RE:Crush
by Web Monkey on Jul 25, 2007 06:35 PM Permalink
Crusing US? You must be kidding! Per capita income of India is just a small fraction of US and other developed countries. We still have people living on our streets and dying of starvation. Long way to go before catching up with medium income countries like Malaysia, China etc.!
With any sort of development, we are not going to crush anyone by becomeing outsourcing masters. America is super power because they are the most innovative people around. We still are doing coolie works.
RE:RE:Crush
by Amiruddin K on Jul 25, 2007 07:57 PM Permalink
Mig 21 i think you are flying too much come down don't think even about crushing US(first we need to get out of poverty and make per capita income up and there are lot of more other things to get done)
RE:Crush
by Kankipati Rao on Jul 25, 2007 08:26 PM Permalink
Well said. We are only cybercoolies with little innovation, original research or technology. USA is "inventing tomorrow" in Nandan Nilekani's words and we are not able to even digest things invennted daybeforeyesterday. First we have to crush small countries like Malaysia and Korea before we can think of crushing USA with our substandard goods and fake drugs. But we are nowhere near Malaysia and Korea.
RE:Crush
by Abhay T on Jul 25, 2007 06:09 PM Permalink
Appreciation of Rupee doesn't mean crushing US or even crushing US economy. It is as vague as looking at company A's share price (say 100 rs) and company B's share price (sa 50 rs) and say company A has better prospects than company B. There are several factors for becoming a strong economy. Sooner or later Indian companies will need to invest considerably in research and in newer technologies to compete globally. People need to be trained for becoming more innovative rather than to be trained for what a calculator can do otherwise.
good news that rupee value is increasing. be proud to be Indian & its potential
but everyone know that with every sucess we need to sacrifice sonething. i mean some tradeoff can be done in this situation. high profit making sectors can be put to bear loss thats tolerable. at the same time these sectors can increase exporting to less developed nations.this may be one of many sure win methods
RE:INDIA when expanded..
by Lawrence Novva on Jul 25, 2007 04:02 PM Permalink
Many who have lived and worked in developed countries say "India will be the same under developed country for ever". This is very true if every one points finger at others and critizise all the time instead of taking raw views of reality and make small moves to mend ourselves. India is so populated and still remain under developed. This will remain the same if all Indians do not mend their attitude and begin to work with THE COUNTRY as the first priority in mind. For instance, I was extremely ashamed when I happened to use the toilet of Mumbai International Airport. It was pathetic beyond words when you compare this with developed countries(countries which were developing along with us). Lesser said about this is better! and for visitors from other countries, this exactly gives the first hand impression of how Indians treat their country!. Believe me, India will never ever be a developed and clean country if Indian attitude towards India is filthy, filthy not only surrounding us but in our minds also which is the root source of all filth. If this filth is gradually removed by stronger education for the masses from grass root levels, we have the hopes of irradicating the seemingly permanent label "dirty, sick and poverty strickened country" stuck on India by the people of the world since the time of our independence. - Vijay Baskar here is definitely not a traitor. Instead of mis-understanding him, its better to first understand the person's positive attitude towards India in
RE:INDIA when expanded..
by vijay baskar on Jul 25, 2007 04:46 PM Permalink
thanks lawrence.. atleast i find one educated person and practical person in this forum...
RE:INDIA when expanded..
by giridhar vg on Jul 25, 2007 07:14 PM Permalink
I second what has been said by vijay baskar and Lawrence Novva; Its pathetic to see India in such shape after 60 years of Independence; how Vijay mentioned of India was/is true but I wouldnt repeat; But we can obviously change course if the nation as such has a will to; Its sad that with our democratic system it can happen only in couple of centuries to come; 2020 will surely be a dream where as 2200 might be a reality; with Economic; discipline, hygine and self respect all has to better; to my thoughts as said by lawrence things have to better from Grass Root Levels; Along with education I strongly recommend NCC to be a part of curriculum; as the AIMS defined in http://nccindia.nic.in/Aims.htm; is what we truly lack in building the nation; Had this been made mandatory when we got independence; we could have acheived a lot; there is nothing glorious about changing names of cities and places without changing India to either Bharat or Hindistan as it is better known among hum bharatiye. Is it now that we feel sorry about the names? Had we been so proud of those names it could have happened by the time of our constitution itself; Should we continue bla bla a lot can be said; But what how shall we act as individuals to make things better? I am doing my best possible as an Honest Devoted Hindustani.
RE:INDIA when expanded..
by Prakash on Jul 25, 2007 02:40 PM Permalink
u..., india is our country whether it is developing or not, did u do anything for india.
