Its failure to achieve the target for 60 years itself shows that these are not the appropriate means to achieve either development in underprivileger or equality among all.I've never seen any pro-reservation supporter giving genuine reason. They either show the history or the poor among lower castes(Poverty does exist in upper castes also).Any support should be based on genuine reasons like economy, physical status that too till an extent to which the nation will not suffer.
Recently when i was enquiring about chances for getting a seat for one of my friend's children the guide told tme this:
," since this child had so little resources and still has got a rank of 24,000 the chances tha the will do well is very high. "
Apparently her friend's child had got a rank of 12,000. And she considered this 1st boy's ability to study and be motivated much higher than her friend's son. The first child 's father was a manual labourer in a factory , the mother uneducated, and living condidiotns were much below average.
Wheras the 2nd child's parents were both engineers, lived with all the luxury . He was given special entrance coaching etc.
Consideration has to be given to such underpriviiged children. Though this does not convey anything about SC/ ST reservation, it ia a fact that SC/ST continues to be a part of the underprivileged.
But i 'll tell u this also.It was only when i went to learn astrology did i understand , reservation or no reservation a person who is destined to become a doctor becomes a doc, and that an engineer , an engineer, an architect, an architect.
But we ahve to argue about something. So lets all argue.
RE:underprivilged .....destiny
by Vivek Srivastava on Jun 05, 2007 08:39 AM Permalink
I think you are absolutely right. btw how are you, and what are you doing this evening.
im not against reservation if it'll benifit for wom it belong to.it is started with different mind set but as time passes it takes a very ugly face(not only in education/job but in each and every system)for eg.relatives of physically challenged person uses benifit but it will not help that paricular person .i know some of good citizen of india having a fake cerificate just to travel in ac couch with discount.
How can a person manage a job if he is not able to do it naturally?(when he is given a reserved seat). Shall all his service recepients suffer because of his inefficiency? Shall he work for filling his stomach or for being a part of regular business activities?(which should be run with able staffs)
1 - India is said to be a non communal nation in its constitution then how can the POLITICIANS justify the concept of reservation on CASTE basis. 2 - Anyway its 60 years now since reservation is implemented. Do we see any improvement in the society? How long will it continue? Does the answer of this question is that till all the so called high caste needs reservation again. 3 - I feel that India is soon going to end up with CIVIL WAR between its various communities. The GURJJAR violence is just the begining. Very soon we will hear the voices from other segments of the community. 4 - It is very sad to destroy the property of the nation for the cause of raising your personal demands. Dont you think they should be punished? 5 - What I personally feel that for so called high caste ie Brahmin, Vaishya and Thakurs, it is better to leave India and search for better life somewhere else, as nowhere in the world such a NONSENSE policy is thers.
RE:What is the concept of reservation
by Pankaj on Jun 05, 2007 10:26 AM Permalink
I have a issue with point 5.....Is it not a escapist attitude. The so called Higher Castes Want to run just because they are feeling a little heat. Why doennt the High priests of Hindus declare that what Manu said was wrong and that all the writings of Manu do not belong to Hinduism.They have to also declare that all the religious texts advocating the varna system are wrong and ppl who advocated them are not to be banished from Hinduism. This should be the first step towards a casteless India
i am againest the reservation on caste r communities,
i support the reservation based on the Economic status, even in this case thay have to get support from the Govt for their education only if he is capable or eligible for it, not just push him even if he is a dumb,
instead of making them dependent on the reservations, educate them to became a self depaendent,
removing the caste reservation is a way to destrroy the castism in india, if there is no caste column in the school joining form, than think how somebody knows about your caste,
Re: I am againest the...
by New York on May 20, 2009 11:17 PM Permalink
Casteism and Reservations will prevail in India **till** 85% of all registered marriages are inter-caste.
In my opinion this cast based reservation should be eleminate from this India, because it is stopping us to reaching our goal for Developped India. Instead of this there should be economy based reservation and if u r giving cast based reservation then, there should be policy that if one family get benefit from this then that family's next generation should not get that benefit, so that other person in that category can take benefit of this. thus we can improve our backward casts to forward and can give chance every one poor or back ward. Politics should not play with this cast based reservation for there Vote Bank policy. they should take strong steps to improve india, and society.
There were 5 responses including mine. 3 are for reservation based on economic conditions, 1 for no reservation and 1 for time bound reservation. I think the same trend will be reflected on a bigger pole. More schools and colleges for studies at all levels and disciplines, economic support to the needy and shifting of preference to non-government jobs - will solve the problem in less than one generation i.e. about 20 years. Bur our politicians will not allow this to happen. Castes become irrelevant if the economic conditions and educational levels are high.
RE:RE:Reservation poll
by rajani kanth on Jun 05, 2007 05:49 AM Permalink
I agree with you Sampath. To be true, the only person who is utilising this reservation system is only "POliticians". It is neither reaching to the real SC/ST people. With my personal experience I am telling this, 3 seats out of the 6 seats that were reserved for SC/ST in our class were joined by non SC/ST's. And everyone knows that in our class. They used to get the scholorships also even without paying the fees. Actaully one of the 3 person's father is the MRO of our city.
These durty politicians are utilising this reservation system and it is useless to others. Only one way to remove the reservation system is to dilute it. Put each & every caste into the SC/ST/OBC so that there will be large competetion among themselves.
There are many instances in india now a days where the person getting the benefit of reservation is the offspring of some high ranked official and the person NOT getting it hails from a poor family of general category. So the reservation required now a days should be foe economic upliftment and NOT for any particular caste. And yes, if any particular caste/community is ECONOMICALLY BACKWARD, they'll automatically become the beneficiaries of the reservation policy based on their economic conditions.
Reservation was introduced in India to improve certain sections of indian society.But enough is enough.It is now a political game. Remove reservation and improve india.Give reservation based on economic criteria not caste.So called sc/sts is just a fake projection,they are enjoying their lives without hard work.Improve India by removing reservation.
