Politicians are the dirtiest fellows in India. They being in highly responsible positions acting so selfishly is the most unfortunate thing that could happen to our democracy. And part of this should be attributed to our media too. I have been watching all channels yesterday, and all are telecasting the same non-sense whole day as if there is nothing else is happining in such a big country. Media being the strongest weapon in the democracy, behaving in such a way for TRP ratings is another reason for India's fate today. Why do the people use these two fields(media and politics) to make money when there are hundreds of other fields to do it? Can progress ever be achived with democracy being exploited in such conditions? Ultimately mother India and common man are the victims.GOD save India.
Re: who is the victim?
by raghavendra rao on Sep 11, 2008 02:05 PM Permalink
ya i do agree with kalyan..There are many things happening in this world and media should focus on educating people rather than on such dirty politics..
Whats the difference between Marathi, Tamil and Muslims(in 1947)? What they (Jinnah et al) did in 1947 to form seperate pakistan is being done now by MNS. MNS wants Maharashtra only for marathi speaking guys??? Do Maharastrians work only in Maharashtra?? Why dont they call back all people working in other states back to Maharashtra and build up their own states. Why r the Marathi's moving all over?? MNS is only concerned with its Publicity, or else why only AMITABH AND HIS FAMILLY? Have they done anything positive? They just need publicity and the easiest way is to defame or allege a famous person.
Like they say "There are 2 ways to be famous - Either become GANDHI or become GHODSE" MNS prefers the easier route.
Our strength is unity in diversity. Once that breaks, that's it. I see many chances of that breaking. karnataka/tamilnadu, biharis/assamese, now up/mumbai. once a crack comes, anything is easy to break. We indians should be united just as Indians first.
Re: Unity in Diversity
by vijay potdar on Sep 11, 2008 02:52 PM Permalink
Yes you are absolutely correct so no body should initiate by saying "Hum ___ hai isliye ___ should excuse us". Infacat just apology should not be sufficient there should be some remarkable penalty so that Important persons/VIPs will not comment to hurt any bodies feelings.
Re: Unity in Diversity
by Anchal Vibhuti on Sep 11, 2008 07:58 PM Permalink
What feelings you are talking about sir, I am not from UP Bihar or Mumbai. I am an indian only. If one doesnt know the local language and has to commute then what should he/she can do. She didn't said anything wrong, What she said was an apology to all the marathis that she don't know marathi, but after that the bugger raj is telling to apologize.
Why the hell she should apologize, and why you are not thinking sir that we are indians first...
Re: Unity in Diversity
by Arkotak on Sep 12, 2008 07:35 AM Permalink
jaya can speak in which ever language...we dont care...as long as she does not link her choice of language to Maharastrians. Having uttered this nonsense she ought to apologize
Re: Unity in Diversity
by Hussain AK on Sep 14, 2008 04:15 PM Permalink
Yes Anchal, you are absolutely right to say first of all we all are indians, then only madarais , marathi,marwaadi,hidu, muslim,chirstian etc. etc. Country first. No one is above our Samvidaan and khanoon. Raj is running a guda party group. He should be booked first for damaging private properties & public properties. Hussain. Doha.
Re: Unity in Diversity
by Vinod on Sep 12, 2008 09:06 AM Permalink
was abusing one of the most venerable festivals of Bihar i.e. chhath as drama caring for the sentiments of others. Mr. Potdar what to talk of the sentiments of the mere mortals even the sentiments of gods are not cared for in some places in India. Before you teach others first look at the man in the mirror.
Are the residents of Maharashtra angry that people from other states come here and take away their jobs? If you think so then you need to ask youself a question. Are Maharashtrians prepared to and competent enought to perform the same jobs at the same labour rates that other work with? If they are willing and they are jobless it only means that they are not competent enough, there is no question of quota for a job when there an employer has an option of choosing competence and lower wages. And where has there been research carried on by Shiv Sena or Navnirman Sena in this regard. They all act on some whim and make decisions without looking at its impact. If UPiets and Biharis are sent back, why not Gujratis and Rajasthanis like the Ambanis, Tatas, Birlas? Or are they not taking away jobs from Maharashtrians. Ok... I get it, they are creating jobs na.. so why in the world do they need to be sent back. Are they not creating a profit for themselves out of mumbai why not send them back as well and then lets see how mumbai functions with only Maharashtrians.
Re: What have people from UP and Bihar spoilt of Maharashtra?
by pravin sawant on Sep 11, 2008 02:13 PM Permalink
first I want to know that why in up and bhihar is not progress? why up and bhiharis want to come hear? you ask up and bhiharis politician? In Central govt jobs most jobs filled in up and bhihar. Why other then up and bhiare, no one suitable for these job fro m india,In Maharashtra people not elected even t.c elected. why? because of corruption, not competence. you told that choosing competence and lower wages you are elected. but when after Maharashtra people make mumbai progressive with his hardwork not up and bhiharis. Before question shiv sena and narvnimar sena, you ask up and bhiari politician why up and bhiharis need to leave his own state. In our state, Maharashtra rights by law get first job by Maharashtra people (state government law is 70% must be local) no body say you left mumbai. but you must respect local and in central govt job there must be selection process must fare and competitive. UP and bhihari are rearly hardworking, that hardwork must be use for up and bhihar state development. we have rights to respect our own language and state. Gujaratis and rajasthanis who are staying in mumbai 90% people speck in marathi, then why not up and biharis ready to speck marathi, why like jaya who are staying in mumbai last 40 year speck only hindi. In up and bhihar, we force you to speak in marathi, are up and bhiharis ready? and last you writ lets see how mumbai functions with only Maharashtrians.Why when you are staying in mumbai you are not maharasthrian?