RE:RE:INDIA when expanded..
by vijay baskar on Jul 25, 2007 02:44 PM Permalink
what the hell u want to waste my energy or resources for this totally worthless nation
RE:RE:RE:INDIA when expanded..
by subbu on Jul 25, 2007 08:26 PM Permalink
You son of bitch, We donot need people like you in India,Never again come here for anything!India will be definitely a better place without people like you.I guess you are wortking in a white country and you can royally and loyallylick their boots but you people should not be given any place in our mother land!
RE:INDIA when expanded..
by vijay baskar on Jul 25, 2007 02:53 PM Permalink
show me even after 50 yrs... u will be in the same state...and cant touch the foot of US UK.. atleast by discipline , hygine and self respect
RE:INDIA when expanded..
by Karthik R on Jul 25, 2007 03:22 PM Permalink
how could u even think like this? even kafeel or hannef would say they are indians (though i personally hate them)..but you moron what do u think of yourself? u were a born phirang is it? you pardesi..learn to love ur motherland first n then do the talking.
RE:INDIA when expanded..
by Amiruddin K on Jul 25, 2007 07:59 PM Permalink
Dear vijay baskar we are indian so we need to work out and contribute for growing our india.if we will sit and say nothing is happeing and nobody does anything will not help us. Don't say just do it .
RE:RE:INDIA !!!!
by Karthik R on Jul 25, 2007 03:26 PM Permalink
"First let people develop discipline and self respect then lets talk abt politics and politicians"
vijay baskar..from your selection of words it is obvious how disciplined and cultured you are. Are you a coolie somewhere in the white man`s land? does your boss know about your loyalty?
RE:RE:RE:INDIA !!!!
by vijay baskar on Jul 25, 2007 04:48 PM Permalink
karthik i dont spit in road... i dont urinate in road.. i dont neglect traffic signals , i dont drive rash when written go slowly, i dont hang in trains and bus inspite of warnings...
These all shows i am disciplined.. ask ur useless indians to follow these stuff ...and then about discipline.. i am an engineer ..not a coolie.. but i respect coolie jobs in india too... Remember onething... i never spoke abt the work indians do... its upto them.. i am just talking abt the way they spoil the nation...
RE:RE:RE:RE:INDIA !!!!
by rajeev nair on Jul 25, 2007 05:07 PM Permalink
Though i do agree with your basic point about Garbage, Indecency, discipline etc etc , you started calling us "they,them". Change your name as "Jack Ass' stupid. Dont come to this forum and get rubbed . The whole of farang creams will not help you heal those rubbings .
RE:RE:RE:RE:INDIA !!!!
by giridhar vg on Jul 25, 2007 07:22 PM Permalink
Vijay I too share the same feelings; But I request you to calm down and be proactive; You are just reacting to incidents happening in India; I have been doing the same way like you are doing now; But it does no good to no one than to just take to a heated argument as its happening now; I have been looking for so many resources of Individuals / NGO's trying to make change to all that you have stated; But its pathetic that our Political system that is flawed and not the people of India. For things to change; People have to change and the Politics; Its like the Question; Is it the hen or the egg that appeared first; But there has to be a way out; And there is; A strong Political Will can make the change;
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:INDIA !!!!
by Arvind Singh on Jul 25, 2007 07:57 PM Permalink
Prepare yourself for the new age do soul searching go to the real development to attain peace of mind, come out of MAYAJAL of maya. The kind of development we are hading for is going to destroy whole earth to ashes, all the water will evaporate on day, the source of life will be lost, the climate will become hostile. An indication is already here the small TSUNAMI, see every where weather has change. LONDON, HUNGARY and SIMLA have become HOT, you have heavy rains in rainy season causing a flood in most of the metros, LONDON too expriencing the same. Winter have become freezing. Let a few nuclear bombs be dropped by US on Pakistan in frustration for not been able to find OSAMA, half of this world will be finished the other half will follow suit. Do soul searching what is development living with nature or without it, writing all this garbage sitting in office and enjoying food grown by poor hard working peasants and staying in fort like office build by poor majdoors. This is development, were the land lords wrong is directly exploiting peasants for therir comfort since you r already exploiting them indirectly.
RE:RE:RE:RE:INDIA !!!!
by subbu on Jul 25, 2007 08:20 PM Permalink
One of our brilliant students from a NIT studying MS in Ohio state university died in a car accident when he was returning from the university and walking on platform on bridge late night.This happened about a month back.You know the reason-one car heading north jumped the signal at very high speed violating traffic signal and the other car coming from west collided and the north bound car hit the innocent asset of India and he was thrown off the bridge.Both the cars and other passing cars made no attemt to trace the student who has fallen in to that dry river.That being saturday only on sunday evening they found him mising and his body was traced on Monday with full of wounds.Oh! what a cruel fellow these Americans are!You say they obey traffic rules-they obey out of fear and not out of discipline.Drunken driving is very common in USA.Have you heard of Detroit man-well you cannot travel by town bus without looing your trousers!The worst crime city in the world!I have visited and worked in several countries but I find India is the best among the lot you moron!
