Even after 25 years of total collapse of WB economy by communists, there are Bongs who are supporting Commis, it baffels the logic because most of these Bongs are NRIs, anycase Rediff is a for NRIs, in India hardly anyone has time for crap....well to hell with TATA who got too carried away for doing good and to hell with Mamta whatever her intentions and to hell with the people who support the whole mess !!!
Ratan tata decided to invest in WB and this was a great decision where no body is interested in investing. Only the person like Ratan Tata can take this decision. Now he waited for everybody to convince for his act for everybodies prosperty, till he could manage without loss and then with loss as well.
Now he must have thought that this is endless people of WB are not interested in their prosperity. He has taken great decision to close Nano project in WB with the Great Loss. Tata's must have paid a very good amount since Tata's are the best payers in India. Even then it is not accepted by WB.
2 Great Decision World is seeing, cheapest car and stopping of production of the cheapest car by only the one Great Indian.
I Agree with all decisions of Ratan tata.
Hope they come over the great loss, and full fill Ratan Tata's dream.
NANO car singur se production hoga n hote rahenge , comunist has ruled West Bengal 32 yrs aur 32 yrs rule karenge.TATA phir vi invest karega sabur karo Dekhte jao.
Re: Dear frnds - who against Bengal n Bengali
by biswajit on Sep 03, 2008 04:47 PM Permalink
We will be very happy if we got it. at least we will save vake vake-Democrecy ( MLA- MP all r elected cast n Dharm basis n who r criminals ).Communist is better than present Indian Democrecy.
Re: Dear frnds - who against Bengal n Bengali
by vinod gupta on Sep 03, 2008 04:55 PM Permalink
Gunssa mat karo. Communist will shoot if you speak against. Have you heard of Maozedong, the sex pervert, Stalin, the history sheeter. Communist worship them as GOD.
Re: Dear frnds - who against Bengal n Bengali
by biswajit on Sep 03, 2008 05:01 PM Permalink
lalit - the impliment of communist rule depended on dat country's social culture . It is wrong thinking dat it will be d same. Pl see cuba, Venejualla . But there r no custsm, but it is true there r everybody get food, home,medicine,employment.
Re: Dear frnds - who against Bengal n Bengali
by lalit kedia on Sep 03, 2008 05:28 PM Permalink
I fully agree that communist philosophy is war of class but not caste and religion, but the way you said social culture of that state or country, pan-india it does not accept communist philosophy. in fact initially communist never agreed for participating in elections but considering pan-india situation they were reluctant participant. however in hindsight this is ok since they can speak their mind to all. But changes with time is must for all. operation Barga and land for sharecroppers was a good movement in seventies but anti industry was not. For a vast population we need industry as much as trade and agriculture. we need to feed each mouth irrespective of caste or religion.your perspective about cuba and venezuella are far placed. even in china do not look at sanghai,beijing,nanking,Guangzhou, the interior is in bad shape. anyone getting employment in city or major town needs to leave it within 3 years as per law.one has to have a permit to work in a city. we are not too bad in this mix but all leaders be it communist,mamta or even lalu,mulayam,mayawti,needs to change with time. we need to adjust to present reality and not have dogma of seventies.
Re: Dear frnds - who against Bengal n Bengali
by Sunit Kumar on Sep 03, 2008 05:05 PM Permalink
biswajit now i know ur brain washed, have u been to cuba to know that everyone gets food ? please dont bark, Venezualla, that has petrol like Gulf and what u see on streets people protesting for ? come on man, atleast dont bark crap !!
Re: Dear frnds - who against Bengal n Bengali
by Slipery WhenWet on Sep 03, 2008 05:32 PM Permalink
and USD200/month for all employess... eternal poverty for all that communist has managed to do. Even China did that. Only after they turned into an Autocratic country, that they start developing....
Re: Dear frnds - who against Bengal n Bengali
by Veja Biral on Sep 03, 2008 05:23 PM Permalink
The pace of china's development after civil war is due to chinese work culture, never due to communism and we all know that they r name sake communist. Don't ever point out china as exaple of sucess of communism.