Re: What have people from UP and Bihar spoilt of Maharashtra?
by Guest on Sep 11, 2008 03:03 PM Permalink
First they were the South Indians. The Sena victimised them in 60s and called them derisively yandugunduwalas (because of the sound of their language) and lungiwalas; then it was the turn of the gujaratis; then the muslims;now the north indians; tomorrow somebody else. The problem is not with either the maharashtrians or the migrants. The problem is with sena who have been thriving by not respecting others and preaching hate. Even a cursory look at their history is enough.
Re: Re: What have people from UP and Bihar spoilt of Maharashtra?
by vijay potdar on Sep 11, 2008 03:21 PM Permalink
Sorry your perseption is very wrong it is only the barriers that one must observe when you go to some place as guest. The problem here is like the saying in marathi " Bhatala dili osari ani bhat hatpai pasari" When you have been given the privilage of staying respectfuly with your talent please do not forget the days in the initial stage when you come in search of a shelter.
Re: What have people from UP and Bihar spoilt of Maharashtra?
by vijay potdar on Sep 11, 2008 03:07 PM Permalink
Had it been as you visualise Mumbai would not have grown. A person likes to settel in Mumbai just because people over here do look at what catagory one belongs to but what quality one posseses. The same persone in his own native may not be given the same exposure/status so pl change your own thinking line and try to appriciate the cosmo accepting quality of Mumbai. Other work hard to create similer conditions at you origanating place.
Re: What have people from UP and Bihar spoilt of Maharashtra?
by Vinod on Sep 11, 2008 05:55 PM Permalink
That is what nazis said Mr. Potdar. You are on the right path. But where is the limit? May be some day a Mumbaikar may say that a Sholapurkar is not welcome in mumbai and go to Sholapur. Which will be a defining unit? A village someday.Even marathis have caste and other ethnic differences, which will come to the fore if maharashtrians keep buying your pernitious logic. Your right by your logic should only extend to your own home if we go by your views.
jab election lada woh ahmedabad se. jab girl school khola wo up me. jab koi social work kiya wo up me. par fame aur paisa kamaya wo mumbai me !!!!!!!!! & about signboards- How many of u know that there is a law in mumbai corportn that there should be marathi names oneach signbrd. So what raj is doing is just trying to implement the law. & by d way what is wrong if u put marathi signbbrds ?
Re: signboards must be in marathi
by Ravi Bhanot on Sep 10, 2008 11:29 PM Permalink
Dude, why dont you type the same thing above in marathi and post it? After all we need to accept and agree to everything that Shiv Sena or The Navnirman Sena want us to do by force right?
And if there is a law why does it not be put forward peacefully and lawfull why create riots and murder innocent people just because of some stupid whim and fancy of a few extremists with no other work.
Re: signboards must be in marathi
by vijay potdar on Sep 11, 2008 03:31 PM Permalink
It is just because law is side tracked with various kinds of powers and everybody conveniently bypasses the law to creat shortcuts. In such conditions it is inevitable to have persons like Raj who takes the lead.
Re: signboards must be in marathi
by nakul on Sep 12, 2008 03:27 AM Permalink
If so then I must say Raj has taken the lead on an issue of paramount importance. Imagine the number of lives we will save by having shop signs i marathi. Thank god he soes not get distracted by trivial isssues like bomb blasts, poverty and illetracy.I will surely vote for him in the next elections and when he comes to power, the signboards will be in marathi, birds will be in their nests and all ill be well in this world.
Re: signboards must be in marathi
by CNET FUN on Sep 11, 2008 07:23 AM Permalink
you won't like to be beaten by some Rascal, if you are not observing the speed limit law..right? When you are earning in dollars, you send it to your home and like to invest there. Why dont yuou keep your money in USA? Why don't you donate for social cause in US churches? If the same thhing is done by any body else, why it is pinching you? You have nothing to do with. You marathi have done nothing for the fame of Bachhanns. It is his hard work and dedication. who has paid for him
These lumpen nut job Shiv Sena does not have anything else to do. The majority of nation is living in poverty, under nourished. There is lack of education, health, and sanitation. There is rampant corruption. Don't these nut jobs from Maharashtra do not have anything else better to do?
By the way, constitutionally nobody can stop any citizen from going to or living in any part of the country. Of course, constitution and laws do not mean anything in this corrupt and lawless country. STUPID PEOPLE PROLIFERATE.
