In my opinion any reservation on the basis of caste or creed is wrong. Some sort of reservation for STs and SCS were required in the beginning to uplift them from their pitiable conditions,but it should have been dispensed with by now.Todays' reservations are nothing but political game. These have nothing to do with upliftment. It is rather being used to perpetuate the superiority by those in the reserved categories whose fore fathers availed it in the beginning. Thats why there is opposition to exclusion of creamy layers and so on. Even if after60 years of independence you can't change the fate of some castes by their inclusion in some categories or other, what's the guarantee it will change in another 100 years. Now it has become a tool to expoit the people.Only incentive to be given to really needy should be in the form of financial assistance.Poors are in every caste. Only numbers may vary. This sort of reservstions which we are following is creating only resentment and violence.
if the person who had got admission in any medical college on the basis of reservation they should mention it in their name board. for eg Kotaval Chavady M.B.B.S ( got medicine admission on the basis of sc reservation).will they be ready or will the idiot arjun singh enforce that. why should they play with common man's life
RE:RESERVATION
by Jeya Shree on Jun 04, 2007 06:34 PM Permalink
hello gentle man, can you tell why do you add IYER with your name. Is that your education degree. You should not talk about country development. yourself making country back
RE:RESERVATION
by Anand Iyer on Jun 04, 2007 06:37 PM Permalink
Hello I was forced to have this surname cos of my family. Yes my grand father was a pandit and i am also trined in it. Cos one day because of this reservation i will have to go for priest job. even in our sorry state of Tamil Nadu we have reservationn in that also.
RE:RESERVATION
by Jeya Shree on Jun 04, 2007 06:41 PM Permalink
you can do that job without iyer name also. name is the only criteria to do that job. May be you will have some special quality/talent for that job. i don't think name is needed for that.. Country never develop for another 50 yrs, I am sorry friend
RE:RE:RESERVATION
by Anand Iyer on Jun 04, 2007 06:39 PM Permalink
above all i am proud to say that and i am iyer and brought up in a cultured family and need not beg for reservation.
My view point in this regard is there should not be any reservation for SC and ST. Because the effort one person is putting for his/her carrer will go waste. i know we have to encourage the SC/ST to study at par with others. We can provide then certain aids so that they will be interested towards higher education. The fund govt. is assigning towards the devlopment is is reducing as it is moving from one level to another. But getting something at the cost of loosing somthing is really foolishness. Some day will come when there will be riots against the reservations and then what to do with that situation .Summarising this i would like to say that there should not be any reservation system which will differieciate one human being from other as well as communal fillings.
I think, we should give the country to Mayawathi who is great leader to collect SC/ST and bhramins(may be different caste but higher caste). I means hse knows better than any other leader about country development. That is why she has come to power. Let us leave the problem to the great Mayawathi ji
RE:Mayawathi
by vishal sharma on Jun 05, 2007 12:46 AM Permalink
remember she got only 13% of castable votes. Most of these voters obviously had no other meaningful job to do.
RE:Resevation beggers
by ravi on Jun 04, 2007 06:26 PM Permalink
Thats what happened to Gujjars. given OBC they are asking for ST. If you give ST, they ask for prime monstership and presidential candidate.
If you give those they will ask for IIT Gujjar, IIM Gujjar IISc Gujjar, but not a Gujjar battellion. Who wants to die man bu joining army! Not in research as well. Tooo less money there man!
2. My children are schoolgoing (senior classes) and are likely to be adversely affected by reservations in the near future.
3. Yet, I support resrvations as a good way to correct past wrongs and help the downtrodden to come up on the social and financial ladder.
4. Until the private sector ( accounting for 80% of jobs now) comes out and accepts its social responsibilty), the GOI has no option but todo its bit from whatever resources it commands.
RE:reservations are justified
by SunilKumar De on Jun 05, 2007 10:12 AM Permalink
Strange ? You have not used the term "Upper caste" to explain yourself ??????
I STRONGLY ADVOCATE TO REMOVE THE CASTE SYSTEM FROM INDIA, WHICH CREATED LOT OF PROBLEMS IN HISTORY AND IT IS CONTINUING.