Re: Dear frnds - who against Bengal n Bengali
by biswajit on Sep 03, 2008 05:33 PM Permalink
Lalit- it is true abt long 32 yrs ruled by so called communist(not real communist due to under democrecy country) we r not soo happy. first of all we live is a Democrecy country so we should hv a responsible opp party n respected leader. but unfortunately we hv no complite educated responsible leader. due to Mamata's nasty politics TATA project has disturbed. ppl of Bengal( flowting voters who was supporting Mamata frm panchayet electn) they dont like Mamat at present . They r now 93 % ( by SMS voting) dats why I hv told abt another 32 yrs.
Re: Dear frnds - who against Bengal n Bengali
by biswajit on Sep 03, 2008 05:12 PM Permalink
in d communist country pappu yadav,Amar sing,Modi,saifuddin,Mayaboti,joylolita c.t.c should be get panish for life death for their corrpn .
Re: Re: Dear frnds - who against Bengal n Bengali
by biswajit on Sep 03, 2008 05:39 PM Permalink
Before communism ? All Chinas were under " Afim" .there r no work culture in China. work culture has come after communism. kitab paro bad men mukh kholo yaar.
Re: Dear frnds - who against Bengal n Bengali
by lalit kedia on Sep 03, 2008 04:53 PM Permalink
biswajit, I wish you go to china and stay for few days. you are not suppose to speak even if a wrong is done to you. for people like you they will simply put you in jail. it is not communist regime in china but it is a quasi military state. if really you want to enjoy that life definitely you need to experience first. also china invites western and american company to invest , would you expect it out of our communist leaders.
Re: Dear frnds - who against Bengal n Bengali
by Siddarth on Sep 03, 2008 04:45 PM Permalink
China is much developed , you didnt watch olympic or what ,better dressed to
Re: Happy
by aman malhotra on Sep 03, 2008 04:57 PM Permalink
ur comment highlight the extent to which our politicians have corrupted the mind of the common man!....This is really a disaster news for WB
Re: Happy
by sumit mukherjee on Sep 04, 2008 12:04 PM Permalink
Michael, is there any reason to spread communal msgs through a forum like this? Isn't it a fact that the economy of the country would be affected as a whole if Tata's abandon the project? 1500 crores down the drain? Pls. don't spread ill-feeling amongst indians.
It seems there is no Govt in Bengal now.Some industrialist saying "despite ..." and later bending his spine to her agitaion.CM saying we are 235 and they are 30 who would stop us and then getting stopped by the 30.The NH is blocked for days and police is just a mere spectator.The Govt can do nothing when the tatas threat to leave.It seems they are that tortoise whose hands and legs are inside the shell due to "Mamta" phobia.It seems She is the unofficial CM now and wha she says has to be ccarried out.
Re: No Govt in Bengal now.
by Reporter on Sep 03, 2008 04:58 PM Permalink
Buddhadev Bhattacharjee and his industry minister is looking helpless. I asked CM in a recent press interaction at ASSOCHAM in Kolkata that if the government is helpless then what will the industrialists do. He answered that if he forcefully break the Dharna, it may lead to another bloodshed like Nandigram, situation will be totally out of control and TATA's will definetly run away. People will blame the govt. for using power on opposition, everything will be messed up. To keep the negotiation route open, he is not using power and waiting helplessly. But the question is how long he should wait?
Re: No Govt in Bengal now.
by Dipak Bose on Sep 03, 2008 04:19 PM Permalink
Correct. Buddadev is too non-violent Buddha. It is better to have Binoy Konar or Subhas Chakravarty as Chief Minister, who will do another Nandigram in Singur and get rid of this evil devil Mamata Banu and her Jamait-E-Crminals.
Mamta is standing at the end of her political career. All this hipe was only created because mamta doesn't have any political agenda for the next elections. She has no concern with the farmers. The only concern will be the issue on which basis she will go for the elections.
Even no political party neither central govt. is interfering in this issue.Just because they can loose vote.comeon ....all are sick here.mentally sick.
Mamta is such a !@#!$% lady that she could not even listen to MR. Ambani's comments which was totally correct. Now she is going to appose MR. Ambani's belongings.
