Dravid is the only player in cricketing history who can be ambassador of Indian cricket..Those who don't agree don't understand cricket....Only Karnataka can save and represent India at all fronts
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by Raichand on May 02, 2007 12:41 AM Permalink
Suman you are right that Dravid is the best captain but here in this message you are wrong..
For Your Information.. DRAVID is not a Karnatiki. Basically he is a Maharashtrian.
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by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 09:26 AM Permalink
put msgs only pertaining to cricket not about players as an individual. state/language/religion/foodhabits etc,... I am posting msgs from almost a year and abusive response to my msgs do not apply to me. Buz i have very good life by the grace of God. If ganguly fans abuse other players it is not considered as rubbish. If anyone put the anti ganguly msgs it becomes abusive and some ganguly fans start posting some filthy msgs
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by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 09:28 AM Permalink
Dravid is Tamilian but play for k'taka Blor has 65% outsiders. ppl from all other states have settled in country. Paknaj advani is marathi but represents the K;taka billiards association b'cuz he family settled in Blr.
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by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 11:13 AM Permalink
RE:Good they dropped Sachin and Saurav from the One Day Team! by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 09:24 AM | Hide message team did not win all matches when gangly was captian. team had lost in 1st round in champions trophy in 2004 in england and all out for lowest score 56 all out against kiwis. ganguly is not supporting dravid or team when sachin captain ganguly did same thing with ajay jadeja and other senior players. team lost and sachin forced to resign. now ganguly is doing same thing. He will score runs but make sure team will be defeated...to prove dravid not good captain and his record of captancy succes won't harm. but sachin and dravid gave 100% commitment when ganguly was captian. take out ut sachin and dravid's contributions ganguly success will be lowest. Except Ausses no other team won consistantly... all the teams have ups and downs but team won test and odis under dravid captaicy withoout ganguly. dravid is better captain than ganguly. b'cuz captaincy pressure did not afftect his batting. but diff in odi winning is only 1% and
RE:Dravid is the best
by Suman Bhat on May 01, 2007 08:53 PM Permalink
Mr. saxena it is the msg posted by ganguly fan . some ppl do not like to mention dada's dadagiri. they will start posting personal/ absuive msgs. everybody has freedom to post msgs but those who have no self resptct will post some rubbish Sinci i did not post this msg ask questions to ganguly fan indian/rahulnanda/AB/ facelessspirit/satydevgowda/anurag ria/us/indrnilgupta/anirudda don't how many names the person has I don't respond such personal/regional abusive msgs b'cuz it does not apply to me a bit By the grace of god , i have good life I am an NRI from Blr u might get more such msgs in coming days pls ask the qs to that person who realy impersonation my name If bangalis support ganguly, mubbaikar supprt sachin, delhites support sewag, punjabies support yuvraj, if bangalorans support dravid what is wrong with it How it comes biased. this is msg of person called who posted rubbish by mentioning jai karantak idli dosa !!!!!!!
If u want answer agaisnt my comments pls watch the recoreded coverge of 3 games u will realise who were responsible for WC debacle. I have never mention idli, dosa, karanktak or bangos etc... Also answerur questions first to urself whichever place u belong to good day Mrs suman
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by Sharad Saxena on May 01, 2007 09:00 PM Permalink
Mrs suman, Since u have not posted this message ,pls ignore my reply and I feel sorry for my message but I can not continue with this forum anymore
Bye all my forum friends, this is my last message in this forum
RE:Dravid is the best
by Suman Bhat on May 01, 2007 09:23 PM Permalink
I put msgs only pertaining to cricket not about players as an individual. state/language/religion/foodhabits etc,... I am posting msgs from almost a year and abusive response to my msgs do not apply to me. Buz i have very good life by the grace of God. If ganguly fans abuse other players it is not considered as rubbish. If anyone put the anti ganguly msgs it becomes abusive and some ganguly fans start posting some filthy msgs.
