India is soon heading towards a phenomena called 'stagflation'.In coming years we could see inflation as well as stagnation.The neoliberal policies of our PM has virtually killed our farm sector...During his tenure as FM he decreased farm subidy under the duress of Western powers..Poor farmers became victim of money lenders as der was no coperative banks providing loans to these poors...This coerced many farmers to commit sucides..The loan waiver by UPA govt is not going to benefit 50%of the farmers as most of them have taken loans frm greedy money lenders...Very few know that no provision for money has been made in budget for loan waiver...All the loan amount has to be replaced by govt bonds....Recommendations of 6th pay comission would just fuel our inflation which is already hovering around 6%..Demand would rise nd in absence of supply we would be pushed towards stagnation...It would have been better if govt would have introduced performance besed incentive...This would have fostered competetion nd alos made sick public units more profitable without putting additional burden on state exchequer...
there r chances of Nation wide protest against this hike. no need to pay those non-performers from publick money. review every & each employees performance the kik them out
RE:Nationwide Protest
by Agastya Viswambhara on Mar 24, 2008 03:15 PM Permalink
It's just okay if there's a hike on the basic. A percentage will come back via tax OR the economy will grow via spendings. However, there's got to be a huge revamp in governmental operations- right from Union to State. Most importantly, THERE HAS TO BE A HIKE IN PENSION - after all govt has to also think of its senior citizens who find it difficult top cope with rising inflation...
RE:Nationwide Protest
by harish chandra on Mar 24, 2008 03:25 PM Permalink
You seems to be in a private sector..actually one of those desparate guys who tried his level best to enter in the Govt. Job but did'nt succeed. ..
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by vasudevan S on Mar 24, 2008 03:32 PM Permalink
I agree with you Harish. He doesn't "possess" the right "criteria" and "talent" to enter into govt. services. Poor soul. LOL
RE:Nationwide Protest
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 03:35 PM Permalink
ya here e'one traced the cause of ur erectile dysfunction and unsatisfactory family life...lol that was trend of 60 to be in a govt. job but go back ask ur own kid wht they prefer a govt job or mnc ????
RE:RE:Nationwide Protest
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 03:37 PM Permalink
im unmarried and most of govt. employees babus class-1 wanted me to be thr. son-inlaw
RE:Nationwide Protest
by great on Mar 24, 2008 03:36 PM Permalink
Govt. and CIVIL SERVANTS bashing has become fashionable and that has seeped into the psyche of a below average moron like sunil pradhan. If you think that you are better than the guys out there in govt. why don't you enter into the system and do some good rather sitting on the boundary and shouting foul.
RE:Nationwide Protest
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 04:24 PM Permalink
how insecure ur ? man we dont care who is our employer or when to be fired from job why u know we do have right talent we can live anywhere :D
RE:RE:Nationwide Protest
by great on Mar 24, 2008 03:40 PM Permalink
SUNIL PRADHAN I THINK U R ON THE BENCH NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO GET A PROJECT. SORRY DEAR THEN YOU WILL NOT FIT EVEN INTO GOVT. SERVICE. SO DEAR STOP YOUR NONSENSE DO SOME COURSE AND TRY IN SOME DIGITAL PLANTATION WHERE THEY WILL PAY YOU FOR JUST RECEIVING THE INSTRUCTIONS AND CLICKING THE MOUSE.
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by great on Mar 24, 2008 03:59 PM Permalink
sunil pradhan you are presuming that govt. is not doing anything. what are you doing now. 10% of your guys work and you are among the rest 90%, parasite right thats why you are whiling away your time rather than contributing to your Orgns revenue. stop chatting and get to work if u have or if u r in bench keep replying. Babe you need to grow before opening your mouth other flies will get in.
RE:Nationwide Protest
by great on Mar 24, 2008 03:58 PM Permalink
sunil pradhan you are presuming that govt. is not doing anything. what are you doing now. 10% of your guys and you are in the rest 90% parasite right thats why you are whiling away your time rather than contributing to your Orgns revenue. stop chatting and get to work if u have or if u r in bench keep replying. Babe you need to grow before opening your mouth other flies will get in.
