Indian fans, they just love cricket but i am ashamed they just don't know cricket. They don't know that its a game played by 11 players supported by a coaching staff, They don't know that captain is the one calling the shots on the field , they don't know that no matter what a captain plans ultimatly its the players who have to execute it on the field. If Australia wins that does not only shows that ponting is a good captain but it shows that Australia as a team is superb with a good leader at its helm. As cricket is a team game there are lots of dependencies and thus cursing one guy for a defeat is never justified . I think when ponting took over from waugh , ponting was one of the most terrible captains but still his team never lost just because his team was so good that they could easly execute any startergy. Whereas if you have a look at newzeland they have only one skipper for i don know since when . stephen fleming is a terrific captian , even though his team never performed that well in the late 90s and early 2000 still he was retained as captian. i just want to say that winning or loosing is not caused by any one person it needs a collective effort of the whole team, so we should not blame one guy for this loss.Agreed Dravid made some mistakes but then everyone else does it too even the best of captains make mistakes but they get over shadowed when the team wins . If you are talking about comparison between 2003 and 2007 then you must remember that it was not only ganguly's captaincy that won us the matches , sachin's batting , our pace attack, even our fielding with yuvi and kaif being there was exellent .. Atleast i am suer dravid would have never asked anyone to play badly.. if sachin made a duck this time around and at the same time yuvi got runout and dhoni played such a sick stroke then I don't think any captain in the world could have done anything. So guys stop blaming anyone , its all created by media to keep people busy with this shit ..We should agree it was a collective failure of the team and captain is included in it .
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by amitdyuti sengupta on Apr 10, 2007 11:22 PM Permalink
You forgetting Hansie Cronje! Post-Cronje SA was almost lost in wilderness....Moral: Captain are no dummies they are generals who can change teh course of game/war.
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by joydip bhattacharya on Apr 10, 2007 03:01 PM Permalink
yes , even after that a good capatain can lead a charged teh team and defend a total of 191 against Bangladesh....that is where captaincy matters..........If we don't have a good team then does not mean taht when we will not give a chance to a good capatain when we all know he is much better captain then our existing captain.........Captaincy makes a lot of difference when a team is chasing a small total.............We all know Ganguly is much better captain then Dravid , but we are not giving him a chance as many of Cricket Pundits in India don't want to see him regaining the captaincy ..as it will mean victory of Ganguly........
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by vansh kapil on Apr 10, 2007 03:14 PM Permalink
No doubt ganguly was a good captain but i dont agree that dravid is bad.. It was under him only that india won 17 matches chasing and test series again west indies etc ... so when the same team was performing we were winning under him too and it was looking so bright at that time. As far as defending 191 is concerned may be dravid missed a trick or 2 but how will you justify bhajji not picking a single wicket in 10 overs. Had we lost by 1 or 2 wickets I would have agreed that dravid failed to kill but when your 4 main bowlers are not able to get any wickets then I wonder what a captain could have done .. He might have missed a few tricks but at the asme time our bowlers and fielders also didnt made it easy for him. I hope u ll agree that bang batsmen are no special that we needed any spl captaincy for them still out bowlers cudnt make any impression on them ... again its every ones loss, skipper included.
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by Anurag Srivastava on Apr 10, 2007 11:34 PM Permalink
World cup is ultimate failure. Remember 1-4 loss to mediocre westindies, 1st round exit in Champions trophy (wicket of seaming so failure of our great stroke players is understandable), 0-4 loss to S. Aftrica. They somehow win in India against mediocre WIndies and depleted S. Lanka (no Murali and Vaas) in tight finishes. And above all they were our stroke players totally flat wickets. If you give our Dhonis and co. Vizag, Kochi kind of wickets then still they can beat all teams most of the time. Overrated batters, wrong selections, too much commercials, spineless captaincy were some of the reasons of the failures. Our expectation was another mistake as we did not analyze past (1 year) performances of the team. Ofcourse captain is very important person in cricket team's results and history and experts can give you examples.
