The quotes about Rama & Sita among others are taken from hate forums where bling islamic fanatics are crudely interpreting the vedic verses...
if they are quoting manusmriti/mahabharata/ramayana or any other... let them give the weblink if it is an online resource... or else tell me the name of the paperback copy and its author...
RE:The messages that have been posted here are misinterpretations.....
by Sesh on Mar 23, 2008 06:20 PM Permalink
the filthy messages posted here by islamic fanatics is taken from other forums like the pakistanidefenceforum... etc...
seems that there are no independent thinkers.... they are acting like a herd of sheep....
RE:The messages that have been posted here are misinterpretations.....
by tabraiz khan on Mar 23, 2008 06:23 PM Permalink
hurting religious sentiments is not good. Be a good follower of your religion, you will never hurt each other, as no religion preaches hatred.
RE:The messages that have been posted here are misinterpretations.....
by Sesh on Mar 23, 2008 06:24 PM Permalink
thanks tabraiz khan, i already know that... what is important here is for the muslim citizens of india to understand that....
RE:The messages that have been posted here are misinterpretations.....
by tabraiz khan on Mar 23, 2008 06:28 PM Permalink
Sesh if you think that Indian muslim citizens dont understand that then you have not discovered the muslims. Be positive you can find more than what you can imagine for a muslim cannot be a muslim unless he is a patriot.
RE:The messages that have been posted here are misinterpretations.....
by Sesh on Mar 23, 2008 06:32 PM Permalink
let the climate for discovering the muslim be created, by muslims themselves....
self-glorifying would not do...
this is simply the plain fact.... positiveness of the mind comes in when you have expectations... and past history has taught me well about converts...
RE:RE:The messages that have been posted here are misinterpretations.....
by tabraiz khan on Mar 23, 2008 06:40 PM Permalink
Let me know whom are you against -the muslims or the Islam. The muslims because they subjugated the Hindus in the past or Islam because muslims were followers of Islam. past conversions were to suit the political climate rather then religious but it came as a blessing in disguise for the converted people for it gave them a better life otherwise they would have reverted to their old faith after the fall of muslim rule but instead people are voluntarilty accepting Islam till this moment. Muslims have been targetted by its enemies since its existence right from first jehad till now. The onus of creating the environment lies on you not on us.
RE:The messages that have been posted here are misinterpretations.....
by tabraiz khan on Mar 23, 2008 07:01 PM Permalink
Sesh I follow this faith only because i have a rational approach. its a choice between good and bad, what one choses is its own wish but dont try to thrust your will on others. I'm not indulging in self glorification. raise the points which you feel is wrong in Islam, i'm here to answer
RE:The messages that have been posted here are misinterpretations.....
by Sesh on Mar 23, 2008 06:48 PM Permalink
i think you dont have a hold on the situation...
because you have been converted does not make your glorification valid...
it is not a question of taking stands... rather it is one whereby we understand the essence of life... now dont tell me that it is allah!!!!
now that you ask me to create the climate... answer me... what would happen if every muslim were to leave the archaic principles of islam ???
you have not risen above blind faith... rationalism is the key to it...
only by questioning the faith do you get the real answers...!!!
RE:The messages that have been posted here are misinterpretations.....
by Sesh on Mar 23, 2008 07:15 PM Permalink
tabraiz, the point is simple... converts are cowards of life... taking the shelter of the stronger, and in later years, to hype that they are followers of peace is completely wrong...
just as you said, islam is more of a political ideology rather than a spiritual one...
my point is not to start a verse to verse debate on islam... for perceptions differ... the average muslim mentality is seen as that of an agressive fanatic only...
to not acknowledge others beliefs is the fundamental reason why there is so much hatred in islam...
the hindu would go to a church to pray, as he believes that the spirit of worship is the virtue... can we ask that of a muslim??? beliefs are subjective... what is your belief may not be mine, and tolerance comes from understanding...
rational approaches can be found in any religion...!!!!
RE:The messages that have been posted here are misinterpretations.....
by tabraiz khan on Mar 23, 2008 07:30 PM Permalink
First of all Hindusim is not a religion but rather than a way of living if you are aware of. You call Indian muslims as cowards when the truth is that Hindus were subjugated beyond comprehension in the past by the muslims. not only that Hindus used to offer their daughters in marriage to muslims in order to appease them. Even the myth of rajput bravery was broken to pieces from time to time by the muslims. Second muslims dont go to church because they have firm belief in their faith, having one color but not changing colors from time to time.
