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by True Indian on Jul 30, 2008 01:04 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

Some Hindu fanatics in these message boards are celebrating the killings of innocent lives. They are taking this opportunity to spread hatred towards Muslim community for their selfish motives. As a member of Muslim community I appeal my good Hindu brothers in this forum not to be mislead by them.

1.      We Muslims are against the killing of any innocent people and we know that our Religion is not calling us to attack or kill innocent people.
2.      Our community leaders have condemned the attacks whether it has come in all the media or not (I have read it in NDTV.com)
3.      Quran is not preaching us to attack or kill innocent people. Holy Quran is a huge text and one verse alone cannot be taken out and be interpreted with vested interests. I studied in a Madrassa in Kerala for 5 years and no one taught me to hate Hindus or others.
4.      Muslim extremism is a bye product of Hindu extremism in India. Vast majority of Muslim community is against extremism just like vast majority of Hindus are against Hindu extremists.
5.      As a member of Muslim community I feel that we have to take more initiatives inside the community to teach them about the great Muslim leaders this great county had in the past. They have proved that a good Muslim of course can be a good Indian.


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by iam indian on Jul 30, 2008 01:29 PM   Permalink
pls tell me
why muslim need personal law board?
why they need haj subsidy?
why they need minority status when hindus r not considered minorities any whre incliding j&k?jains,sikhs,parsis r real minorities but do they ask for special favours?
ur imams r talking abt special courts with sharia law.why?
why fanatics attacked taslima ?why no one protested?
why u need do study in madarsa and still want other universities to accept ur degrees why not main stream education?
why there r violent protest when its comes to ISLAM and not for other social cause?
wht is stand on kashmiri pandits?why no sicular party talking abt it?



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by Mahesh Rameshchandra Vyas on Jul 30, 2008 01:25 PM   Permalink
From ur ID it reflect that u have to prove that ur true INDIAN but for me only INDIAN is sufficient that is only diffrence between Muslim and HINDU, Hindus have only one country to live And Muslims have 60 country

Any HINDU or HINDU Org or pary not against Muslim or any other religion But they are for HINDU benifit,their upliftment, protection if this is for is extrimsim then we extrimist....

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by daniel thomas on Jul 30, 2008 01:50 PM   Permalink
Actually this is not a security failure. If it was a bomb made by RDX or some powerfull tool it would have been a security failure. But here the bombs were made by normal chemicals found commanly and some bolts etc., how can security keep tab on everyone who buys such chemicals and creates small crude bombs!! it is impossible!!., Just think., is it possible that someone will plant bombs at 50 places and noone else saw them??? many people saw it and ignored it!! Here only comman people can help., No police, no security., but the comman man dont take any resposiblity and put 100% blame on politicians, police intelligence., its time to get alert. report to the police any suspicious things we see or hear. keep our eyes and hears open. Next time you see somthing report!! instead of passing the blame take responsiblity!! instead of just showing off your patriotism and bashing other religion, show it by acting responsibly!!


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by Bhalchandra Gaonkar on Jul 30, 2008 01:21 PM   Permalink
Sir, you may be right or wrong only your conses will tell you. One thing is that when general election is nearing such type is happening. this is as per our great politicians wish. Why only we are blaming only particular community why you will not think it may be from power hungry politician. Our IB/police/CBI all are under slavery of politician and they are playing like this and innocent people are dying. It is my opinion and not sure. Be think yourself and come to the point.

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by SR on Jul 30, 2008 01:18 PM   Permalink
Muslim extremism is a by-product of Hindu extremism? Go as far back into history as you can. You will find only violence in Islamic history (whatever Quran or Prophet Mohammed has to say violence is Islam's main-stay.) The reason why Mughals were able to rule India is because they were extremists. They could oppress and suppress the gullible Hindus because they were extremists. Had that not been the case, they could have never been able to convert Hindus into Islam.

Contrary to this, Hindu extremism (whatever small proportions it has) is a much recent development and is a reaction to Islamic extremism and that too because the government is indulging in pacification of Islamic extremists.

In spite of your best efforts at using sugar-coated language, point no. 4 gave away your bent of mind.

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by SSP on Jul 30, 2008 01:12 PM   Permalink
just answer one question. when and how will the terrorists stop any further violance.

everything else is just fine as long as you just talk about it.