RE:Nationwide Protest
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 03:45 PM Permalink
grown up babe! dont presume anything blindly ! who told u im in bench ?? does ur cousin or relatives in IT or having any proximaty with IT
RE:Nationwide Protest
by Viz Narayan on Mar 24, 2008 03:09 PM Permalink
Very correct. I think entire nation should raise protest against this unjustifiable move from govt for vote banks.
RE:Nationwide Protest
by prithipal bhatia on Mar 24, 2008 03:14 PM Permalink
How can you ask for performance based salaries,when the appointments and promotions are not on merrit.At the time of selection of candidate,caste,religion,, are given more weightage than his qualification ability and experience.ONLY GOD CAN SAVE THIS COUNTRY
RE:Nationwide Protest
by Praveen Prabhakaran on Mar 25, 2008 12:59 AM Permalink
If caste , religion and what else can bring railways to what it is 2day.. well, that that be so...
RE:Nationwide Protest
by Roni gavaskar on Mar 24, 2008 03:03 PM Permalink
You are right - But the hike should be PERFORMACE based - to encourage better work culture and reward well performing emoloyees.
Remember - It is TAX PAYERS money - not Pay commisions money.
RE:Nationwide Protest
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 03:08 PM Permalink
common i;m doing something like u. but im spending my pie from my employers but u idiot wasting public money. U & me cant compared !
RE:RE:Nationwide Protest
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 03:10 PM Permalink
hope u ve educated enough to understand whts is basic difference between u & me :)
RE:Nationwide Protest
by Akash Mathur on Mar 24, 2008 03:15 PM Permalink
Sunil, my comments were for Roni, not for you. Secondly how can you say my salary as 'public money' if I am in govt? Your computer is running on electricity given to your company by govt. The water you just drink is also given by govt you moron.
RE:Nationwide Protest
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 03:28 PM Permalink
my company is paying to govt. for that.dont worry about me , im much more profitable and asset of my company.
RE:Nationwide Protest
by vasudevan S on Mar 24, 2008 03:28 PM Permalink
Both the electricity as well as water is paid - doesn't bother whether it is employee or employer. Mr. Akash, you may be a honest & upright govt. employee but it is sad to say that the majority doesn't belong to this class. It pains one & all irrespective of self employed or private employed. Do yr job & expect a hike. Its opposite in Indian govt. employee concept.
RE:Nationwide Protest
by Roni gavaskar on Mar 24, 2008 03:12 PM Permalink
I am in New Zealand & Timings diff is 7:30 hours of India..This is an important Issue - That's why I am writing..Ok.
You are right - But the hike should be PERFORMACE based - to encourage better work culture and reward well performing emoloyees.
Remember - It is TAX PAYERS money - not Pay commisions money.
RE:Nationwide Protest
by venkat kumar on Mar 24, 2008 03:10 PM Permalink
Where r u working and how much salary u r getting? 6th pay commission salry is only a corrective measure to some extent for the present escalating prices. Salary for a IT professional with B.Tech degree is more as compared to Ph.Ds in Govt.
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by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 03:12 PM Permalink
pvt employees specially ITs salary is market driven. they r getting it from thr employers not from tax payers money. so dont compare
This is shocking...Everybody in world (not only india) knows how efficient and loyal our govt. employees are. Like pvt. sectors let them have apprisals. Make a note of how much work he has completed in a year most importantly within scheduled time not that 1 day of work completed in a month. Best e.g. for this in bangalore one of the Sr. govt. officer made a big news to complete underpass (they call it as Magic Box) in 36 hours in actual it took 33 days to complete. What action being taken to such employees??? how efficient & eligible are they for the work assigned.