1. GOVERNMENT, EDUCATIONAL DEPARTMENTS SHOULD NOT ASK FOR CASTE INFORMATION IN THE FORMS, CERTIFICATES ETC. 2. EXISTING CASTE INFORMATION COLLECTED FROM THE INDIVIDUAL SHOULD BE DELETED FOREVER FROM THE DATA BASE. 3. CANCEL THE RESERVATION POLICY BASED ON CASTE AND DRAFT A POLICY TO ENSURE THAT THE POOR ARE REALLY BENEFITTED. 4. IMPLEMENT PROGRAMS TO ENCOURAGE INTER-CASTE MARRIAGES, PURGING CROSS-CULTURAL DIFFERENCES, ALLOCATE A PORTION OF THE BUDGET FOR THIS PURPOSE. 5. BRING AN ACT TO ABOLISH CASTE SYSTEM AND BRING THIS AS A SUBJECT IN THE TEXT BOOKS FOR CHILDREN.
If the caste based reservation is removed, the caste based politics will die on its own.
RE:Reservation
by Jeya Shree on Jun 04, 2007 06:22 PM Permalink
friend, Please understand the concept of reservation. Then talk about financial condition.
RE:Reservation
by Akansha Agrawal on Jun 04, 2007 06:27 PM Permalink
That is exactly it! The concept on which it is based is absolutely wrong.It SHOULD be based on financial condn.Do you really think that the child of an IAS officer need reservation??????? I don't think so.Their parents can very well afford it.It is the "creamy layer" that is being protested against, and not the idea of having reservation.
RE:Reservation
by Jeya Shree on Jun 04, 2007 06:30 PM Permalink
Please let me know, how doest it affect higher caste people. It must be taken care by those community. It is not other people business. what do you think
RE:Reservation
by Jitendra Gadhave on Jun 04, 2007 07:35 PM Permalink
Jeya Shree wants reservations after reservation though self and kids performed just to pass. What is problem with general category? only one seat they are wasting. (there are many like Jeya Shree around 85% indian population). They want reservation on the name of poor scst who actually needs reservation. But they will not get any since Jeya Shree and family will benifit of it and others will remain poor and illiterate to make Jeya Shree and family rich and wealthy. Jeya Shree says general people are wealthy. How can such stupid statement can be made. Does all earning >= 50 Thousand are general category and
in my view reservation should be there but these reservation should be for the people who were backward in the income in all casts and religion like Sc, ST, BC, and Forward Castes also who were upper middle caste.
RE:Regarding the Reservation
by Jeya Shree on Jun 04, 2007 06:24 PM Permalink
friend, can you tell me why do collect all caste. Let us remove caste. Then easy
RE:Regarding the Reservation
by Nilamkumar Jadav on Jun 04, 2007 07:06 PM Permalink
ask your family and your society for this what they are saying about this and then check whether some of your friends are of that mind or not.
RE:Regarding the Reservation
by mughal on Jun 04, 2007 07:01 PM Permalink
I dont believe in any caste....but what the f**k makes u to support reservation
RE:RE:Regarding the Reservation
by vishal sharma on Jun 05, 2007 12:55 AM Permalink
how to remove the caste, when an intellectual???? like you is supporting caste based reservation
RE:Regarding the Reservation
by viya kumari on Jun 05, 2007 01:38 AM Permalink
give one way of changing the cheap mentality of cstisim in the unchanging and unscientific thinkig of people who assess people only on th basis of caste only???????
Constitutionally, some economically weak sections of the caste categories were given job reservations which could probably be partially or little implemented. Now the governments want to implement this guarantee given to them which are being strongly opposed by other sections, say forward category of people.
Centuries old caste barrier has to be erased from the society and well being of each and every weak section is a necessary criteria.
Simply because the reservation is guaranteed in the constitution should not be helpful to alleviate the grievances of such weak people, as this is now half a century old vision.
A duration of 20 to 25 years (i.e. one generation) should be fixed for this purpose. The government must give free and fair education to all such SC and SC and in deserving cases to OBC and/or the so called forward castes. Whatever expenses are needed must be earmarked in the budget. The education should be in such a way that when one completes his education, he/she must be able to compete in the open category. Free compulsory education is over for one generation, the freeness should be stopped and that person must not get any form of reservation for job. No Indian should be asked to privide his/her caste till one gets a job. By this way the reservation system can be eliminated and all will be capable of competing in the open category.
RE:Reservation
by ravi on Jun 04, 2007 06:19 PM Permalink
Will never happen. Our politicians need beggers. They all want us to remain beggers so that they will have high level meetings help at our money and will provide us pie nuts.
Where is the planning for 10-15-20 years down the lane? Its not there in any sector.
Begging is like a drug. I remember one of my hostelmate said in bengali something means:
IF YOU GIVE A BEGGER FOOD, HE WILL BEG FOR BED TO SLEEP AND THEN BEG FOR A HOUSE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH
