Many or I say every Indian IT company fake the resume of their employee to get big deal from foriegn client. Big IT companies shows standard CV of selected employees till the order is received. Once the order is received the work is given to freshers where he work 24X7 and then same CV is use to get another order from another client. I request National Skill Registery that before checking the CV of employee better check with employer for faking the CV of their own employee.
Hi everybody, One question to the company HRs. Do they follow ethics? Every company offer letter is confidential beteen the company and the employee. The companies are asking the previous company offer/appointment letter. How can company ABC take the confidential letter of company XYZ? It is illegal to have other company's confidential documents in your company's HR cabins. Do you thinks company's are following ethics here. If they don't follow do you think they have right to remove those who "doctored" their CV? I think ethics are to teach to other not to follow
RE:Do they have moral right ?
by S Anand on Feb 21, 2007 08:39 PM Permalink
Another point about HR ethics. The HRs in our Indian companies hit the roof if one of their own employees resing in a short notice. Lot of fundas are given about work etchis, professionalism etc. But when someone from another office applies to their own companies and says he/she wants more time to join as they have some notice period, it is the same HRs who push all their tall talk about ethics and professionalism to the back seat and make an offer saying quit anf join immediately, we will pay your notice period amount. Well if you can buy someone be prepared for the fact that the same person can be bought by others also!!! The word Human Resources itself seems to be a oxymoron. Humans are not supposed to be resources. There is always lectures that "equipments can be replaced but not people" but equipments in an office are in most cases treated better than people.
RE:Do they have moral right ?
by annapoorna pandit on Feb 21, 2007 07:28 AM Permalink
Yes. You are right. Most of the people just talk about ethics but not follow ethics. People who would have lost job due to faking CVs might have followed ethics through out and just this would be a single mistake and they have to face the problem due to this single mistake.
If companies are firing people for faking CVs, they must fire those also who recruited them, because while recruiting such people, those HR people were not responsible enough. If seniors can make crimes why not a junior?
Our entire industry is a fake. Tell me one people who have not faked up his CV/biodata,data,details anytime?tell me a software company where they did not faked employee resume, internal data to get clients?
RE:our entire industry is fake
by Kaushik Das on Feb 21, 2007 01:17 AM Permalink
Me. The entire industry is not a fake but there are quite a few dirty fish here.
Guys, it is an accepted fact that the work profile of the glorified IT engineers is simply that of coders, to wit, refer to the TOI article of 18/2. The majority of the jobs do not call for any engineering or MCA qualifications and can well be done by an HSC with some training. It is in their vested interests and to artificially create a certain privileged status that the IT companies call for qualifications more fit for a professor!
As is very clear, the companies themselves are notabove faking the resumes of their employees in order to get lucrative orders from abroad. Thus, it is a case of the kettle calling the pot black. When it is in the interests of our so called honest and honourable companies such misdemeanours are considered essential business tactics for furthering the business but, in the case of the poor potential/working employee these selfsame companies are indignant when he/she pads up their resume's for furthering their careers! indeed, strange or, not so strange, since we have been conditioned to think that whatever Narayanamoorthy/Kiran Karnik et al spout has to be the unwarnished gospel.
Forget about the issue and if you want a realistic way to fake your CV go to Fakeresume.com. It gives you the complete lowdown on doing this creatively and what is more, seemingly truthfully.
In a convoluted, fake world if we are going to nitpick about the acceptability or otherwise of something as simple as faking a CV well, I can tell you, there is no percentage!! to our well being.
RE:Fake CVs and Fake Resumes
by Kaushik Das on Feb 21, 2007 01:21 AM Permalink
"The majority of the jobs do not call for any engineering or MCA qualifications and can well be done by an HSC with some training." I disagree. It's not that simple. There is something called logical thinking which most non-engg graduates lack - which is why they are non-engg graduates, boss. Barring exceptions, why should it take a potential software engineer to complete their graduation and THEN think about software? Note: Most PROFESSORS will not be able to work in IT companies. It's NOT that easy. Professors lack application skills although they have knowledge.
