no matter what we like dislike or hate about our fellow citizens and country men. it is always preferable to solve our problems ourselves. today you let a modi be humiliated by us tommorrow it will be u. probably our history teachers are not doing good jobs in telling us what happened 250 years back and how we suffered 200 years for that mistake. if repeat mistakes it might be u who would suffer, but if a country repeats history because of you many innocent ones would suffer. beware hum jobhi hai pehlae hindustani hai. manoj
A nice article describing inner story of the visa denial saga.
A lot of articles have been written regarding this after the story broke out. Many people are diagnosing and trying to find out "Why it happend", "Whose hand is there" etc etc. But now the time has come, we should think about "What next".
In mu opinion, India must retaliate this inhuman and unjustified action of the US against India.
The writer assumes that the so called secularist brigade cajoled and coaxed the US government into taking this decision - and then proceeds to fight them without proving his first premise...
Well, you find similar tactics used by all fundoo sympathisers. It may be useful if he could rather focus on the biggest threat to India right now - that of fundamentalist chauvinism rather than crying hoarse over the "hurt pride" of India.
The US may have taken this decision for a lot of reasons - one of which may be to assuage the muslims world over that it is against fundamentalists and not Muslims.
However, dissecting that instead of focussing on getting criminals like Modi prosecuted is a case of lopsided priorities...
It is always very refreshing to read your articles. It includes lot of facts and sometimes a complete wrong conclusion drawn from it! After reading this article I scratched my head and screamed, what happened to the article I thought I was reading! This is like a perfect figure skater on ice suddenly launches herself in a tangent when people were least expecting it! You think this incidence has defamed India!! You have no idea then how much defamation was caused by the riots in Gujarat itself! Here I think exactly why the external intelligence kinds need to spend long parts of their life outside India before they can join such a job. You have no idea about the betrayal of Indians all over the world who believes in protection of every citizens right in India. You yourself followed the statements made by Modi. You will see that he has the arrogance of any corrupt or fanatics in Indian politics: he does not even think that Indian legal system could ever touch him! Where is the accountability that calls for justice without calling all NRI's anti-Hindu and unpatriotic!
Hawks like Raman favours global capital relentlessly in all walks of our life, but when it comes to accountability before emerging global civil society they invoke old ideas of Sovereignty. Mr. Raman has cited examples from 60s. Is there any internet in 60s where nameless/faceless people like me could reply 2 his misplaced argument? How many people were there in USA in 60s.
This is anachronism. The entire article of B.Raman is anachronistic. It sounds pathetic.
And how any believer of Hindu religion can defend Modi? He is not a corrupt politician, he is a sinner.
I have not read a more rational article on Modi's Visa case than this one. Raman is truly the most level headed person, we have among the columnists of Rediff.
The measure of level-headedness...
by Indian on Mar 29, 2005 08:01 PM Permalink
"If one Indian stabs another Indian in the back with the help of a foreign power, he is considered a progressive, a liberal, a secularist."
Thoughts from a level head. How or what to consider of an Indian who stabs another Indian with the help of foreign power? I came across a leveller head asking of the Indian who back-stabbed another Indian with the help of Indian Government machinery. Patriot, a nationalist, an Indian?
What level head can assume a visa denial to be anything more than a slap on the wrist for mass murder?
Have been in the United States since 2 years and have seen Indians hating each other for the "cheapest" reasons possible and this case is no different ... The ego problem has been prevailing and should be in the future too. Yes am from Gujarat and am ashamed of what happened .. infact we all are but that doesnt mean people should keep on raising this issue where ever they get a chance. Yes, this topic brings along large audience and claps but this didnt go any further ... we all saw the performance of the BJP! and they too have now realised ... cash time is over for them. Infact people have been working hard to improve the image of Gujarat. Lets accept the fact that it was a mistake of both communities and forget about who started and what happened and yes i know wounds take time to heal, but it should be given time to heal RIGHT? Instead we start scratching the wounds instead of applying medicine on it ..... and its the PRESS doing this stuff ... people try to forget things and theres the PRESS coming with some other topic of GUJARAT and then again it doesnt forget to metion about this riots .... how can it forget .. common people .. you are the ones who start a persons day!
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by vivek on Mar 24, 2005 10:38 AM Permalink
For Gujarat to be healed MODI MUST BE PUNISHED BY INDIAN LAW. NO OTHER MEDICINE. Do Gujarat administration have the guts to do that?
Otherwise how can the wounds be healed? I dont understand. On one hand you prosecute those who set train to fire (I firmly support it, it should be) but same time you allow the murderers and rapists to move freely in the state with full state support. Unless this is corrected Gujarat wounds will never get healed and India globally will face the embrassement wherever and whenever the issue is raised.
In no other incident in independant India a state machinery was found engaged in sectarian killings, not in Sikh riots. By doing so GUJARAT HAS DARED THE INDIAN FEDERATION AND ITS CONSTITUTION AND DECLARED AN INDIRECT WAR ON THE INDIAN FEDERAL REPUBLIC. This is a blot on our country. Most state goverments in India have warned Gujarat administration and even the PM Vajpayee. Has Gujarat corrected this? No.
Till then Gujarat will be a shame on India, our constitution and a stick in the arm of international community to beat India. We cant avoid that. We are left with no defence if the issue come over and over again.
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by Raghothama on Mar 24, 2005 02:37 AM Permalink
Amit, I agree with what u hav said, and wud also like to say that, the medicine u were talking about, the best possible medicine cud be one that prevents the recurring of the illness, and that medicine in case of Gujarat is, punishment to the people who did the crime so that others dont repeat it, dont get the courage that they can get away with it, ofcourse this medicine shud b given by us and not by third parties!!!!
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by A on Mar 25, 2005 12:51 AM Permalink
Hi Amit,
Keeping the Gujarat riots out of the media, in my opinion, would only serve to make sure that no lessons are learnt from what happened. "Trying hard to forget" just helps to keep the issue simmering on the backburner. We don't need Modi out of the newspapers/media just so that we can forget the Gujarat riots and get on with our lives as if nothing happened. On the contrary, we need the state machinery's actions during the riots to be scrutized, so that closure can be brought to the many faceless victims (both Hindus & Muslims) of the violence.
Riots are riots, whenever, wherever and whatever be the reasons, and condemnable, to say the least. In your article there is an undefined refrain of seeking foreign assistance to teach a lesson, from the days of Kamaraj till Modis time.I have not been able fathom the deeper meaning of this, honestly speaking. How many,of even the Senior political leaders can recall, either the Chennai riots or the riots en-route to Dandakaranya. Very few I am sure. Why? Because communication channels worked differently. Instant reporting and communication was unavailable, compared to present times. With technology changes, say post 1984, incidences happening anywhere in the world, are known to everyone in a jiffy. And all viewers whoever and wherever they may be, are entitled to their opinion. Including USA. Influence of a few Christians ? Lets not be SO naïve. Modi got what he deserves.I wonder why so many of the born again patriots suddenly feel slighted.I am glad USA denied him entry. Modi has bought OUR Diplomatic status to shame,intentionally. And by the way,why did this Gujrati dominated Hotel association invite Modi?Pandoras Box? Someone will discover the truth.