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:INDIA !!!!
by Sumit De on Jul 26, 2007 12:34 AM Permalink
I truely and fully support this view, u wont find a place like india, I am not telling this out of patriotism, although even that is no doubt a reason, but this is the only place where we can be fear free, keep our head high, and can have a free soul, u cant find it anywhere else mate
RE:RE:RE:INDIA !!!!
by Amiruddin K on Jul 25, 2007 08:02 PM Permalink
First vijay baskar must know from which country is he ??? did he said from were he comes ?
RE:RE:INDIA !!!!
by vijay baskar on Jul 25, 2007 02:32 PM Permalink
am not crying due.. rather i am spitting ...me into politics ? huh !!!! What bothers me if this country goes to ditches man ? why shud i care ?
First let people develop discipline and self respect then lets talk abt politics and politicians
I am happy with the appreciating rupee value. It is good for manufacturing industries in India. It gave heavy blow to the software coolies and their bass. IT coolie companies recruit all branches of engineers in bulk for menial work. The recruitment is to show the resources to their client for work orders. There is brain waste. We can appreciate the brain drain but not brain waste. They are responsible for reduction in the innovation in the manufacturing. As on today no IT companies do challenging work needed for the world. They don%u2019t develop any products. Some reader, who has got short vision, may say that Infosys has Fincale and many banks use it. Finacle is used in banks not because of the innovative product based on their banking research. It is a cheap solution developed by coolie engineers graduated from great academic institutions, who don%u2019t have the brain. Really lots of challenging research problems is there in the IT. IT revolutionizes the way we live. All section of people can be benefited by the IT. But these cos. are not bothered. I would say IT companies and the government missed the opportunity of globalization. China strengthened their manufacturing base and now they add service to their economy. India has missed the opportunity to strengthen the manufacturing base. If there is any shift in economy manufacturing base can't be shifted immediately. But it is possible for the service.
RE:It is Good for India
by Bharath Ramaiah on Jul 25, 2007 05:38 PM Permalink
You are absolutly correct.Very few people in India understand that most of the IT companies in India do not even have a well known product.These companies only suply manpower and charge on an hourly basis in terms of USD wheras they pay their staff in Indian rupees.Now with the rupee appreciating, they are finding it tough to pay the salaries of their staff and at the same time maintian their profit margins which are usually more than 100%.My advice to the IT and ITES staff would be not to agree for working extra hours and at the same they should not agree for pay or increment cuts.These IT companies in India have enough reserves with them to sustain for the next one year.
For the first time I am seeing real correction happening. All these days Rupee was devaluated so badly by situation. The fat salaries of IT people should be reduced as follows. The people who are earning-- 25 Lacs should be reduced by 20 - 30 % 20 Lacs should be reduced by 15 - 25 % 15 Lacs should be reduced by 10 - 20 % 10 Lacs should be reduced by 8 - 15 % 8 Lacs should be reduced by 6 - 12 % 5 Lacs should be reduced by 3 - 6 % This will make Real estate to come down to reality, as of now real estate prices are unrealistic. THIS BUBBLE SHOUL BLOW. Common man should be able to take his own shelter.
This will balance the availabilty of money across different sections of people. This is a possitive growth.
The correct price of Rupee would be 20 - 25 Rupees to a Dollar
RE:The Balancing effect
by Rohit Mathur on Jul 25, 2007 12:50 PM Permalink
How in the world did u determine the correct price of Rupee!!!!! Ur deductions in salaries is also highly emotive and rational at all
RE:The Balancing effect
by Amiruddin K on Jul 25, 2007 08:06 PM Permalink
Look mahesh if you aer govt employee and not getting much salary as IT People then It's your fault.Why are you interested to reduce salary instead of working hard and try to get more salary.
RE:The Balancing effect
by Subhasis Das on Jul 25, 2007 02:55 PM Permalink
ALL people employed in government jobs should have their salaries reduced by 100%. they dont do any work anyway
RE:The Balancing effect
by Raja Das on Jul 25, 2007 02:52 PM Permalink
EXCELLENT Mahesh, I totally agree with You I don't think every TOM,DICK & HARRY should be getting such money
The article is a timely one & reflects the common man's concern. Regarding "With factors suggesting that the rupee could rise, we could see a scenario of an increasing percentage of goods and services being offered locally, which would lead to lower prices and hence curb inflation further" I feel the increased purchasing power of people will eventually lead to inflation. Consequent to the observation "Importers are benefitted" one cannot help doubting the existance of a racket. The sad part of stronger rupee is the likely job-shedding activitie by the companies.