RE:RE:Fake CVs and Fake Resumes
by Ajitesh Bhowmick on Feb 21, 2007 10:35 AM Permalink
Hey Kaushik.... dont forget BILL GATES!! a non-engg graduate still he made it!! and just getting a degree of engineering dont proove he is logical minded but may be it prooves he is a studios kind a guy!! so dont give any conclusion on ur own :)
RE:RE:RE:Fake CVs and Fake Resumes
by S Anand on Feb 21, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
Nice to talk and give examples about. When Microsoft gives ad for requirement do they give wanted Graduates with x years of experience or do they give wanted drop outs with logical thinking?? Bill gates is a drop out man but drop outs are not Bill Gates !!
I felt very bad to read that you learned so called intelligent, cream peopple do such chori.... And u ppl say Indi is not a good country.... Pehle apni tat* dho ke aao phir dusro ka dekho
There may be multiple reasons for IT people to fake their resumes.
Recruitment is at its high now, but look at some 3-4 years back when companies recruit margianlly and people who completed their studies by that time could not get a job as freshers. Every company expects only experienced (minimum 2 years)..Where they will go for gaining that first 2 years of experience. i have seen people with MCA/BE working in schools/colleges/IT institutes and teaching CSC. When the industry started recovering those people started moving into the industry. If they show that they were teaching and not programming companies will not shortlist them. So obviously they end up faking their resumes to enter the industry.
I think there is no harm in it. if those people are able to cope up with the industry demand then it should be acceptable. What otherwise those people would have done..continue with the same job with salary not enough even to cater their basic needs.
companies instead of simply firing should look into the causes of faking...if people faked degrees then they can take action immediately. but if it is experience companies should analyse the reasons behind it and should handle sensitively.
i am working in IT industry and i have seen many companies fake their employees resume to show the client and get projects. They do that because they dont have people with exp. in that technology but want to get the project. where did keep their dignity/integrity and all other qualities then. They just want to be in business, in simple terms they just want to make money...they have put their honesty behind and doing it...Once the company grew to a certain level got the reputation then they would stop doing it. How this is acceptable
Why dont they think that for this same reason, people are also doing/did it.
If all clients (who are giving projects) to our so called "prestigious Top 10 companies", do a thorough back ground check on these companies and their past records, no IT company would exist in India...
RE:Companies should look back themselves
by Para Mesh on Feb 20, 2007 08:53 PM Permalink
Raja,
Let us not get moralistic. What is good for the goose is obviously not good for the gander. The bane of Indian Society is the holier than thou attitude that a powerful entity, in this case the IT industry, always adopts vis-a-vis vulnerable subordinates, the poor aspiring employee.
RE:RE:Companies should look back themselves
by Kaushik Das on Feb 21, 2007 01:24 AM Permalink
But does the employee, whose resume is being faked by the company, object??? :-)
RE:Companies should look back themselves
by sam on Feb 20, 2007 06:07 PM Permalink
I do agree with you.. You are absouletely right. If companies start showing true CV's to their client.. very few companies will survive in india.. Companies are the one who fake most of the resumes more thant anybody else???
RE:Companies should look back themselves
by Vamsi Nath on Feb 20, 2007 09:04 PM Permalink
Hi.. This is very good explanation which I feel too.. How can the companies expect 2 or 3 exp people when 2 or 3 years back the technology itself was not existing and about the recession in the industry during the peroid 2001-04.
RE:Companies should look back themselves
by Para Mesh on Feb 21, 2007 02:51 AM Permalink
Digest this. The almighty Infy, in its wisdom, recently dropped the clause in its recruitment advertisements where, it insisted on the aspiring candidates possessing an outstanding academic record throughout his/her career. Given most of the job profile in this industry, a moron with an HSC given some training should be able to comfortably cope with the requirements of the coding jobs that constitute 90% of the work. It is old marketing conundrum, the demand and supply matrix, when the demand situation is pitched unrealistic to the ground situation, the supply potential stretches itself to meet such a fake demand. Ergo, you have fake claimants seeking to satisfy the extant fake demands. If the company wants a candidate with knowledge of all the in demand software metrics, with 3 years experience in all of these to boot, the clever chap fakes his resume and claims all the qualifications advertised for. He knows very well that the person interviewing him also has no idea of most of them. He essentially sells himself.
i think using fake CV is wrong but also company should not fire bcoz they hire them after several round the just check there residential identity family history and their certificates and give him warning.
i strictly condemn the act of facking the CV.. it is spoiling the career of another individual.. but even though i never done this but i dint get a job because i am a b.com graduate with 12 years of Production based IT experience.... i don't do facking but people like who are not getting jobs may do this for survival
