RE:@ Nanchil
by Nanchil on Jun 18, 2008 11:36 AM Permalink
There are so many reports about your 'swamis' of well-cultured hindu religion in newspaper everyday. There are some criminals among christians. Does it mean that they become criminals due to christianity? Apply your commonsense before anwering. Read manusmiriti and the history of Travancore you will understand hindu aggression.
RE:@ Nanchil
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 11:40 AM Permalink
Yes, all of them are doing brisk business in the name of "saving our souls"! Now don't say one is better than the other. I donot care for any such shady figures. Every one is naked in this bath.
RE:@ Nanchil
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 11:42 AM Permalink
Nanchil, what is the difference between "bowing down before stone pieces just like a savage" and worshipping the statue of a dead jew on a cross? Do you not worhsip the statues of Mother Mary, various Saints, etc? What you are doing is "pot calling kettle black"
RE:@ Nanchil
by Nanchil on Jun 18, 2008 11:48 AM Permalink
Stone pieces have no souls. It is an insult for humans, most intelligent creatures in the world to bow down before stone pieces. But Jesus is God who won death. Even if you do not believe Jesus as God, at least He is a man as per your way of thinking. FYI worshipping statues of Mary or any other person is prohibited in christianity and those who practice idol-worship are ignorants.
RE:RE:RE:@ Nanchil
by shaker on Jun 18, 2008 11:54 AM Permalink
Rightly said Nanchil, stone pieces do not have soul. Does the cross have soul. I respect Jesus and do not degrade him like what you do, it is in the head of the person who bows to whatever he thinks, the receiving diety is just an booster so who bows to what is that perticular persons business. But who talks about what is everybody business because there are traitors who till yesterday were with someone and today talk against the same someone when they felt that the grapes were sour.
RE:RE:RE:RE:@ Nanchil
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 12:04 PM Permalink
If you have read The Necessity of Atheism, you would not so brazenly support Christianity. Dr. Brooks had graphically described the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity and Islam in Europe, West Asia and other parts of the world.
RE:@ Nanchil
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 11:51 AM Permalink
Pl read "The Necessity of Atheism" by Dr. D.M. Brooks freely available at Project Gutenberg. Also read Gods, Demons and Spirits by world renowned rationalist Dr. A.T. Kovoor (hope you have heard about him). Pl don't try to sell your evangalism to us.
RE:RE:@ Nanchil
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 12:08 PM Permalink
They are all things of the past. Do you know that Slavery is justified in The Bible and The Quran? The salavery in US was more terrible than the caste system in India. Pl read "Uncle Toms Cabin" or the speech "I have a dream" by Martin Luther King Jr. You can get another book called "Diary of a Slave Girl" from Project Gutenberg.
RE:RE:@ Nanchil
by Nanchil on Jun 18, 2008 11:57 AM Permalink
I already read "The Necessity of Atheism". I did not find anything significant there except arrogance. Please do not try to sell your fake atheism here.
RE:RE:@ Nanchil
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 11:54 AM Permalink
Are you going to accept me as a non-hindu? Hinduism is not a religion in its narrow sense. It is a conglomeration of various beliefs and even atheism. Atheists existed even in Vedic era and were called "Charvakas". And I am not talking about "hindu" ulture but the culture of our Country. Indian sub-continent had a civilized life when most of the other continents were still in the stone age. So don't confuse "culture" with "religion"!
RE:@ Nanchil
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 11:47 AM Permalink
EXSISTANCE OF GOD??????? Which god are you talkig about? The jealous West Asian gods or the democratic gods of other religions?
RE:RE:@ Nanchil
by Nanchil on Jun 18, 2008 11:49 AM Permalink
JGN is a peculiar atheiest. He claims that he does not believe God. But he calls himself a hindu for he believes that hindu culture is great!!
RE:@ Nanchil
by shaker on Jun 18, 2008 11:48 AM Permalink
Exactly Nanchil, why did you convert to cristianity, agreed there whould have been atrocities it doesnt mean that all hindus are same like what you said. So why couldn't stick around and try to fight it out. Don't tell me that you like and hence changed, come on everyone knows how and why the so called converted people got converted.
RE:RE:@ Nanchil
by Nanchil on Jun 18, 2008 11:56 AM Permalink
I did not convert. My forefathers converted before 200 years mainly because - they were not allowed to enter hindu temples - their women were not allowed wear decent dresses (google and read 'mulakaram') - they have to maintain 12 feet distance with so-called uppercastes. - they were not allowed to get educated - they were not allowed to live in decent houses The above info. is not my imagination but is a history. If you want to know more read books on history of Travancore. Once converted to christianity, our forefathers and successors could live a decent life with self-respect and dignity because of efforts by missionaries. Still we are christians because - we have found that compared to other religions christianity is the best in the world. - we do not want to worship idols. - we do not want to believe in myths and superstitions. - we have nearly 100% literacy rate
RE:RE:RE:@ Nanchil
by shaker on Jun 18, 2008 12:15 PM Permalink
Mr. Nanchil I am also like you, does not like what you have written in the list, even my anscestors could have converted. Don't I live with respect and dignity now that is because my anscestors fought it out. Today I do not have a dogma who says that you are living with self respect and dignity, I know how some of your own community think of you all, even the anglo Indian do not want you at par with them. Gentle man there are problems every where but running away is not good. Even running away can be accept because if you cannot fight just scoot but then now you come and discuss things which you have no right.
RE:@ Nanchil
by Nanchil on Jun 18, 2008 12:25 PM Permalink
Whether you believe or not, now we are leading a very decent life which even the socalled uppercastes, oppressors once upon a time, are jealous of. We could achieve this only becasuse of christian missionaries.
RE:RE:RE:@ Nanchil
by JGN on Jun 18, 2008 12:04 PM Permalink
Mr. Nanchil, If you have read The Necessity of Atheism, you would not so brazenly support Christianity. Dr. Brooks had graphically described the atrocities committed in the name of Christianity and Islam in Europe, West Asia and other parts of the world.
RE:@ Nanchil
by shaker on Jun 18, 2008 12:08 PM Permalink
I understand all those, definitely to ommorrow when the cristian come up with something identical restriction by virtue of you being not original then will you convert and may be your predecessor post like this, man try and fight the system and not chicken out. Do not tell me we do not want this and that, tell we wanted money so they converted. is that not the truth. So that is why you love this religion
