The Reservation issue is now totally boomeranged on the Political arena in our country, politicians using this as weapon to devide the people to their electoral benefits, It is shame on part of communities who are demanding the Backward Tag, Dr.Ambedkar was demanded Reservations for only 10 Years to bring those sections at par with others, but Now after 60 years also there is MAD RUSH to enlarge the reservation List. It is time the Supreme Court should put a full stop for all this DEVIDE & RULE GAME OF POLITICIANS, there should be reservation only Criteria should be ECONOMICAL CONDITION of any section of people, Politicians shunning all differences must SCRAP Existing Caste based reservations and bring new legislation making Economical condition only the base for reservation, this would be YEOMAN SERVICE they can render to this Great Country. VIJAYKUMAR PATIL.BANGALORE.
hey i do agree with most of the pople that caste based reservation should be completely abolished as there is no point in given reservation to those who dont use it for the past 50 yrs properly.
Its been more than 50 years since we got Independence and from that period onwards we are giving reservation to all the downtrodden .some utilized it ,some still dont.so we can keep contiuing this system for those minimal number of pople who haven't used it properly.
Politicans should do things for benefit of the country and not for increasing the vote bank.
Am not completely against SC/ST reservations. In my point of view, giving reservation to Backward class(BC,MBC,SC,ST) people is pretty good. For taking UG programmes, reservation quotas should be there, coz, we should give chance to all backward community people to take part(esp the poor ones). While coming to PG programmes like MBA, MS....reservation quotas should be abolished as soon as possible. The only thing govt having quota system is to give chance to the poor students who are unable to get good quality education (till 12th). Once they get good quality education in UG level...Y do they want quoto in doing PG. Only our marks should be considered n entering into PG programmes....Having UG n hand, any poor student can survive in this world. So, the government need not to lift them up again...so, quotas should be abolished. This will also increase the quality of education. Thereby, our Indian economy....Jai Hind.
RE:Reservation Blows
by Yazed Khan on Jun 07, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
Dear brother, I just do not want to comment on the basis of casteism as propunded in Hindu religion, 'coz, my knowledge is very limited, but as far as the reservation in Govt. Jobs is concerned, it should be immediately abolished as it prompts casteism in naked eyes. According to the Poona Pact signed, it was based on the dialogue to continue the reservation for 10 years after independence. But, now it has become the ace card of the dirty politicians to gain votes. Instead, can't they make it like the way that the downtroddens be given free of cost education to uplift theirselves? They won't do it 'coz if the society gains education, it will endanger their political fate. On the other hand, they always try to create subsections of the society to gather votes and create caste based or communal tensions which the common people don't understand and easily become the prey of the same. But since the reservation is implemented, no significant improvement among the downtroddens (not only the downtroddens, but the entire society taken as a whole) has been noticed as they still do not afford to have proper education to meet a certain criterion and apply for a job. When they strive hard each and every day to earn a piece of bread, how come they think of having education? Does the Govt. ever think of that? So, as a result a lot of seats are found to be vaccant and even others can't apply for and fill the same and little by little, the unemployment situation is becoming worst day after d
RE:Reservation Blows
by Yazed Khan on Jun 07, 2007 11:53 AM Permalink
day after day. It is a total injustice as being continued by the Govt. I really doubt the Govt. activities!! Are they really in favour of benevolence of the citizens? I doubt. The job Quotas in any form should be abolished immediately and the Govt. should treat all the citizens equally, if it really wants to see our Homeland a prosperous one.
Re: Reservation Blows
by sankar murmu on Sep 04, 2011 09:15 PM Permalink
I think you are very cleaver person. You talked about only things that suits your benefits :-). Good.
You are not favor of treating every human being equally. You want to justify this by Dharma. But you want to remove the reservation to make feel that every body is equally treated.
My friend please learn to love human beings if you are so attached to dharma.
If caste simply tied a man or women to a lowly job by birth, then there is no civilisation in the world that had not been as guilty. It has been argued that caste safeguarded jobs in Hinduism, but it can also be argued that the smithy or any other tradesman in the village of the Middle Ages England would have been in no way disadvantaged as his Hindu counterpart.
Where the two civilisations part company is in their pretentions. The Bhagavid Gita has been interpreted to sanction unequal treatment as is shown in the laws noted by Manu. Thus a grandiose claim to religious sanction became the custom for no reason than the incapacity for Hindu law to develop behond traditional practice. This is not a uniquely Hindu failing, a similar parallel has been drawn with the Shariat.
