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Too bad.. people have stopped thinking... people have stopped being human..
by Binu on Mar 20, 2008 11:46 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

This law is the height of selfishness, cowardice and pure injustice. I'll explan how. Clauses in this law vehimently oppose conversion of SC/ST people. Why? Casteism is one of the core principles of Hinduism and many people are trapped all their life in this humiliating social structure right from birth. Casteism has deprived and enslaved people and this law basically prevents them from freedom or a better life. Isnt this selfishness? Conversions may open the door to a better life and education. Why do you want that door closed? Is it out of genuine love and concern for them? Why arent there people like Graham Steins in hinduism? Or why is there casteism at all? If you dont want the people to leave, why dont you atleast clean the pig sty? The ans is you need people to be there trapped for ever in the lower strata of society to serve you-selfishness.

Secondly, why are you upset/scared if people leave your faith? Does the strength of the "truth" you believe in depend on the number of people who believe in it? why cant you accept a person if he left your religion? Ok you neednt marry/give in marriage but cant you accept his/her existance in another faith? why?

In the name of this law many poor people are going to be framed and punished.. I dont know for what? too bad... :(

BTW, here is some food for thought. Evolution causes people to loose faith in God. Isnt that a "forced conversion" we go through in schools? Why isnt there a law banning that?

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by Ravindra on Mar 21, 2008 12:12 AM   Permalink
I think you are missing the point and unnecessarily dradding nowhere. The rule is agains forced(lure/ raw force/ money) conversion. Its its by will then no body can stop anyone, no law, no religion and no country.
In fact if you look a little more into depth its all about some gorup of ppl who want to increase their strength by money and other by force..Hope you are reading the lines correctly now..

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by Binu on Mar 21, 2008 12:26 AM   Permalink
I agree fully with you on one point. Conversion should not be by force. And in India its extremely difficult to force someone into believing something. I think that it would happen only in Islamic states.. and thankfully India isnt one.. Regarding conversion by money... DO you think those who switch faiths seeing money are sincere to either their former or latter beliefs? Arent they making their belly their God? Ok whatever... should there be a law preventing that?

"Every man should have all the freedom in the world to exchange his faith for a morsel of food if he wants it, and when he feels he doesnt need it any more, he should have all the freedom to exchange his new faith for something else... " This my friend is true religeous freedom... :)

So why jail the man who gave him money? Especially if the person concerned is satisfied?

If you love them so much, why dont you donate and try to retain him? Or better still make his life worth living? Or if he is bent on money which you dont have, why not leave him alone..


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by Binu on Mar 21, 2008 12:31 AM   Permalink
Dear Sanjay, you needn't :) But at the same time, you should be tolerant of people who believe. And by tolerant I mean, you should not do to them what you dont want others to do to you.. :)

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by Haramohan Ray on Mar 20, 2008 11:56 PM   Permalink
I am an atheist, but please don't abuse Jesus.

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by Binu on Mar 20, 2008 11:55 PM   Permalink
No problemo there with me dear Sanjay.. :) You needn't. I'm sooo accomodating and secular.. I'm not going to stab you with a thrishool or threaten you with a bomb.. LOL... To every man his beliefs.. and the right to let others know about it.. Its upto each individual to reject or move on.. Cheers!!

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by kartik balasubramanian on Mar 21, 2008 12:17 AM   Permalink
I think you need to study the complete law. The law is against the person who tries to do force conversion. Pls. read the bill properly before writing such comments.

The law is not only for SC/ST, it is for everyone.

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by Binu on Mar 21, 2008 12:40 AM   Permalink
@kartik, As per the news article above, the jail term and fine is double if the 'forcefully converted' person belongs to the SC/ST category.

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by ben hur on Mar 20, 2008 11:59 PM   Permalink
its not about ppl leaving their faith but abt ppl coerced to leave their faith. ppl r free to follow their belief but definitely shud nt b allowed to b converted at the gun point.

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