Everyone can understand that is will be the milestone automobile project in India's history. and I believe that if it is not suitable for few people/farmers then all it must be their because this project can change the future of thousands of people and of course the state.
But if this foolishness continues in WB then other Big Corporates will also think 10 times before investing here.
Hell is here.. these people make place and life hell.
See as an intelligent bussiness man..he should have thought of all these things ABOUT WESTBENGAL...MAMTA CANT BE BLAMED ATALL..did rathan thought other BUSSINESS GIANTS as fools or what..who asked him to invest in WEST BENGAL..SEE before starting the project ..he is facing lots of constraint..imagine after seting up the unit..tommorrow all the LABOURS will take that RED FLAG and do strike..at the end he has to close it again..this is the best time for tata to exit and ask for the compensation from West Bengal govt...
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by Dipak Bose on Sep 03, 2008 03:56 PM Permalink
you are talking rubbish. workers do not strike unless the employers want to cheat them on wages, pensions, gratuity and confirmation of jobs. Tata has no problem, as it is a good employer, not like the Marwaris. Thus, there will not be any problem for Tata from the normal trade unions, but of course INTUC controlled by these Congress Party thugs can do anything to sabotage. That is what mamata Banu, a Muslim woman pretending to be a Brahmin, is doing.
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by vinod gupta on Sep 03, 2008 04:02 PM Permalink
Are the future leader of CITU, singur chapter? Congratulaion. Now i understand your frustration over Mamta
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by lalit kedia on Sep 03, 2008 04:05 PM Permalink
you must see the acts og Guru dasgupta,mr pandhey the great leaders and their acts across the country. CITU and AITUC are single most responsible for the state of industry in west bengal. in fact their netagiri does not work in other states otherwise they would have recreated this state across the country. left trade union leaders do not represent construction workers, marginal workers but they represent already well paid organised workers since big donations comes from them.
but this time they need to learn few tricks from mamta.
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by Dipak Bose on Sep 03, 2008 04:38 PM Permalink
There are trade unions in west Bengal even for Rikshawallas or Daily labourers or maids. There is no Trade Union for child servants, as it is illegal, but there should be one.
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by biswajit on Sep 03, 2008 04:55 PM Permalink
Now that unorg labour r under PF n helth insurance (40 Lacs labour unorginise sector r under dis policy) which has funding by WB Govt n every it will be add 10 lacs. can other state do dat ?
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by biswajit on Sep 03, 2008 05:18 PM Permalink
no man I know very well abt ESI rule. Rickshawall, home servent, daily labour, curpenter,mistri .bidi mftr, fisher ctc( who r unorganise sector) r not able under ESI.pl talk abt after study abt ESI rule.
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by biswajit on Sep 03, 2008 05:30 PM Permalink
Lalit- it is true abt long 32 yrs ruled by so called communist(not real communist due to under democrecy country) we r not soo happy. first of all we live is a Democrecy country so we should hv a responsible opp party n respected leader. but unfortunately we hv no complite educated responsible leader. due to Mamata's nasty politics TATA project has disturbed. ppl of Bengal( flowting voters who was supporting Mamata frm panchayet electn) they dont like Mamat at present . They r now 93 % ( by SMS voting) dats why I hv told abt another 32 yrs.
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by lalit kedia on Sep 03, 2008 05:06 PM Permalink
This is compulsory in all states but find out how many get their pf and ESI due when they want it. please visit few ESI hospitals not only in Bengal but many other states too you will understand the meaning of health insurance. please compare minimum wages of construction workers, marginal workers in Bengal with developed states like maharashtra, tamilnadu and newly developing states like haryana. To be happy with your performance should be judged with facts and figures. I wish best of luck if all feel satisfied for last 3 decades of rule
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by biswajit on Sep 03, 2008 04:37 PM Permalink
NANO car singur se production hoga n hote rahenge , comunist has ruled West Bengal 32 yrs aur 32 yrs rule karenge.TATA phir vi invest karega sabur karo Dekhte jao.Didi kalight men roten rahenge.
