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The fact of the matter...
by Proud Indian on May 01, 2008 02:52 PM  Permalink 

The fact of the matter is that large companies are just sweat shops ( for over 90%) of thier employees. The work is doen by large teams and work is done in tasks. To draw a parallel, each person has to only turn a nut & bolt, and when enough nuts and bolts have been turned, you get an engine. Only once in a blue moon does a new blue moon will a new engine get designed. So the nett result is that 99% of the ppl will be doing boring repetetive jobs (turning nuts& bolts) and only 1% get exciting jobs (design engines) and there will be 0.0001% who get the really good jobs of managing the ppl do the repetetive jobs or the exciting jobs - and that is top managment. Now if you are a normal grad with normal brain power and parents who dont own a company you have 99% chance of getting repetetive jobs, and 1% of chance of getting an exciting job and 0.0001% chance of making it into top managment with all your hair black.

The way to deal with this to get to look at job drudgery as a necessary evil and not get drowned in it. Accept that at MNC's and other large cos, your chance of working hard and getting into top managment is practically zero. The way to make it to the top is to join a small company (less than 500 ppl) which is growing fast.
This applies to all industries like IT, BPO, Retail, Avation, telecom and manafacturing.

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For Smitha Rajan............................
by sinoj joseph on May 01, 2008 02:19 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Hi,
I am Sinoj Joseph Working as a Banker in UAE.First of all let me tell you one thing the above mentioned cases are may be right or wrong,If Smitha is going for door to door sales,I belive thats the best learning Experience in Marketing.If she continues atleast for an Year I belive she will be the Team Leader for the next year and the career goes on.........
I belive that the first steps is alway will not be the smooth one.I have done only Graduation in Computers after Graduation I joined in one of the famous pvt bank as Investment Advisor that too not in their Direct rolls.But after 4 Years I can proudly say that the experience learned from that Bank is made me into Middle Management Position in UAE Bank.
So nothing more to say..World is becoming more and more competetive...So to build up a good career,Smitha you should suffer a lot.....

Dream More....Visualize your Dreams..Definitely you will achieve one day....

Regards,

Sinoj Joseph
sinoj.j@rediffmail.com



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RE:For Smitha Rajan............................
by Vaibhav Shete on May 01, 2008 02:44 PM  Permalink
I surly agree with you in this regards. MBAs dream of golden jobs as consultants or financial analyst, but they don't even know ABCs of what's there in the Market or the real world.

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Every single job is respected
by Dhiman Mohajan on May 01, 2008 01:59 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Author should respect to every single job. I don't understand why an MBA can't go door to door to sale. Without work experience or without understanding the consumer or market how someone will understand the market and later on if get promoted will take the decesion. Indians need to change their mentality. We should respect to every people and every job. Nothing is small.

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RE:Every single job is respected
by Mohammad kashif on May 01, 2008 02:26 PM  Permalink
i am sure u r not MBA.There is no matter arise of respect the job. This situation called underemployed. If you r right that a fresh graduate should go himself for market serveyso can u ask it to IIM graduate just because he/she does not have real life experience. if no then u can not say to any MBA to go to door to door selling.

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WE NEED TO REORGANIZE .. INDIAN UNION
by JaiHanumaan on May 01, 2008 01:57 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Here the current state of indian union.
Indian secular UNION should be dissolved in to 5-8 nations states and reformed into a federation having common national military as well as state military.

We give foreigners a very poor and confused impression about india and keep fighting with eachother when we go outside india.

If we reorganize we can have a clear sense of national cultural identities with some common cultural background. The current state police/business/and adminstrative structures of current states can be used to form the new nation states to form common tax base. This will give clear national identities to each group in an administrative mess caled india, where every body thinks the other state is taking advantage of me.

Upper north India:- Punjab, haryana, Kashmir,and I think rajasthan should also be part of it, but it gets counted in nothern india.. i dont know why.

There is north india Hindi speaking regions :- UP, Bihar, MP .. Rajasthan, but rajasthan should be struck out of this arrangement.. as vasundhara raje herself said rajasthan is not part of BIMARU states.

West India :- Maharashtra, Gujrat

East India :- Starting from bengal, assam, and 7 sister states of india.

South India :- Four states of karnatak, tamilnadu, kerela, andhara pradesh.

They should be made independent countries. And then they should have economic cooperation and treaties between them. That will be much better
than an indian union as it stands today.

Nobody gives damn on i

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RE:WE NEED TO REORGANIZE .. INDIAN UNION
by Amit KS on May 01, 2008 06:39 PM  Permalink
Yes Mr. jai hanuman, then pakistan will easily annex all the four regions coz any of them will not be able to fight pakistan alone.this is not europe where people think differently here we are surrounded by china and pakistan.

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RE:WE NEED TO REORGANIZE .. INDIAN UNION
by JaiHanumaan on May 01, 2008 07:16 PM  Permalink
How is that, it will be a much bettefr idea for india that way, I am not saying that there should be different military, there should be one national army. Also regional armies for purpose of better administration.

Indians keep fighting and on everything when we go out show ourselves to the world its a very pathetic, to see how confused each indian is with other. They all hate each other.

This reorganization is only for tax and economic purposes as it is every state is acting in its selfish economic interest, i am just callieng it to formalize it.

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RE:WE NEED TO REORGANIZE .. INDIAN UNION
by JaiHanumaan on May 01, 2008 01:58 PM  Permalink
WE NEED TO REORGANIZE INDIAN UNION, With globalization.