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by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 10:12 AM Permalink
I put msgs only pertaining to cricket not about players as an individual. state/language/religion/foodhabits etc,... I am posting msgs from almost a year and abusive response to my msgs do not apply to me. Buz i have very good life by the grace of God. If ganguly fans abuse other players it is not considered as rubbish. If anyone put the anti ganguly msgs it becomes abusive and some ganguly fans start posting some filthy msgs.
RE:Dravid is the best
by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 10:08 AM Permalink
ganguly fan . some ppl do not like to mention dada's dadagiri. they will start posting personal/ absuive msgs. everybody has freedom to post msgs but those who have no self resptct will post some rubbish Sinci i did not post this msg ask questions to ganguly fan indian/rahulnanda/AB/ facelessspirit/satydevgowda/anurag ria/us/indrnilgupta/anirudda don't how many names the person has I don't respond such personal/regional abusive msgs b'cuz it does not apply to me a bit By the grace of god , i have good life I am an NRI from Blr u might get more such msgs in coming days pls ask the qs to that person who realy impersonation my name If bangalis support ganguly, mubbaikar supprt sachin, delhites support sewag, punjabies support yuvraj, if bangalorans support dravid what is wrong with it How it comes biased. this is msg of person called who posted rubbish by mentioning jai karantak idli dosa !!!!!!!
If u want answer agaisnt my comments pls watch the recoreded coverge of 3 games u will realise who were responsible for WC debacle. I have never mention idli, dosa, karanktak or bangos etc... Also answerur questions first to urself whichever place u belong to good day Mrs suman
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by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 10:42 AM Permalink
dravid captaincy is good like ganguly's it is senior players did not support him druing WC read article in cricinfo By S rajesh see the analysis of batsman. it is not bolwers or captain batsman failed to deliver when team required. many players like ganguly, sachin harbajan, zahir undermine dravid's captaincy. ganguly batting only for self he socred runs consistantly but never tried to accelerate run rate or rotate strike always savinghis wkt if team win or loss did not matter he scored runs but he gave more runs to opposition b'cuz of poor fielding. cost team some more runs of poor running between wkt. and sachin being VC failed with bat. Body language of 2 ex captains in 3 matches as if they were playing a practice match. Harbajan never bolwed to his natural stength. b'cuz he thought his cpatian is ganguly but herbajan latest achievement is that he was informed by ICC twice by his wrong action. dhoni is failed in WI and SA he scored runs only in dead ptices of subcontinent. Dinesh karthck is better than dhoni he opened innings and won 20 -20 match in SA . can bat any no.... and since munaf was in playig XI, dravid couldnot play sreesant. After sachin's return from injury from during DLF cup onwards, sachin was doing bowling 6-8 overs regularly and there is no place for 5th bowler. Cheif selector insistied that shachin is also used as bowler. till the DLF cup team won many odis and test without gangulys and tendulkars. stat proved dravid is doing equally good job in a short period of time.Same SL team was beat in india under dravid's captaincy 6-1 without ganguly in team. who told zahir khan to bowl to so many wide and loose balls in crucial matches? He abused sreesant ,If senior players are deliberatly irrospinsible why blaem captain many players do not want to sit in dressing even if out of form.. selection is influenced by some senior players. If sachin insisted agarkar If players had problem with chappell or dravid they should have approched the BCCI rather than calling shots from back stage. both ganguly and sachin are in race for captaincy now, defeat in WC is deliberate attempt to prove dravid not a good captain and ganguly's record as WC captain did not harm. Dravid gave 100 % commitment when he played under ganguly and sachin and he trusted senior players but ditched by superstars.. the odi winning diff is only 1% when compared dravid's succes ( not even 2yrs) with ganguly's success of 5 yrs. Even when ganguly was captain team lost in 1st WC during champions trophy in england 2004 team did win all matches under ganguly 's captaicny he had also many humiliated defeats agaisnt kiwis, aussies, pakistan, WI and team ind did not beat/win SA in SA that did not happened during ganguly's captaincy also under ganguly captaincy team ind played 9 traingular series only 2 won and 5 lost and 2 drawn and team played only in dlf cup and lost it under dravid's captaincy team had many humiliated defeat when ganguly was captain. Except Aus no other team has consistancy in winning. Overall, dravid is doing a better job as captain than ganguly and his batting did not afface by captaincy, while ganguly was non performing captain inlate 2-3 yrs of his captiancy. but survived b'cuz of dalmialys' influence.