RE:Another political play from Congress...
by sri sri on Mar 24, 2008 03:19 PM Permalink
That employee (read, the BMP chief) was transferred to Hubli to continue his mission there!That's the best action taken against a nonperforming Govt official! on the other hand,every second day, you read news of so many misappropriation cases and disproportionate wealth cases against top Govt officials; NO ACTION IS EVEN POSSIBLE AGAINST THEM!Not even a suspension! Because they are the ones to write the rules! will they ever dig their own graves?!!
Dear All, I totally agree to the fact that Govt employees are underpaid. In addition to the hike I was expecting an announcement for the betterment of working conditions for various dept. I having served far and wide in one of the elite security agencies of the Govt of India I know and all my friends too know that the working conditions need to be developed. Performance, consistency and transperancy will then follow. Also a constant comparison between a Management Post Grad and a govt servant should not be done.Look at the facilities and clearances high officials get when they are serving. The 40percent hike is on the BASIC. Look out for those Young Officers jumping out of their service and joining the Pvt sector.
RE:sab Thik hain
by Roni gavaskar on Mar 24, 2008 03:04 PM Permalink
You are right - But the hike should be PERFORMACE based - to encourage better work culture and reward well performing emoloyees.
Remember - It is TAX PAYERS money - not Pay commisions money.
Well said...I have read many discussions here today.... I must share this with u Roni.. I dont know why people talk of things not related to the topic?? Just read some discussions... they are just hilarious... Regards, vishwesh
Dear All, I totally agree to the fact that Govt employees are underpaid. In addition to the hike I was expecting an announcement for the betterment of working conditions for various dept. I having been served far and wide in one of the wlite security agencies of the Govt of India I know and all my friends too know that the working conditions need to be developed. Performance, consistency and transperancy will then follow. Also a constant comparison between a Management Post Grad and a govt servant should not be done.Look at the facilities and clearances high officials get when they are serving. The 40percent hike is on the BASIC. Look out for those Young Officers jumping out of their service and joining the Pvt sector.
RE:Sab Thik Hain!! Lekin
by shreen on Mar 24, 2008 03:14 PM Permalink
You must be a Govt employss or the son of one such!what is the guarantee that performance will improve after the pay raise? dont you think the pay commission should have stipulated that as the basis for the hike? will the Govt employees accept such a recommendation? and, if the performance standards are NOT met, will you be open for a reversal? are you ready for retrenchment? Have you EVER faced a loss of job? that too for no fault of yours, if the company doesn't perform? talk logic.Dont try to beat around the bush! The Tax payers' money is being syphoned off by the Babus and Netas for their own good. In the form of load waivers and salary hikes. As someone who is NOT benefitted by all this largesses, what am I supposed to do? write in this forum and keep quiet and keep paying taxes for the pittance doled out to me in the form of public services?? keep paying bribes for even the basic? Or, join the naxalites and give a sound trashing to the Govt employees??
Chill....Read what I have written carefully. That just talks of improvement of working conditions...it was a suggestion. A lot of people who write here have neither travelled in the remotest parts of the country, nor serving any Govt Dept but they keep on finding only negative things.. and thats why they end up finding those. With due respect as I have served one of the finest agencies coming under the MHA ( Ministry of Home Affairs) and having seen and experienced some very imp things let me put in my points. Regards, Vishwesh
Though this may go a long way, but still the salary is not comparable with pvt. sector. My personal opinion is that the salary should be equivalent to the pvt. sector and should be sufficient to meet the justifiable requirement of the person so that curruption is minimised. effective check, then, on curruption would really work and will have support from all corners. We should learn lessons from the West in this aspect.
The Govt.servant has to serve atleast 33 years whereas the MLAs/MPs/Ministers are just 5 years. I do not understand what is the need to compare these politicans with the Govt. Servants? For any govt. job specifically there is a qualification is required for politicans like MLAs/MPs/Ministers etc. there is no such qualification mentioned anywhere.
In this scenario it is not correct to compare with the Govt. Servants with anybody.
Before writing/comparing one should use his/her brain.