Re: We have better things to do as a nation
by Mahesh Kulkarni on Sep 11, 2008 09:43 AM Permalink
exactly.. i was about to comment similar. Shiv sena find better job!! its normal human tendency, don't make celebrities to come up with writing before they even they say a word!
Re: We have better things to do as a nation
by vijay potdar on Sep 11, 2008 03:43 PM Permalink
sir probably your parents have not taught you to behave properly. Instead of pointing your finger to some one( About whome it seems you do not have any knowledge) try to recall whether you have taken any social responsebility other than gathering somthing for you and your dear ones.
Re: We have better things to do as a nation
by nakul on Sep 12, 2008 03:47 AM Permalink
There is one question on my mind if you choose to entertain me.Say, two years ago before Raj bhau decided to speak out on this issue, were you aware/conscious of the 'gross disrespect' meted out by north indian migrants to the local cuture, local language and the local people.If not(i doubt u would admit it) then howcome this remarkable discovery was made so recently. Have the migrants started misbehaving just now?By and large any sensible person would be suspicious of the timing of raj's tirade.Is it sheer coincidence that as soon as he forms a new party, he happens to have this 'Eureka' moment where he realises that the UPites and Biharis are a pain in mumbai.i believe he has been in active politics for more than a decade and he served as a youth leader while he was in shiv sena.Then why did he not bringup this issue which seems so close to his heart.
Re: We have better things to do as a nation
by Vinod on Sep 12, 2008 09:20 AM Permalink
You are correct Nakul. Creating the bogey of disrespect to locals by migrants is a family tradition. In the 1960s the South Indian Migrants and even those who were living for generations were ridiculed as "Yandugunduwalas" on the sound of their language; they were called madrasis and labelled as loongiwalas; their restaurants and businesses were looted; then gujaratis were hounded even those who were living there before the creation of Maharashtra; then muslims were hounded and killed. So Raj is only sticking to a family tradition. And as Mr. potdar says he has been taught by his parents to behave properly as this is "proper" behaviour in Maharashtra.
IF NORTH INDIAN CAN'T COME TO MUMBAI THEN ALL INDIANS SHOULD STOP GOING ABROAD.
by anjul swaraj on Sep 10, 2008 09:29 PM Permalink | Hide replies
It is very easy to say that UPwala & Biharis should not come to Mumbai because they don't belong to Maharashtra, in that case all Indians should stop going foreign because they don't belong to that particular country where they are going. One very important fact which Mr. Deshmukh has written,"UP main khane ke vande aur chale aaye mumbai ko bada karne vale," I would like to say only one thing that in UP no farmer suicides like farmers in Vidarbha. So first try to think about those people who are dying & frankly they are so not dying because of any migrant. Mr. Meraj Khan, don't write such comments which can harm people because ultimately people will suffer. Discussion is a very good thing but it also has it limitations. Yes this is true that Jaya shouldn't have said the last line, but if she has apologised it means that she has learned a good lesson. There is another issue of national language, once American were ashamed because they found that they don't have any national anthem, similarly we should be ashamed that we don't have any national language. As far it is concerned that hindi is only north indian language I must say that u r wrong because the script which Gujrati & Marathi use is Devnagri which is also the script of Hindi hence Hindi, Gujrati & Marathi are sisters. In UP there are 5 languages spoken- Bhojpuri, Bundelkhandi, Avadhi, Khadi boli & Braj bhasha. Hindi is an overall language. Hindi has been taken because of its simplicity & easiness, hence is a national
i feel the discussion is useless...and when is it that if a person is proud of one's state, he/she is hateful of others. so please stop this as this is being brought up by politicians for their own vote bank....kab tak hum log unke jaal mein fanste rahenge.
Re: Marathi was nothing
by Dilip Barve on Sep 10, 2008 09:33 PM Permalink
Jis Thali mein khate hain us mein chhed karna in ki aadaat hain.Chahe JAYA ho ya Bhaiya. Are UP ko jakar sudharo naaa? AAgar Tumahre ander itna guts hain to? "Jute" hamare chat tay ho Aur hame hi Aunkhe dikhatain ho? wah Bhaiya waaaaahaa!!!!!!! wah nilesh well done.
Re: Marathi was nothing
by sk on Sep 10, 2008 10:05 PM Permalink
if u upwals are so good . then why ur own state UP is in tatters. first go there & make it big.u come here coz ur own state cant give u jobs but can only provide gundaas,violence,corruption.get lost from here.
Re: Re: Marathi was nothing
by PC on Sep 11, 2008 02:50 AM Permalink
Why dont you get back all the maharashtrians settled in other states back to maharashtra first.. I dont think they have the right to go and settle in other states (or other countries)either. What do you think you are gonna achieve by all this? Do you want to break the country apart, or do you wanna separate out? Do you think you can survive with only the so called Marathi's living in there?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Marathi was nothing
by vijay potdar on Sep 11, 2008 03:52 PM Permalink
People over there are not abused by these marathi people. The marathi culture has taught them to respect others and also they do know the limits up to which they should be possive in others native.
