all this talk of having luxury suites is just hot air ... this aircraft will pay for its cost faster if all space is filled by either economy class or business class ... indian airlines should adopt this aircraft ... this equipment is much more value for money ... ideally suited for high density routes like delhi-mumbai
is kingsisher/jet listening (they alone have the wherewithal for this machine) ?
RE:better for low cost airlines
by yash on May 29, 2008 04:17 PM Permalink
i have horrible exp. flying with indian airlines i cant thing IA will imagine to buy it.one more thing is that i would like to pay Casino in A380 ,,so hope vergine wil start soon its services.
Air Bus Industrie should be very picky about who they sell their great aircraft to.
If all passenger space is used for economy class, it could seat 853 passengers. If Airbus Industrie sells this jumbo to Air India,its greedy management will squeeze in around 1000 (or greater numbers) downsized economy seats to pack more passengers like sardines! Air India is one of the worst managed airlines in the World.
Air Bus Industrie should make all buyers (especially those airlines owned by third world nation governments to sign an agreement that they will have a balanced configuration of seats like most world-class airlines.
In fact unless Air India dramatically changes, they should NOT sell these planes to Air India, period.
RE:Airbus A380
by Mohit JINDAL on Aug 09, 2008 02:48 AM Permalink
People in India know how yo adjust tihgtly with each other you must have seen this condition in the trains also. So Air India does not have greedy management and it is specially designed for Indians who travel. So if the airbus industry sells this aircraft to Air India there is no fault in doing that.
RE:Airbus A380
by simanta pathak on May 29, 2008 09:57 PM Permalink
oh u mean airindia should kickout the poor pessengers and make it for the filthy rich NRIs like you? sorry bro thats not gonna happen..
Re: Airbus A380
by b gar on Oct 16, 2008 08:14 PM Permalink
Only because of people like you, we never getting good services for the money we are paying, we are not paying very less for the ticket compared to other countries then why we Indians should travel like cattle transport. It would be appropriate if the IA purchase more flights and run more frequent to earn money not by increasing seats without limits given by the airline manufactures and comfort of the passengers. Do remember one thing with trade dificit india economy would be in hell without NRI money. Just he seen good thing outside of india and compare the lifestyle and expressed his view. for that you don't need abuse them.
If you ask any pilot who actually loves to fly (I don't mean the pilots who like inflated egos).. they would rather fly the boeings.. Airbus are machines that are flown by computers most of the time and pilots are there just to troubleshoot incase something goes wrong.
In '70s there was maneuvering involved in flying aircraft. But today pilots are nothing but glorified bus driver. Pilots get high Salary mainly because of artificially created supply constraints. Now a days flying, landing done by machines and guiding systems.
RE:RE:Not a pilot's dream.
by Vishwas/Jeff on May 26, 2008 09:37 PM Permalink
Glorified bus drivers? Who told you that the qualification is 10th pass??Its 12th PCM and the exam conducted by DGCA for giving license will make you shit in your pants.. (I am a mechanical engineer and can attest that DGCA is 10 times tougher than any engineering exam) Try getting the least that is private pilot license and you will realize what a pilot's job is all about. It is easy for you to sit there in front of your computer and call pilots drivers? When you have emergency situation in face it takes a well trained and brave pilot to take things in his stride. Remember the aircrafts are machines and anything can go wrong when they are operating at above 30000ft. Have little respect for other professions and if you do not know about it then don't say anything. Anyways we don't need your patronizing, the pleasure of flying is a reward (not to mention the salaries)
RE:Not a pilot's dream.
by Ketan Sheth on Jun 01, 2008 09:06 PM Permalink
Dude, Pilots get high salaries, not because of the short supply, but because of the risk and SKILL involved. Skill to keep the aircraft flying in absense 'GUIDING SYSTEMS'. If a doctor makes the mistake, only the patient suffers, but if the pilot makes a mistake, 400 people along with him die... One needs to realise that Pilots job is very demanding and NOT TO BE TAKEN FOR GRANTED! And ask yourself a question... Would you fly in a plane which did not have a pilot in the front seat, and was flown by automation?
RE:Not a pilot's dream.
by Vishwas/Jeff on May 26, 2008 09:35 PM Permalink
Glorified bus drivers? Who told you that the qualification is 10th pass??Its 12th PCM and the exam conducted by DGCA for giving license will make you shit in your pants.. (I am a mechanical engineer and can attest that DGCA is 10 times tougher than any engineering exam) Try getting the least that is private pilot license and you will realize what a pilot's job is all about. It is easy for you to sit there in front of your computer and call pilots drivers? When you have emergency situation in face it takes a well trained and brave pilot to take things in his stride. Remember the aircrafts are machines and anything can go wrong when they are operating at above 30000ft. Have little respect for other professions and if you do not know about it then don't say anything. Anyways we don't need your patronizing, the pleasure of flying is a reward (not to mention the salaries)
AN 225 is biiger then Airbus A380. Airbus A380 is smaller then AN 225
AN 225 has maximum take off weight of 640 tonnes Airbus A380 has maximum take off weight of 560 tonnes
An 225 made its first flight in 1988. Airbus A380 made its first flight in 2005
AN 225 can pull through air or carry external load upto 200 tonnes Airbus A380 has a weak airframe & can not even pull through air or carry any external payload
The An-225 Mriya (Ukrainian: AH-225, NATO reporting name: Cossack) is a strategic airlift transport aircraft which was built by the Antonov Design Bureau, and is the largest, heaviest flying airplane ever built with maximum gross takeoff weight. The design, built to transport the Buran orbiter, was an enlargement of the successful An-124 Ruslan. Mriya (MPIR) means "Dream" (Inspiration) in Ukrainian.