RE:Dravid is the best
by Anindya on May 01, 2007 08:36 PM Permalink
Suman Bhat is sickheaded, she doesn't understand anything about cricket except Dravid. she has abused "each and every" cricketer in this forum except Dravid. I also don't like regional biasness or parochialism but this message (from suman Bhat) reveals how much narrow minded she is. I am a bengali (my name also suggest so) but i know that development of India can occur only when all states will work together not only bengal or karnataka or anything else. u may not know but the biggest fan club in kolkata was of Sachin tendulkar then Rahul Dravid then Saurav ganguly. yes believe it , I stay in kolkata and i know it is correct that saurav was rated third in fan numbers ( check out any bengali news channel) but sachin fan no. were way ahead of these 2. It is only after that chappel Dravid ganguly issue that made bengal sensitive for anything towards saurav (though sachin still maintains the biggest fan club in bengal), now those who were never ever involved with any kind of cricket says saurav shud be in the team ...injustice was done to him...and bla bla bla. And FYI i am also not a great fan of Saurav as much as I am of Sachin and of Dravid as a player. But I must say that Dravid is not as potent as saurav as a captain. may be it is motivation or skill or management or intelligence or agression or body language whatever it is (i don't know as i am not a cricket expert) but Dravid surely lacks something. This is not a dravid hate message or sachin saurav praise message, but look at it practically, after all we see the results and that also good results not failures.
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by Anindya on May 01, 2007 09:16 PM Permalink
success of a captain depends upon how he can take out the best from his players. captain can't sit in the dressing room thinking ....ok ,I scored a century doesn't matter what others do !! This not captaincy. when the team got devided into 14:1 what was he doing then, doesn't he know that this way is the last way a team can win ??? or he was more interested in his "yes sir" image ??? it is not about mumbaikars kannadas or bengalis. it's about India, Indians and Indian cricketers. U r an NRI , so i am guessing u must be an educated one, this kind of parochialism is not expected at least from the educated class .
thanks, i agree with Sharad there is too much parochialisnm and hatred in this forum, better i shud stay away from it. Bye.
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by Sharad Saxena on May 01, 2007 08:54 PM Permalink
Dear Anindya, I need not to confirm from anyone, I have couple of very good bengali friends and we discuss every issue without any bias!!!
I am worried about the declining standard of this forum thats why I use such hard words, how many have written a single message with the injustice with Mr Ranadev Bose, he is the top performer in domestic cricket and why he was not selected without any reason, He will be selected at 29 years of age and after 1 - 2 matches he will be shown the door that u r not competent enough to perform at international level....
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by Anindya on May 01, 2007 09:06 PM Permalink
I completely agree with u Sharad,
standards will only decline if u vomit hatred here !!! forget about ranadeb bose there are several players from many part of the states who have been deprived.being a bengali, I know ranadeb has been ignored that also wrongly, in the same regard I have seen both shibshankar and ranadeb bowling together, they as a pair is marvellous, and bengal's recent success is just based on these 2 players and tiwari and jhunjhunwala. but i don't know much about other states except a few, they too have some good players also. but as u know everybody cannot be included and i think Ranadeb's age is his biggest enemy now. But he can be the McGrath of India with his immaculate line & length, he just don't know how to bowl a "no ball" !! It just proves his discipline and effort. He is consistent and a proven player in each form of the game.
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by Suman Bhat on May 01, 2007 09:14 PM Permalink
Anindya BCCI has diff yardstick to select the palyers so also media read the some section of english media from kolkata even media is divided before the K'taka and WB ranji samis in Kolkata Venkay was K'tak team manager the 1st qs he was asked by bengali media " Is this war dravid vs ganguly???
