We INDIAN need to learn to behave properly if we do not follow Crew instruction, Harasse them, use the toilet when told not to use then what do you think they should do ?? With so much of tension already going on with the terrorist taking every possible opportunity to create a havoc. This behaviour is widely known with INDIANs on the the INDIAN sectors not only by these but some educated people. I have see this happening several times on the flight and it puts me to shame when I am sitting next to an non INDIAN. I think people have to learn to behave themselves and not act as an uneducated citizen. Look who is suffering for it ???
Its easy to blame the anti-terrorist laws. I believe that without racially profiling people,its almost impossible to find out the culprits.Don't tell me that the 11 people caught by Briain police was nothing to do with racial profiling.Its just impossible to trace out the culprits.
I do not understand if someone faces problems and attention by wearing typical Muslim dress like beard,why can't these people do away with them ??
Firstly, they were not arrested for their beards, and secondly they were not arrested because they were mulsims. YOUR relatives were misbehaving on the flight and doing things they weren't supposed to. In the process they caused the flight to be escorted by F-16s, delaying the flight for several other people. So don't try add religious colour to the story, your relatives were arrested because they were acting like terrorists and they should be penalised for not listening to the flight instructions and bringing shame to the country and community.