Re: Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by prasanna on Sep 03, 2008 04:01 PM Permalink
If the workers have fought for their rights in the past..if they fought becoz of cheating...why did so much of industries close in WB and why do big giants still have a second thought to invest in WB..inspite of the fact that westbengal has cheap labours and good resources
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by Dipak Bose on Sep 03, 2008 04:13 PM Permalink
Most industries in west Bengal Closed down in 1965-67 because they could not get any license, contracts, quota, permits from anti-Bengali politicians like Jagjivan Ram, Morarji Desai, YB Chavan, SK Patil, Bhutalingam etc etc. Only when the license-quota Raj has gone West Bengal is prospering with hundreds of companies lined up to invest. If the employers do not cheat why do the workers create trouble just to be unemployed, workers are not stupid. If you get your salary, no pension, no increments, no confirmation, you will also take out Lal Jhanda in no time.
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by prasanna on Sep 03, 2008 04:25 PM Permalink
I WOULD NEVER TAKE THAT RED FLAG..SEE IF I HAVE WORKED PROPERLY AND STILL I DONT GET CONFIRMATION,SALARY,ETC..I WILL QUIT THAT COMPANY AND JOIN SOME OTHER COMPANY & PROCECUTE IN THE COURT..I KNOW IT WILL TAKE YEARS IN THE COURT..I HAVE BEEN IN KOLKATA FOR 2 YEARS..I USED GET FREQUENT NEWS OF BANDH. STRIKES..I USED TO SEE PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS HAPPY WHEN THE GET THE NEWS OF BANDH OR STRIKE..AND FUNNIER PART IS THE BANDH OR STRIKE EXACTLY FALLS ON FRIDAY..BUT WE SOUTH INDIANS USED TO IMAGINE..HOW ARE THEY RUN THE INDUSTRY..IF THE STRIKES ARE SO FREQUENT..WE USED WORRY LITTLE BIT ATLEAST..BUT PEOPLE IN KOLKATA..MOSTLY LOOK HAPPY ..ATLEAST 9 0UT OF 10 WOULD BE HAPPY IF THEY CALL IT A STRIJE OR BANDH..APART FROM THAT THERE ARE LOTS AND LOTS OF FESTIVAL HOLIDAYS...IT REALLY A CITY OF JOY...HEHE..THEY MEAN IT...
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by Dipak Bose on Sep 03, 2008 04:44 PM Permalink
Most Indians are lucky if he will get even one job in his life. It is no fun for him to go against his employer knowing it will mean starvation, but when people do that and take Lal Jhanda, it only means he has no other choice but to commit suicide. So, how can you blame them? Think about the condition for the majority of the workers who receive no more than Rs.1500 per month, even that is irregular.
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by vinod gupta on Sep 03, 2008 04:38 PM Permalink
It's because South Indian has very low IQ level. What bengali can do in singleday, it took south indian one weeks for the same unless it's menial work. See you will find all cyber collies in B'lore.
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by lalit kedia on Sep 03, 2008 03:54 PM Permalink
This is right analysis. Mamta did today what AITUC, CITU would have done a year later. it is a history in west bengal that first they ask you to come and invest and then their able labour leaders follow it by bandh, dharna, gherao and work stoppage. it isgood that number of officers of tata motor singur do not have to face these left leaders any more because mamta has taken the initiative.
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by prasanna on Sep 03, 2008 03:58 PM Permalink
I Still dont understand..why tata choose singur..did he get mighty acres at very cheap cost or free???
Re: ITS NOT MAMTA TO BE BLAME! RATAN'S MISTAKE !
by abby Das on Sep 03, 2008 04:00 PM Permalink
Once Mr ratan Tata said "despite mamta we shall roll out from singur.Where are his speeches now>?Why cann't he roll out from Singur Despite mamta now?He also said he is worried about his workers safety.Why wasn't he worried about the farmers safety two years back when police charged lathi and threw tear gas?where was he when Tapashi Malik was raped and killed?He tries to give an impression that he is doing a lot for Bengal,actually he is busy doing "secret trade" with the Govt of Bengal and busy to find out his own profit.