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by Anindya on May 01, 2007 09:22 PM Permalink
look media has to sell their reports, u and I will buy them, and will argue about each other . what will happen, will our life change ?? no will anybody's life change ?? ans is no. this forum is there now u and i visit it at least 5 times a day, don't know about u but I do. so putting controversial news can increase viewers as well ad money. So , that is what they r doing here and everywhere , media blames somebody as well as hail somebody to sell it's news . see that line u still remember "Is this war dravid vs ganguly?? " that means u got the news, it is journalism which nothing but to make a fool of u and me.
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by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 10:10 AM Permalink
whatever ur suggestions keep it urself and pass it ganguly fans who posting some rubbish msgs. stat tell dravid is doing equally good job and he is leading team from only last 20 months. so whatever ganguly achieved in 5 yrs can not be achieved in less than 2 yers irrespective who is leadung team ganguly's success is b'cuz of hardwork/performance of sachin,dravid laxman, sewag, srinath. these players were in good form and gave their heart. But dravid did not get same support from these senior players this one whole country is talking about not only bangalorians. For ur kind info whole country watched how dravid and team humiliated during SA odi match in kolkata. but in ganguly played test in Blr against pakistan as if he was playing for pakistan in ind uniform. But nobody has insulted ganguly. u guys forgot dravid laxman historic innings against Ausses in kolkata, or dravid' 2 100s in on tests in Eden gardens. take out dravid's contributions for ganguly's success as captain, see the stat that ganguly will have average lower than sachins.. infact ganguly promoted players who were fitted in his group, laxman and kumble were thrown out odis b'cuz both were not fitted in ganguly's good books. Since ganguly had support of dlamaiy players were selected as per ganguly wish during ganguly's captaincy..
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by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 10:42 AM Permalink
whatever ur suggestions keep it urself and pass it ganguly fans who posting some rubbish msgs. stat tell dravid is doing equally good job and he is leading team from only last 20 months. so whatever ganguly achieved in 5 yrs can not be achieved in less than 2 yers irrespective who is leadung team ganguly's success is b'cuz of hardwork/performance of sachin,dravid laxman, sewag, srinath. these players were in good form and gave their heart. But dravid did not get same support from these senior players this one whole country is talking about not only bangalorians. For ur kind info whole country watched how dravid and team humiliated during SA odi match in kolkata. but in ganguly played test in Blr against pakistan as if he was playing for pakistan in ind uniform. But nobody has insulted ganguly. u guys forgot dravid laxman historic innings against Ausses in kolkata, or dravid' 2 100s in on tests in Eden gardens. take out dravid's contributions for ganguly's success as captain, see the stat that ganguly will have average lower than sachins.. infact ganguly promoted players who were fitted in his group, laxman and kumble were thrown out odis b'cuz both were not fitted in ganguly's good books. Since ganguly had support of dlamaiy players were selected as per ganguly wish during ganguly's captaincy..
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by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
sick headed whatever ur suggestions keep it urself and pass it ganguly fans who posting some rubbish msgs. stat tell dravid is doing equally good job and he is leading team from only last 20 months. so whatever ganguly achieved in 5 yrs can not be achieved in less than 2 yers irrespective who is leadung team ganguly's success is b'cuz of hardwork/performance of sachin,dravid laxman, sewag, srinath. these players were in good form and gave their heart. But dravid did not get same support from these senior players this one whole country is talking about not only bangalorians. For ur kind info whole country watched how dravid and team humiliated during SA odi match in kolkata. but in ganguly played test in Blr against pakistan as if he was playing for pakistan in ind uniform. But nobody has insulted ganguly. u guys forgot dravid laxman historic innings against Ausses in kolkata, or dravid' 2 100s in on tests in Eden gardens. take out dravid's contributions for ganguly's success as captain, see the stat that ganguly will have average lower than sachins.. infact ganguly promoted players who were fitted in his group, laxman and kumble were thrown out odis b'cuz both were not fitted in ganguly's good books. Since ganguly had support of dlamaiy players were selected as per ganguly wish during ganguly's captaincy..