With a maximum gross weight of 640 tonnes (1,411,000 lb), the An-225 is the world's heaviest and largest aircraft, making its first flight in 1988. The An-225 the largest aircraft in the world to take off multiple times. The An-225 is also larger than the Airbus A380 airliner. The Airbus A380 made its maiden flight in 2005, maximum take off weight of Airbus A380 is only 560 tonnes (1,235,000 lb).
AN 225 is biiger then Airbus A380. Airbus A380 is smaller then AN 225
AN 225 has maximum take off weight of 640 tonnes Airbus A380 has maximum take off weight of 560 tonnes
An 225 made its first flight in 1988. Airbus A380 made its first flight in 2005
AN 225 can pull through air or carry external load upto 200 tonnes Airbus A380 has a weak airframe & can not even pull through air or carry any external payload
The An-225 Mriya (Ukrainian: %u0410%u043D%u0442%u043E%u043D%u043E%u0432 %u0410%u043D-225 %u041C%u0440%u0456%u044F, NATO reporting name: Cossack) is a strategic airlift transport aircraft which was built by the Antonov Design Bureau, and is the largest, heaviest flying airplane ever built with maximum gross takeoff weight. The design, built to transport the Buran orbiter, was an enlargement of the successful An-124 Ruslan. Mriya (%u041C%u0440%u0456%u044F) means "Dream" (Inspiration) in Ukrainian.
With a maximum gross weight of 640 tonnes (1,411,000 lb), the An-225 is the world's heaviest and largest aircraft, making its first flight in 1988. The An-225 the largest aircraft in the world to take off multiple times. The An-225 is also larger than the Airbus A380 airliner. The Airbus A380 made its maiden flight in 2005, maximum take off weight of Airbus A380 is only 560 tonnes (1,235,000 lb).
RE:Please do not fool people regarding Airbus A380
by Vaibhav Kumar on May 23, 2008 05:33 AM Permalink
What do you mean by fooling people man?You are comparing apples with oranges!In your style of writing I shall respond:
True AN225 was bigger,but it was not built or used as commercial passenger airliner.
AN225 did not fly as fast as the A380. Max speed of AN225 ~0.7Mach; A380~0.96Mach.
When you say AN225 was heavier,that's not a very good thing to compare to prove better if it was heavier.The lighter the better up in the air.
A380 is way WAY more fuel efficient.
A380 made with a much larger proportion of composites (less than B787 though).=>Much more comfortable for people inside due to more humidity (skin feels less dry).
A380 was not built to compete with the AN225 in terms of payload capacity.Still,as a freight carrier (A380-800F) it can carry up to 152.4 tonnes.Not bad compared to 250 tonnes of A225.
FYI, the largest aircraft was the Hughes H-4, which however only flew once (but was not intended as a proper high-flying aircraft).
And if you really do not understand what you are doing,then in simple words,you are comparing a minivan to a truck! You cannot compare the A380 with the A225!It's ridiculous! Nothing against the AN225,but the comparison is ridiculous.If you still want to compare,even then the A380 is not "crap" against the AN225. The A380 has a range 3 times longer,it requires a shorter take-off run,it can fly higher,is more cost efficient.Also,Lighter=>Better!!!!
Rediff is not "fooling" people man. It's got the news, and it is correct!
RE:Please do not fool people regarding Airbus A380
by Gireesh Sharma on May 23, 2008 06:05 PM Permalink
First purchase it, then try it in your owned space.
The hope of Russian air industry, the fly-by regional jet, Superjet 100 successfully made its first test flight on Monday, says the spokesman for Sukhoi Civil Aircraft. "It rose into the sky like a blue bird, performed all tests and landed," says the official, who watched the flight in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.
I guess one of the editors in rediff watched the latest episode of man made marvels on National Geograhic. The article is timed just after the the television screening.
RE:Inspired by National Geographic?
by Vaibhav Kumar on May 24, 2008 04:52 PM Permalink
Don't think you know that many news channels/papers etc get their news from certain sources, which can be common to a number of outlets. Purpose of Rediff is to provide you with the news. What you are trying to imply is that McDonalds should breed its own chicken. If you don't know, then it does not. It gets it chicken from a source (a company that breeds chicken), buys it from them...this source can provide its chicken to other companies too (provided it is not against the contract with McDonalds).