Nobody gives damn on it.. every body is after their pockets and money.Indians of current generation both senior aswell as jounior are grredy and selfish generation, state of india deserves destruction in its current form.

India was a good idea at the time of gandhi and british, we need not be hungup on it, we are independent now and we can reorganize to our will and liking. And have a clear sense of identity to present to rest of the world instead of utter confustion to foreign countries.


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RE:WE NEED TO REORGANIZE .. INDIAN UNION
by JaiHanumaan on May 01, 2008 02:23 PM  Permalink
I guess no one likes north indian to stand up, if it stands up, they all hate a hindi speaking north indian.

Will you please mind you language. Did you see the violence against the north indians in various parts of the country bot physical and psychological. Wake its time for north to stand up and be counted. There will be lot of idxiots like u who will resist that.

I dont want to disturb anyother state go and live there and I just want north to standup on its own two feet and be counted.

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RE:RE:WE NEED TO REORGANIZE .. INDIAN UNION
by Proud Indian on May 01, 2008 03:04 PM  Permalink
pray - tell me, how the reorgnization of states in India related to an article on work conditions and plight of some underemployed ppl? be relevant my dear friend.

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RE:WE NEED TO REORGANIZE .. INDIAN UNION
by Ind on May 01, 2008 04:18 PM  Permalink
JaiHanumaan is brainwahshed...keep dreaming

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RE:WE NEED TO REORGANIZE .. INDIAN UNION
by JaiHanumaan on May 01, 2008 07:40 PM  Permalink
Wake up buddy, I am very relevant here buddy and I am not dreaming. The HINDS will have to standup and stop playing the only buffoon around for national integrity and unity and rest all of india will selfish and blame it and its leaders and call it BIMARU States and what not, rightly or wrongly of doing some wrong to the people.

Current gener of indians are the greediest and most unprincipled. India needs to better reorganize for better trade and job opportunities to better present a face to the rest of the world.

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RE:INEDIAN UNION SHOULD BE DISSOLVED.. FOR BETTER ADMINISTRATION
by JaiHanumaan on May 01, 2008 01:53 PM  Permalink
Nobody gives damn on it.. every body is after their pockets and money.Indians of current generation both senior aswell as jounior are grredy and selfish generation, state of india deserves destruction in its current form.

India was a good idea at the time of gandhi and british, we need not be hungup on it, we are independent now and we can reorganize to our will and liking. And have a clear sense of identity to present to rest of the world instead of utter confustion to foreign countries.


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RE:INDIAN UNION SHOULD BE DISSLOVED .. FOR BETTERMENT OF ADMINISTRATION.
by JaiHanumaan on May 01, 2008 01:44 PM  Permalink
t generation both senior aswell as jounior are grredy and selfish generation, state of india deserves destruction in its current form.

India was a good idea at the time of gandhi and british, we need not be hungup on it, we are independent now and we can reorganize to our will and liking. And have a clear sense of identity to present to rest of the world instead of utter confustion to foreign countries.

Especially north india has to rise up like a phoenix from its ashes of its destruction by islam and britain and regain its prominence.

I definitely dont want to live under the shadow of southindians as some sort of intellectual elites to be revered.

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REDIFF whats your problem..
by JaiHanumaan on May 01, 2008 01:36 PM  Permalink 

Why you keep removing my threads, shame on you.

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Start out in a small company
by cynic on May 01, 2008 01:27 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I feel these problems happen when a job seeker is greedy for money from day one and wants to be treated like a Chairman from start. A better way to have a fulfilling professional career is not to feel glamourised by big brand names, but to start off in a small company where it's easier to prove your abilities and get noticed, and then move to a bigger company on grounds of experience. A lot of famous CEOs started out as door-to-door marketeers because it's one of the best ways to understand and conquer human psychology. Moral: It doesn't matter how high the mountain is - everybody starts at the bottom.

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RE:Start out in a small company
by LK Advani on May 01, 2008 02:01 PM  Permalink
u sure are a baniya CEO

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Bonded labour
by on May 01, 2008 01:23 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I am not totally agree with the Author as this is lack of research work from Employee before getting into the company as what will be job profile and what is expected from him?
I have a different point to take up here that in India why we have this bond?
Most of the graduates who gets placed after campus has to sign a bond sometime as long as 4years with their employer stating that it is for ROI(return of investment)they have on employee.If one sees the bigger picture it is not for ROI it is for safeguarding their interest so that they can use them with lesser salaries and not matching job profile so that they maximise their profit.
We need regulation from government on this Bond as it not only restricts in getting better job oppurtunity but also limits if one wants to leave the job for higher education.

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RE:Bonded labour
by Proud Indian on May 01, 2008 03:01 PM  Permalink
having worked in the top managment of a few IT firms, I can say that work bonds in India are just a bluff. Go ahead and break it. If you are not doing permanent harm to company ( stealing stuff or enciting large groups of employees to go with you) - the company will not care. Now it may be diffrent if you have been forced into a loan or something like that - in that sense, forced debt is illegal - and there are exisiting laws against it. No one can force anyone to take a debt in order to retain a job.

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RE:Bonded labour
by Readiff on May 01, 2008 01:52 PM  Permalink
You are missing the point here. The author is talking about Graduates who come out of second class institutions. When people joined such institutions, they wouldn't expect that they will get jobs after their graduation. How many graduates do research before they embark into employment? Do these second class institutes give enough education and confidence?

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RE:Bonded labour
by on May 01, 2008 02:00 PM  Permalink
Agrred that I missed the point but I wanted to draw attention on BOND issue.

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