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by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
ganguly fan . some ppl do not like to mention dada's dadagiri. they will start posting personal/ absuive msgs. everybody has freedom to post msgs but those who have no self resptct will post some rubbish Sinci i did not post this msg ask questions to ganguly fan indian/rahulnanda/AB/ facelessspirit/satydevgowda/anurag ria/us/indrnilgupta/anirudda don't how many names the person has I don't respond such personal/regional abusive msgs b'cuz it does not apply to me a bit By the grace of god , i have good life I am an NRI from Blr u might get more such msgs in coming days pls ask the qs to that person who realy impersonation my name If bangalis support ganguly, mubbaikar supprt sachin, delhites support sewag, punjabies support yuvraj, if bangalorans support dravid what is wrong with it How it comes biased. this is msg of person called who posted rubbish by mentioning jai karantak idli dosa !!!!!!!
If u want answer agaisnt my comments pls watch the recoreded coverge of 3 games u will realise who were responsible for WC debacle. I have never mention idli, dosa, karanktak or bangos etc... Also answerur questions first to urself whichever place u belong to good day Mrs suman
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by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
whatever ur suggestions keep it urself and pass it ganguly fans who posting some rubbish msgs. stat tell dravid is doing equally good job and he is leading team from only last 20 months. so whatever ganguly achieved in 5 yrs can not be achieved in less than 2 yers irrespective who is leadung team ganguly's success is b'cuz of hardwork/performance of sachin,dravid laxman, sewag, srinath. these players were in good form and gave their heart. But dravid did not get same support from these senior players this one whole country is talking about not only bangalorians. For ur kind info whole country watched how dravid and team humiliated during SA odi match in kolkata. but in ganguly played test in Blr against pakistan as if he was playing for pakistan in ind uniform. But nobody has insulted ganguly. u guys forgot dravid laxman historic innings against Ausses in kolkata, or dravid' 2 100s in on tests in Eden gardens. take out dravid's contributions for ganguly's success as captain, see the stat that ganguly will have average lower than sachins.. infact ganguly promoted players who were fitted in his group, laxman and kumble were thrown out odis b'cuz both were not fitted in ganguly's good books. Since ganguly had support of dlamaiy players were selected as per ganguly wish during ganguly's captaincy
RE:Dravid is the best
by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
dravid captaincy is good like ganguly's it is senior players did not support him druing WC read article in cricinfo By S rajesh see the analysis of batsman. it is not bolwers or captain batsman failed to deliver when team required. many players like ganguly, sachin harbajan, zahir undermine dravid's captaincy. ganguly batting only for self he socred runs consistantly but never tried to accelerate run rate or rotate strike always savinghis wkt if team win or loss did not matter he scored runs but he gave more runs to opposition b'cuz of poor fielding. cost team some more runs of poor running between wkt. and sachin being VC failed with bat. Body language of 2 ex captains in 3 matches as if they were playing a practice match. Harbajan never bolwed to his natural stength. b'cuz he thought his cpatian is ganguly but herbajan latest achievement is that he was informed by ICC twice by his wrong action. dhoni is failed in WI and SA he scored runs only in dead ptices of subcontinent. Dinesh karthck is better than dhoni he opened innings and won 20 -20 match in SA . can bat any no.... and since munaf was in playig XI, dravid couldnot play sreesant. After sachin's return from injury from during DLF cup onwards, sachin was doing bowling 6-8 overs regularly and there is no place for 5th bowler. Cheif selector insistied that shachin is also used as bowler. till the DLF cup team won many odis and test without gangulys and tendulkars. stat proved dravid is doing equally good job in a short period of time.Same SL team was beat in india under dravid's captaincy 6-1 without ganguly in team. who told zahir khan to bowl to so many wide and loose balls in crucial matches? He abused sreesant ,If senior players are deliberatly irrospinsible why blaem captain many players do not want to sit in dressing even if out of form.. selection is influenced by some senior players. If sachin insisted agarkar If players had problem with chappell or dravid they should have approched the BCCI rather than calling shots from back stage. both ganguly and sachin are in race for captaincy now, defeat in WC is deliberate attempt to prove dravid not a good captain and ganguly's record as WC captain did not harm. Dravid gave 100 % commitment when he played under ganguly and sachin and he trusted senior players but ditched by superstars.. the odi winning diff is only 1% when compared dravid's succes ( not even 2yrs) with ganguly's success of 5 yrs. Even when ganguly was captain team lost in 1st WC during champions trophy in england 2004 team did win all matches under ganguly 's captaicny he had also many humiliated defeats agaisnt kiwis, aussies, pakistan, WI and team ind did not beat/win SA in SA that did not happened during ganguly's captaincy also under ganguly captaincy team ind played 9 traingular series only 2 won and 5 lost and 2 drawn and team played only in dlf cup and lost it under dravid's captaincy team had many humiliated defeat when ganguly was captain. Except Aus no other team has consistancy in winning. Overall, dravid is doing a better job as captain than ganguly and his batting did not afface by captaincy, while ganguly was non performing captain inlate 2-3 yrs of his captiancy. but survived b'cuz of dalmialys' influence.