Western thought and practice is supported by the twin pillars of logic derived from Roman political ideals and law, and a Christian God who has made man his equal in rational thought. This made justice real and attainable in the Western world which reliance on customery Hindu law was never capable of achieving. This is evidenced in a celebrated case of a noble sentenced to death for the murder of his underling. Before their almighty creator, the smithy and servant is the equal of the noble himself. This will come as a disappointment to some Hindus which included Gandhi that the resurrection of traditional Hindu society would solve such failings. They little understand what law and politics entails.
RE:What Is Caste?
by Vikram B on Jun 07, 2007 05:28 AM Permalink
Sorry brother.. I did not understand anything.. was your posting related to this reservation topic??? or it was just a history lesson???
can you explian in more detail, what are you trying to say???
Reservation makes a joke of meritocracy. It was implemented as a temporary policy; never meant to be carried so far after independence. Why there is no absolute reservation in politics (like in education system, where they are always trying to ram a law for extra reservation). Beause it doesnt add value to the society. It's definitely a populist agenda which is not gonna benefit the society in long run. Reservation based on economic conditions should be considered (I dont know how it can be done impartially as how much a person owns cant be find easily especially in India).
I belong to upper caste but economically I was poor. My dad didn't get opportunity to study he desired solely b'cos of reservation. I saw many of friends who belong to SC/ST used to come to school in cars and I used ome on old bicycle. Despite not reservation and my low economic status I worked hard and got into medical school. You know immediately after finishing medical school I left to US as I hate India for being so unfair to me and people like me. INDIA CANNOT DEVELOP AS LONG AS THERE ARE GREEDY POLITICIANS. INDIA WILL REMAIN BACKWARD AS LONG AS THERE ARE RESERVATIONS. PEOPLE SHOULD WORK UP BY THEMSELVES IN A FAIR MARKET GOVT. SHOULD STOP SUPPRESSING FUTURE OF PEOPLE LIKE ME. I HATE INDIAN MENTALITY. COME ON GUYS AT LEAST CHANGE NOW OR ELSE YOU'LL REMAIN AS THIRD WORLD FOR EVER. tell me how much development in the past 5 years is due to reservation. I say none. Reservation degrade brains. Thank for reading.
RE:NRI view
by Vikram B on Jun 07, 2007 05:22 AM Permalink
You are a looser... Running away from the problem is not the solution.. If you knew what patriotism is, then you would have stayed in our country and would have tried to solve the problem..
India is our Mother Country.. Just because our mother has problems, we cant go and find new Mothers.
RE:NRI view
by Vikram B on Jun 07, 2007 06:13 AM Permalink
Even I am from a economically poor background, like you.. With all the hardwork, I have opened a small company now and I have provided equal emplyment oppurtunities, based on their skill-sets, irrespective of caste/economy etc etc.. We work as a team
I have plans to contribute more. or atleast I have the will to do more.
Even I had got many oppurtunities to run away from my mother country.. But i prefered to battle the problems.. I may br or may not be succesful.. but atleast i will try my best
You'll never get rid of the caste system by considering it as a basis for reservation. Affirmative action for education makes sense based on 2 criteria - children whose parents never went to school/college and those that cannot afford 2 meals a day. The fundamental issue is that India doesn't want to get rid of the caste system - the people, policies and government have not made a conscious effort to get rid of the system. When nobody wants to get rid of castes, these problems will never go away.
As long as there is discrimination based on caste in our society there will be always question about reservation.
I am from Upper Caste, I married (love) to a girl from Schedule Caste even after there was opposition from both families. Today, both families are happy and we are also enjoying our life with kids.
Every one should think on it and discrimination will go away in few decades.
RE:Removing Discrimination of CASTE system
by Vikram B on Jun 07, 2007 05:19 AM Permalink
you said, "you are from upper caste" - Why that discrimination ???? somewhere in some corner of your heart, you still have that discrimination.. first remove that..
coming back.. what are you trying to say?? are you asking everybody to do inter-caste marriage, so that reservation problem will be solved??
Think big... think about the country.. your personal example is not the solution..
One good thing is that, Your love story is succesful.. I am happy for that.. despite all problems, you have made your love success.. best of luck
