Finally, someone presents the most important point behind India's exit.
Granted, we did not play to our potential. It does not warrant elimination after just one game. The idea behind the process of elimination (even the idea of world cup) is to choose 4 best teams to go through semi-final to battle each other. Remember here! The idea is to find the 4 "best" teams. Every team thinks they are the best, so the only way to find out if they all play against each other.
Even math teaches us better than to have just 1 or 2 bad games decide the outcome of the groups. The very first rule of statistics and sampling is to have "BIG ENOUGH" sample to rule our "flukes".
Just based on one game, it is decided that Ireland is better team than Pakistan; and Bangladesh is better team than India. Almost everyone in world except for people from Ireland and Bangladesh knows that's not true.
Let's for the sake of argument say, India plays 10 games agaist Bangladesh. I think, given that Bangladesh has improved a bit, the results will be India 8 wins - Bangladesh 2 wins. It just so happened that one of those 2 loses happened to be in the prelim. group match.
Many people are saying India did not advance because they lost to Sri Lanka, when they should have won. Not so fast, I say. There is no shame in losing to Sri Lanka. I think 10 games between India-Sri Lanka would go 5-5, so it's fine. So, we only had one bad game to put us out of world cup. NOT FAIR!
South Africa lost to Australia, England lost to New Zealand. There were always going to be 4 good teams losing to 4 other teams in respective groups. So, it's not India losting to Sri Lanka or Pakistan losing to West Indies that put them out of the world cup. It's their ONE BAD DAY that did them in.
And statistically speaking, no matter how you churn the butter, ONE BAD DAY IS NOT A BIG ENOUGH SAMPLE TO DUB INDIA (and Pakistan, for that matter) AS A BAD TEAM!
RE:Finally!
by Raman on Mar 28, 2007 01:49 AM Permalink
If that was the case,then South Africa who loose so narrowly every time by a TIE or Rain Rule would never accept their elimination
Just dont be such a bad loser,we talk about Aussies being bullies,now talking like this Bindra is trying to bully ICC,where was he when the rules were first made.
RE:Finally!
by Manan Patel on Mar 28, 2007 04:53 AM Permalink
I get your points, but I had said the same thing when Pakistan lost to Ireland (A few hours BEFORE India lost to Bangladesh. And mind you, when India lost, India weren't out of the cup, Pakistan was)
What I am saying is, even then, assuming India would make it through, and only Pakistan being the Big Gun out of the cup, I said that the format is wrong for a big team to be out based on one bad game against a team like Ireland.
Moreover, what's even more interesting that all these people that are jumping with excitment because Bangladesh and Ireland "deserves" to be in super 8 would really get a slap on the face when they don't win any one of their 6 games, and in turn making it a SUPER 6.
So, what's more interesting? 8 good teams fighting for Semi-Final birth?
or
6 good teams and 2 "so called good-because they had one good game" teams making a complete mess of the points table in super 8 stage?
RE:Finally!
by anuj sharma on Mar 27, 2007 11:40 PM Permalink
1.) Do you know the meaning of do or die? 2.) How long world cup should run a year or two may be?
RE:Finally!
by Raman on Mar 28, 2007 01:46 AM Permalink
Well said,just Imagine if Pak or SLanka got elimated instead of India then will Bindra talk like this or will these fans say that the format was wrong?
RE:Finally!
by abhi on Mar 27, 2007 10:34 PM Permalink
this happens in football. Czech republic which was ranked 2nd in the world was eliminated in first round of last year's soccer world cup. it is unfortunate and though i don't agree with the format, you have to accept the fact that not all good teams get eliminated in the format.