dravid captaincy is good like ganguly's it is senior players did not support him druing WC read article in cricinfo By S rajesh see the analysis of batsman. it is not bolwers or captain batsman failed to deliver when team required. many players like ganguly, sachin harbajan, zahir undermine dravid's captaincy. ganguly batting only for self he socred runs consistantly but never tried to accelerate run rate or rotate strike always savinghis wkt if team win or loss did not matter he scored runs but he gave more runs to opposition b'cuz of poor fielding. cost team some more runs of poor running between wkt. and sachin being VC failed with bat. Body language of 2 ex captains in 3 matches as if they were playing a practice match. Harbajan never bolwed to his natural stength. b'cuz he thought his cpatian is ganguly but herbajan latest achievement is that he was informed by ICC twice by his wrong action. dhoni is failed in WI and SA he scored runs only in dead ptices of subcontinent. Dinesh karthck is better than dhoni he opened innings and won 20 -20 match in SA . can bat any no.... and since munaf was in playig XI, dravid couldnot play sreesant. After sachin's return from injury from during DLF cup onwards, sachin was doing bowling 6-8 overs regularly and there is no place for 5th bowler. Cheif selector insistied that shachin is also used as bowler. till the DLF cup team won many odis and test without gangulys and tendulkars. stat proved dravid is doing equally good job in a short period of time.Same SL team was beat in india under dravid's captaincy 6-1 without ganguly in team. who told zahir khan to bowl to so many wide and loose balls in crucial matches? He abused sreesant ,If senior players are deliberatly irrospinsible why blaem captain many players do not want to sit in dressing even if out of form.. selection is influenced by some senior players. If sachin insisted agarkar If players had problem with chappell or dravid they should have approched the BCCI rather than calling shots from back stage. both ganguly and sachin are in race for captaincy now, defeat in WC is deliberate attempt to prove dravid not a good captain and ganguly's record as WC captain did not harm. Dravid gave 100 % commitment when he played under ganguly and sachin and he trusted senior players but ditched by superstars.. the odi winning diff is only 1% when compared dravid's succes ( not even 2yrs) with ganguly's success of 5 yrs. Even when ganguly was captain team lost in 1st WC during champions trophy in england 2004 team did win all matches under ganguly 's captaicny he had also many humiliated defeats agaisnt kiwis, aussies, pakistan, WI and team ind did not beat/win SA in SA that did not happened during ganguly's captaincy also under ganguly captaincy team ind played 9 traingular series only 2 won and 5 lost and 2 drawn and team played only in dlf cup and lost it under dravid's captaincy team had many humiliated defeat when ganguly was captain. Except Aus no other team has consistancy in winning. Overall, dravid is doing a better job as captain than ganguly and his batting did not afface by captaincy, while ganguly was non performing captain inlate 2-3 yrs of his captiancy. but survived b'cuz of dalmialys' influence.