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by gagan malik on Jul 30, 2008 01:12 PM   Permalink
i am with you. lets disown and fight terrorism and fanatism together.AAm aadmi has lots of things to worry about like family and job. No time for hatered. Only when he gets instigated by rhetoric , he responds. Definately this debate and widely held belief that koran supports voilence needs to be answered and debated. Muslims will have to come out with there voice and not let these terrorist becvome their spokes people.
Naxals are not muslims. Bodos ULFA are not muslims . Khalistanis wre not muslims.

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by PKN on Jul 30, 2008 01:32 PM   Permalink
True Indian,
I will question your rationale though I will not question you sincerity.
1. Yes I agree, but the moot question is who is an 'innocent' person? I believe that the Quran is not clear enough on that and this provides the loop holes that terrorist’s misuse
2. Again define "community leaders”. I saw a lot of community leaders vociferously protesting about Sorabuddin case! I don’t see those community leaders today. Do the Muslims have two sets of community leaders - one for protesting against atrocities on Muslims and another for condemning terror strikes? Ex: Javed Saab, Shabana Azmi, Teesta Setalvad
3. I will agree cent percent that the Quran is not a hate manual. But I will also state that verses have been taken out of context by Islamic extremist to justify their deeds that the Quran does not sanction.
4. Chick or Egg. If you speak of Naroda Patiya some one will talk of Marad? But every Muslim in this country should ask them if they have been treated better than the Hindus in Pakistan or Bangladesh. In sixty years we have have Muslim Presidents, CJIs, and CMs etc. The Mullahs in Pakistan objected to having a Hindu as the CJP for 30 days! Chick or egg Kuttukara?
5. Yes I am a Hindu but I think Muslims have contributed hugely to this country! But I will not accept that Muslim Terrorism should be condoned. If I did thousands who lost theist life in Terror would curse me!


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by sss on Jul 30, 2008 01:07 PM   Permalink
Nothing short of revenge ....
Jai Hind

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by Shailendra Sharma on Jul 30, 2008 01:11 PM   Permalink
Hindus are never caught with a AK-47 or RDX..

So how are they extremist??

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by james on Jul 30, 2008 01:13 PM   Permalink
Sorry Shailendra, i think you forgot "Sanjay Dutt"

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by Shailendra Sharma on Jul 30, 2008 01:16 PM   Permalink
that was never used by Sanjay as per records...

Also his intention was not to sabotage a Muslim area....

It is his psych that he loved weapons and he paid for it.

He never got any training in Pakistan or Bangladesh..



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by daniel thomas on Jul 30, 2008 01:48 PM   Permalink
What we need to understand is just becoz bombs are planted by muslims all muslims are not terrosist., 99% of muslims are peace loving, they have families, they send children to school, they go to work, their wives do their household work etc., they are not concerned with these bomb blasts., these are only 1% of those people. it is totally wrong to club muslims as terorists even if many blasts are made by muslims., this is because these are only 1% of muslims.

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by kayan on Jul 30, 2008 01:34 PM   Permalink
sorry james
sanjay dutt is half muslim and half hindu

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by SSP on Jul 30, 2008 01:19 PM   Permalink
he is hindu only when he is about to go to jail. rest of the time he is not.

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by iam indian on Jul 30, 2008 01:33 PM   Permalink
tell me one ISLAMIC nation whre minorities hve equal rights let alone special previlages.
wht was the hindu population in pak and baglad.
during partition and wht it is now?
on the contrary wht is the same status in india?
fact is poeple here r more tolerant than any other islamic nation.

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by True Indian on Jul 30, 2008 05:11 PM   Permalink
POTA is revoked due to misuse of the same by BJP. So your party has to answer for that ant Muslims. We have no problems capturing the real culprits. Muslims community is not against POTA but we are against misuse of POTA.

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by Varghese Baby on Jul 30, 2008 01:09 PM   Permalink
If u think all our problm will solve once afsal hanged. Then why should this NDA released Mazood to Kandahar.

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by Shailendra Sharma on Jul 30, 2008 01:13 PM   Permalink
Tomorrow u may say release all terrorists from Jails......

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by Narendra Modi on Jul 30, 2008 01:08 PM   Permalink
Because then some deranged people get an easy tool to convict innocent muslims just coz their name is muslim

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